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Governor Perry Vows Texas Will Pass Ban on Late-Term Abortions
life news ^ | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 07/07/2013 5:20:04 PM PDT by Morgana

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1 posted on 07/07/2013 5:20:04 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Important days are tomorrow, tuesday and wednesday. I will be there Monday for certain. I may be there Tuesday and Wednesday depending on how things go.

If you are interested in going to the Capitol, send me an email and I’ll help you get in touch with folks.


2 posted on 07/07/2013 5:25:04 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Morgana

If I was in the Texas legislature, I would vote “nay.”

The bill is immoral and unconstitutional.


3 posted on 07/07/2013 5:26:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Party - 'We're partisans only for principle.' www.SelfGovernment.US)
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To: Morgana

“Late Term Abortion” = Killing the child with only its head sticking into the mother’s vagina. Baby killers view this as abortion simply because the entire head of the child hasn’t been seen. There is no medical reason whatsoever that necessitates killing children like this. None.


4 posted on 07/07/2013 5:33:30 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: EternalVigilance

“The bill is immoral and unconstitutional.”

Care to explain how it is immoral and unconstitutional?


5 posted on 07/07/2013 5:34:26 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Morgana

Go Texas!


6 posted on 07/07/2013 5:35:36 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: EternalVigilance
The bill is immoral and unconstitutional.

Like CodeToad said, please explain how preventing the murder of a child is "immoral".

7 posted on 07/07/2013 5:50:39 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Prayers up for you and ALL who are speaking up for the unborn.


8 posted on 07/07/2013 5:52:43 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: CodeToad

Sure. Though I probably don’t have time to cover all the ways.

First, it fails the Fourteenth Amendment equal protection test.

“No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

The bill uses an arbitrary, capricious “pain” test, without ever explaining any logic for such a test being in any way pertinent. I call this the “don’t worry they won’t feel a thing” codification of permission to kill little babies. One must wonder if, to be consistent, they’re going to “legalize” killing paraplegics. After all, they won’t feel a thing! Or, if you give Grandma enough morphine, is it alright to do away with her? Won’t feel a thing! In any case, personhood is the only legitimate moral and constitutional criteria, not pain nor age.

This legislation actually serves to create a new class of subhumans. Those who they claim can’t feel pain.

And the bill would be piling bad code on top of already bad Texas code.

Ten years ago in Sept., in the wake of the Lacey Peterson murder in CA, Rick Perry and the Republican legislature passed a bill that rightfully recognized the obvious personhood of the child in the womb, which is line with our nation’s core principles and the imperative equal protection demand of our Constitution. Sadly, though, they included another paragraph that provided explicit permission for abortionists to kill innocent little persons.

Folks forget that it was Texas lawmakers, and their failure prior to 1973 to explicitly provide equal protection for the unborn that opened the door to Roe vs. Wade.

They’re continuing in the horrible tradition, sadly.

If they really care about ending abortion, it’s very simple. Provide equal protection for all persons. Simply strip out the 2003 language that gives “legal” permission to kill babies. Since they also recognized the individual personhood of the child in the womb at the same time, in the code, abortion will then be illegal everywhere in Texas, as it should be.


9 posted on 07/07/2013 6:06:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Party - 'We're partisans only for principle.' www.SelfGovernment.US)
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To: jeffc
Like CodeToad said, please explain how preventing the murder of a child is "immoral".

It doesn't protect a single child. It simply says 'kill 'em on schedule,' or, failing that, get the mass murdering abortionist, or the person hiring them, to lie.

And in exchange for no protection, you get to sacrifice the laws of nature and nature's God, the principles of the Declaration of Independence, all of the clauses of the stated purposes of the Constitution, and the explicit equal protections of the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments.

What a deal.

How would you like it if YOUR rights were "protected" in this way? How about a law that says it's okay to kill "jeffc" as long as you do it by Sept.? Would that be just, or legitimate, or moral, or constitutional?

10 posted on 07/07/2013 6:11:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Party - 'We're partisans only for principle.' www.SelfGovernment.US)
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To: EternalVigilance

“This legislation actually serves to create a new class of subhumans. Those who they claim can’t feel pain.”

Gotta agree there.

Why is Perry pushing so hard to get this? I was under the impression it at least banned late term abortions by banning anything past 20 weeks. Not enough for me, but it’s a start.


11 posted on 07/07/2013 6:13:25 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: CodeToad

The bill also promises to nullify itself, once its restrictions are found to impose an “undue burden” or “substantial obstacle” in the way of ANY pregnant woman in her ability to have an abortion.

In effect, the bill pledges to enable every woman to have an abortion.

This is just more phony NRTL theater. And very bad “law.”


12 posted on 07/07/2013 6:16:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Party - 'We're partisans only for principle.' www.SelfGovernment.US)
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To: EternalVigilance

P.S. I agree with your ENTIRE post. Well said.


13 posted on 07/07/2013 6:16:27 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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Why is Perry pushing so hard to get this?

Because NRTL was meeting in Texas, and he needed to grandstand.

14 posted on 07/07/2013 6:17:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Party - 'We're partisans only for principle.' www.SelfGovernment.US)
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To: EternalVigilance

probably designed to be struck down in court


15 posted on 07/07/2013 6:19:18 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: EternalVigilance

?


16 posted on 07/07/2013 6:19:54 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: EternalVigilance

Perry gets a F- for this one. This isn’t supporting children and banning abortion. This is nothing but a sneak attack on further pro-abortion legislation.

I have often asked people, “Why do YOU, personally, need to have abortions? Why? What need is it of yours to kill your baby?” Never a response. They tend to look away in shame.


17 posted on 07/07/2013 6:20:29 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: EternalVigilance

you mean its unnecessarily bloated with pap?

I can buy that


18 posted on 07/07/2013 6:22:30 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: JCBreckenridge

I messaged you and didn’t hear back.


19 posted on 07/07/2013 6:28:00 PM PDT by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: CodeToad

It’s an incremental process. The same way we got to where we are today.

The first step is getting laws on the books that recognize arbitrary termination of a pregnancy is wrong, even if it is at 20 weeks. Then you move on to the next step.

Going after the whole pie hasn’t worked; this time the activists are trying the “one piece at a time” approach.

After 40 years of setbacks, the pro-life movement needs some wins, no matter how small they may seem.

IMO.


20 posted on 07/07/2013 6:28:31 PM PDT by Bratch
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