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Will Egypt Save Itself From Total Collapse by Going to War With Israel?
Tablet ^ | July 3,2013 | Lee Smith

Posted on 07/03/2013 1:58:15 PM PDT by Hojczyk

The Egyptian army has only one card left to play. Western journalists and other true believers in the promise of the Arab Spring may be shocked by the suggestion that Egypt may be headed to war with Israel in the not-too-distant future. But as the country implodes, war has become the easy way out. It doesn’t matter that the Egyptian army doesn’t want another catastrophic contest with Israel—neither did Anwar Sadat 40 years ago when he saved Egypt by going to war with Israel, which in turn helped him acquire the superpower patronage of the United States.

So, here are the facts that Egyptians and Western reporters alike would rather not face: There is simply no way that today’s Egypt can feed its own people, or fuel the tractors that harvest its crops—let alone attract tens of billions of dollars in foreign investment to grow a hi-tech miracle along the banks of the Nile. That’s fantasyland stuff—like the fantasy of an American-style constitutional democracy run by the Muslim Brotherhood and guaranteed by the Egyptian army.

So, what’s left? A short war today—precipitated by a border incident in Sinai, or a missile gone awry in the Gaza Strip, and concluded before the military runs out of the ammunition that Washington will surely not resupply—will reunify the country and earn Egypt money from an international community eager to broker peace. Taking up arms against Israel will also return Egypt to its former place of prominence in an Arab world that is adrift in a sea of blood. But even more important is the fact that there is no other plausible way out: Sacrificing thousands of her sons on the altar of war is the only way to save Mother Egypt from herself.

(Excerpt) Read more at tabletmag.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; israel; kenyanbornmuzzie; russia; saudiarabia; waronterror

1 posted on 07/03/2013 1:58:15 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

I am open to placing a bet against this.


2 posted on 07/03/2013 2:00:35 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Hojczyk

I think the chances of that would be much greater
with Morsi and the MB still in power.
They would not have a problem using that to keep
themselves in power.


4 posted on 07/03/2013 2:01:36 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: spetznaz

I’m with you.


5 posted on 07/03/2013 2:01:49 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: Hojczyk

With the military in charge, there will be no war with Israel.


6 posted on 07/03/2013 2:02:13 PM PDT by kabar
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To: spetznaz

Reads like ‘The Mouse That Roared’; without Peter Sellers.


7 posted on 07/03/2013 2:03:11 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: Hojczyk

Not gonna happen, the conditions are FAR different today.

No Super-power benefactor (other than Obama).
No Arab League support and financial backing.
Syria not in any shape to be an ally.

Aside from Iran, this may be the safest period in Israel’s history coming.


8 posted on 07/03/2013 2:04:02 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Hojczyk

No. Egypt’s army does not exist for the destruction of Israel. Right now it is at war with the muslim brotherhood, in fact.


9 posted on 07/03/2013 2:05:31 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: spetznaz

Baloney


10 posted on 07/03/2013 2:06:00 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: Hojczyk

Egypt could feed itself if it could get God to heal it’s land.

It seems to me that they are rejecting the values of the Muslim Brotherhood and that’s a small step in the right direction.


11 posted on 07/03/2013 2:06:12 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: spetznaz

I believe that’s why the MB had to get rid of Mubarak. He WOULDN’T start a war with Israel.


12 posted on 07/03/2013 2:06:31 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: tcrlaf

Are you kidding me? There will be a major war against Israel in 2014. Bet on it.


13 posted on 07/03/2013 2:07:01 PM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones)
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To: Hojczyk

I’m not buying it. Morsi might have made that play but he didn’t. The Army has nothing to gain from it. The coup seems to be going well, they just need to install a government. If the brotherhood starts something serious, it would be easier to crack their heads than to mess with Israel.


14 posted on 07/03/2013 2:08:45 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: DHerion

” Reads like ‘The Mouse That Roared’; without Peter Sellers.”

Duchy of Fenwick for 200, Alex.


15 posted on 07/03/2013 2:08:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: Southack
I'm actually quite surprised that the Military had enough officers left over after Morsi’s cleanse to pull this off.

Pleasantly surprised.

Obama must be pissed!

16 posted on 07/03/2013 2:08:53 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Thy Kingdom come!)
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To: Sheapdog

Egypt has much more to work on in their country at this point.
They do not want War with any one.
I would feel they would like to live in peace. And become the free nation they deserve.


17 posted on 07/03/2013 2:11:11 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Sheapdog

Not a chance. Bookmark your post and enjoy being wrong in a year.


18 posted on 07/03/2013 2:11:32 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Hojczyk

Its still a muslim country and I haven’t forgotten that fact.

Looks like I was right about Mohammad ElBaredai running out there to get at the head of the line.


19 posted on 07/03/2013 2:11:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hojczyk

nyet


20 posted on 07/03/2013 2:12:58 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: kabar

I agree.


21 posted on 07/03/2013 2:13:34 PM PDT by Boxsford (God Is.)
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To: Hojczyk

No. Egyptians want their economy back, War would further crush tourism.


22 posted on 07/03/2013 2:13:41 PM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Dogbert41

0bama and the CIA lost this round, but the U.S. and Egypt won.


23 posted on 07/03/2013 2:13:48 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Hojczyk

What a stupid question

What a stupid questioner

Journo malpractice


24 posted on 07/03/2013 2:14:46 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: Dogbert41

Indeed. Seriously pissed.


25 posted on 07/03/2013 2:14:56 PM PDT by Boxsford (God Is.)
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To: Southack

how is the CIA a loser.

those in the know were arare of this outcome from the beginning

The CIA pros certainly knew


26 posted on 07/03/2013 2:17:19 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: bert

This is a big crock. Maybe the author is HOPING this would happen.


27 posted on 07/03/2013 2:24:33 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: flaglady47

A lot of folks have enormous interest in keeping the ME perpetually aflame.


28 posted on 07/03/2013 2:30:26 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: Hojczyk

Go for it.

Throughout history, numerous Egyptian armies have successfully ventured outside their boundaries, capturing land and wealth, and have created vast empires. History is on their side.

1967, for example.


29 posted on 07/03/2013 2:32:18 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Hojczyk
Under the MB yes, under the military, no.

Egyptian and Israeli military understand each other very well.

The Egyptian military looks at the Aswan dam and thinks of how easy it would be to turn it into dust. Israel looks and thinks of the same thing.

The MB is crazy and thinks that would be a small price to pay to kill some Jews.

The Egyptian military thinks about how that would wipe many of their families out.

They reach over and firmly remove the MB from power.

30 posted on 07/03/2013 2:35:14 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: Sheapdog

maybe by ooooooohbama?


31 posted on 07/03/2013 2:37:40 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Hojczyk

No. Besides Israel can hand Egypt its rear-end.


32 posted on 07/03/2013 2:38:28 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Beat me to it. Aswan Dam is Egypt’s self-destruct button, and I guaran-*bleep*ing-tee you that Israel knows how to push.


33 posted on 07/03/2013 2:40:17 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Dogbert41

“I’m actually quite surprised that the Military had enough officers left over after Morsi’s cleanse to pull this off.”

Hopefully many will be reinstated?

Ironic, Gen. Abdel Fattah Al Sisi was appointed by Morsi.


34 posted on 07/03/2013 2:46:50 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: bert

Morsi looks like he is CIA, and the CIA supported putting him into power and using him to aid their fight against Assad in Syria...so the CIA lost.


35 posted on 07/03/2013 2:50:45 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: tcrlaf

One bunkerbuster bomb in the face of the Aswan dam and you would flush the toilet of Egypt out to sea.

Not going to happen.


36 posted on 07/03/2013 2:52:22 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Dogbert41

The Egyptian military is a competant and profesional force. We trained them and supplied much of their harware. Yes they still have and operate alot of the equipment the Soviets gave them, but they are no longer that army. I spent time with Egyptian soldiers when I was in the Marine Corps. Many of their guys join the military for the same reasons our guys do. It didn’t suprise me to see the generals do the right thing both times. I do believe that they will not allow the MB anywhere near the new elections. They learned a lesson from the last time. I think Egypt will turn the corner and become a decent peacefull country.


37 posted on 07/03/2013 2:56:27 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Hojczyk
Amazing that some people live under a rock and can get nonsense like this published...

Morsi is out because war with Israel was his real aim...as a MB ideologue

The Egyptian army does not want to engage the Jewish state...

38 posted on 07/03/2013 2:58:02 PM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
You never want to engage a small force with powerful weapons.

They will use them early and often as they do not have that many people to lose.

39 posted on 07/03/2013 3:09:50 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Amen!


40 posted on 07/03/2013 3:18:31 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Hojczyk

No - the Egyptian military owes its existence to the US military - if they go after Israel they will be cutting their own throat.


41 posted on 07/03/2013 3:38:47 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Hojczyk
I've had the opportunity to participate in several joint exercises (Bright Star) with the Egyptian military and I've found the NCO and Officers in general agreement that the rest of the Arab world can go screw themselves. The Egyptian military, in my opinion, is motivated by concern for their country. I don't see them willingly going to war with anybody right now, except for Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood.
42 posted on 07/03/2013 3:56:03 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Hojczyk

It seems like that sycophant speech of Obama in Egypt in 2008 did not impress the Egyptian people one bit. The only people the faker in chief was able to fool was half the American public.


43 posted on 07/04/2013 2:06:51 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

This is your basic transparent piece of agitprop a.k.a. BS.

The Islamofascist regime just removed by the army was talking about abrogating the peace treaty and getting Egyptians ready to go to war with Israel for over two years (i.e., before Mubarak was removed).

Thanks Hojczyk.


44 posted on 07/04/2013 10:20:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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