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Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.0
Various sources | Wednesday, July 3, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/03/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by kristinn

The Egyptian army has set a deadline of 4 p.m. Cairo time for the Muslim Brotherhood government of President Morsi to compromise with the people of Egypt (by stepping down.) Morsi refuses. 18 people were killed and 200 were wounded in clashes at Cairo University last night.

A Washington Post report from Cairo on dueling statements from Morsi and the army:

Waving his hands and shaking his fists in a 45-minute speech on national television late Tuesday, Morsi swore that he was committed to the democratic process that brought him to power and said that any attempts to subvert the constitution were “unacceptable.”

The army, in turn, posted a message to its Facebook page saying: “We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.”

In his speech, Morsi acknowledged that he had made mistakes during his year in office as Egypt’s first democratically elected president. But he appealed to Egyptians to give him more time to deal with the country’s problems.

Link to originial FR thread from Friday with many amazing photos.


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1 posted on 07/03/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: melancholy; caww; maggief; hoosiermama; Irenic; MestaMachine

Time for a new live thread.


2 posted on 07/03/2013 5:58:27 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: kristinn
that he was committed to the democratic process that brought him to power

Just how clean was that election? As clean as, say, Obama's?

3 posted on 07/03/2013 6:00:45 AM PDT by maryz
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To: kristinn

1335: Reports say the army has taken control of the state television building ahead of its expected statement.


4 posted on 07/03/2013 6:01:02 AM PDT by McGruff (I need a new party.)
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To: McGruff

GO Egypt, GO!


5 posted on 07/03/2013 6:03:12 AM PDT by bergmeid (I told you so - now pass the ammo.)
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To: kristinn
“We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.”

'nuff said. Looks like either Morsi backs down by 4 PM, or he is going to go the way of Hussein and Gadhafi.

And oooh, won't Obama's foreign policy be getting the come uppance it deserves.

If the military follows through with the plan thye announced yesterday, then Egypt will be far better off, and so will the entire region.

6 posted on 07/03/2013 6:03:12 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: kristinn

Can we still send them more F-16s? What are friends for?

(sarcam tag off/ for the sarcasm impaired)


7 posted on 07/03/2013 6:03:52 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: kristinn

Opposition Live Feed, pictures good, hard to understand unless you speak Egyptian. They even run Ad’s for Snickers LOL

http://newsblogged.com/live-streaming-video-protests-cairo-egypt-tahrir-square


8 posted on 07/03/2013 6:06:13 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: kristinn

Egypt: Army In Control Of TV Headquarters, Sources Say
July 3, 2013 | 1239 GMT
The Egyptian TV headquarters is under the control of the army and Republican Guards, sources said July 3, Al Arabiya reported


9 posted on 07/03/2013 6:07:15 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink

Egypt: Military Sources Deny Army Chief, Opposition Leader Meeting
July 3, 2013 | 1257 GMT
Egyptian military sources denied a meeting between opposition leader Mohamed ElBaradei and army chief Gen. Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, Al Arabiya reported July 3


10 posted on 07/03/2013 6:08:52 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: kristinn

Obama will be causing trouble behind the scene. He is backing Morsi and doing all he can to stop the Egyptian military from other reports posted on FR. If the military removes Morsi, Obama will try to destabilize the interim government and get the Muslim Brotherhood and the Salifists back in power IMO. He has consistently backed the radical transnational Islamists in each of these Middle East confrontations.


11 posted on 07/03/2013 6:09:26 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Jeff Head
Where is Hillary???

Press typically giving her a pass on her roll in this mess.

12 posted on 07/03/2013 6:09:26 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: crosslink

Anti-Obama banners and signs and no media coverage? I’m shocked!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-02/guest-post-egyptians-love-us-our-freedom

No anti-obama signs to be found in CNN photo gallery
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/29/middleeast/gallery/egypt-protest/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


13 posted on 07/03/2013 6:09:52 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: kristinn

Barack didn’t hesitate to demand that Mubarak leave. Mubarak was a “bad” dictator - pro-Western, pro-U.S., at peace with Israel. Islamists are “good” dictators.


14 posted on 07/03/2013 6:10:06 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: kristinn
I think this is the ultimate insult in their culture.


15 posted on 07/03/2013 6:10:08 AM PDT by McGruff (I need a new party.)
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To: TigersEye; penelopesire; ConservativeMan55; AllAmericanGirl44; Nachum; Jet Jaguar; onyx

Ping


16 posted on 07/03/2013 6:10:25 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: maryz
As clean as, say, Obama's?

No.

Much cleaner than Øbama's.

17 posted on 07/03/2013 6:11:59 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Clinton has a solid record of INcompetence. Her only qualification for office is that she is a woman, which counts for something among the addled leftists who support her.


18 posted on 07/03/2013 6:13:09 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: crosslink

I read you last post to me. Thanks so much. Now, than so much for the link!


19 posted on 07/03/2013 6:13:52 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: kristinn
The Egyptian army has set a deadline of 4 p.m. Cairo time

It is now 3:14pm Cairo time. We will see what happens in an hour.

20 posted on 07/03/2013 6:14:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: kristinn

I’m here. Praying for the Egyptian army to put a stake through the heart of the Muslim Brotherhood and their plans to resurrect the caliphate. Praying for peace for our Coptic bretheren.


21 posted on 07/03/2013 6:15:27 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: kristinn
“We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.”

Lets see, Morsi is the terrorist, is Obama the radical of the fool? Or both?

22 posted on 07/03/2013 6:15:49 AM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: popdonnelly

Conservatives must bring Hillary’s name into the discussion when analyzing Obie’s foreign policy failures.


23 posted on 07/03/2013 6:15:53 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: JPX2011

I’m totally lost here. The people want Morsi out. Why? To replace with who? These people want an Islamic country like Iran...They are surely anti-USA.

Boy o boy...Talk about our status in the world under Bush...people spit at us. No one fears us or respects us...


24 posted on 07/03/2013 6:18:42 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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To: JPX2011
The Egyptian Army will be that bold? Do you know how many radical MB members serve in the Egyptian Army? Lots. Maybe that is one of the reasons the Egyptians asked for and got permission from the Israelis to move APCs and tanks snugly up against the Israeli border at Gaza expecting the worst.

The Copts should cross the border into Israel where they will be free to pray in their churches...

25 posted on 07/03/2013 6:18:45 AM PDT by Netz
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To: kristinn

Forty-five minutes to go. i hope the Army knows where Morsi is.


26 posted on 07/03/2013 6:19:07 AM PDT by bergmeid (I told you so - now pass the ammo.)
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To: kristinn

Thanks, kristinn.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2013/06/30/Live-from-Egypt-latest-developments-.html

1:00 pm Military sources deny that opposition leader ElBaradei met with the military.

12:41 pm Egypt Muslim Brotherhood political party refused invitation to meet army commander: military sources

12:39 pm Army armored vehicles guard Egypt state TV building, staff not working on live productions have left

12:33pm Egyptian president’s spokesman says better for Mursi to die in defense of democracy than be blamed by history-statement

12:15pm Egyptian hardline Islamist group al-Gamaa al-Islamiya calls on supporters to remain peaceful - statement

12: 10pm Egyptian interior ministry says it will defend all forms of violence “side by side” with the army.

12:03pm Military sources say the defense minister is meeting with representative from Brotherhood and Salafist parties

11:47 am Military sources: ElBaradei, Al Azhar Sheikh and the Egyptian Pope are at the meeting with the military defense

11:30 am Military chiefs will release a statement after 4.30pm (local time) - 12:30pm GMT

11:14 am Egyptian opposition groups say ElBaradei is meeting with the defense minister now

10: 50 am Egypt’s ‘Tamarod’ says Mursi’s speech is an example that ‘he cannot claim responsibility.’

10: 50 am Egypt’s ‘Tamarod’ says Mursi must be arrested immediately on charges of calling for civil war.

10:26 am Egypt’s hardline al-Gamaa al-Islamiya denies it called on Mursi to hold early presidential elections.

10:14 am Senior military commanders were in emergency talks after Egypt’s Mursi rejected their ultimatum to resolve the current crisis


27 posted on 07/03/2013 6:19:49 AM PDT by maggief
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To: bergmeid

So you’re rooting for the Egyptian Army? OK, that’s cool as long as they maintain their sanity.

I am sure that Barry has told them not to topple Morsi. It would be against his personal, oops I mean, US interests...


28 posted on 07/03/2013 6:20:25 AM PDT by Netz
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To: maryz

Good morning y’all. Thanks for the new thread and ping, kristinn.

God be with those in Egypt that are seeking freedom from tyranny. Prayers up.


29 posted on 07/03/2013 6:21:19 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: nikos1121

Replaced by a group of Egyptian Army generals.
They know on which side their bread is buttered...


30 posted on 07/03/2013 6:21:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: All

Previous thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3036920/posts


31 posted on 07/03/2013 6:22:31 AM PDT by maggief
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To: nikos1121

My understanding is that the people’s desire for an MB islamist government has waned. I think there is an economic component as well vis a vis tourist dollars. Replaced by whom? I don’t know. But I suspect another Mubarak-like strongman.

Obama destroyed 40 years of foreign policy achievements we had with the Egyptians.


32 posted on 07/03/2013 6:24:38 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: kristinn

kristinn, are you going to lock the previous live thread?


33 posted on 07/03/2013 6:25:32 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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Is that with or without camel dung stuck to the soles? The worst part of this insult is to the insulters. Imagine removing your filthy sandal from your filthy foot and placing it on the filthy Cairo street pavement! Nasty filth everywhere...hey wait, I forgot, we're in Egypt...OK
34 posted on 07/03/2013 6:26:44 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Netz

Well according to their “leaked” roadmap the Army is talking about tossing out the entire leadership, disbanding the parliament and suspending the new consitution and scheduling presidential elections, so I think they’re serious.

Unless there is some sort of last-minute deal struck with less hardline islamist elements. But I’m just speculating.


35 posted on 07/03/2013 6:27:53 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011
I think the people of Egypt want the Muslim Brotherhood out. If the MB gains control they will destroy the pyramids and Egypt's history. That's where the tourist dollars are.
36 posted on 07/03/2013 6:28:30 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Hurry Jesus!!!!!)
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To: kristinn

You have nothing to worry about Ambassador Stevens...er...President Morsi.

Pray for America to Wake Up


37 posted on 07/03/2013 6:29:07 AM PDT by bray (Stop tolerating beheading!)
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To: Truth29
Egypt Obama photo 130701-obama-egypt-003.jpg..........This is what they think of our beloved Zero
38 posted on 07/03/2013 6:31:10 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: kristinn; maggief; caww; All

Bout time for the army to go into action. Caww and Maggie have documented it all .... Day and night from the beginning on the initial thread Kristinn posted in the body of this thread


39 posted on 07/03/2013 6:31:11 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Truth29

But it’s pretty obvious that the Egyptian military is coordinating with the Israeli military, so I don’t think they much give a damn what obama thinks about anything.


40 posted on 07/03/2013 6:32:09 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Jeff Head

Well said.

“We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.”

One correction: the last word, “fool” is not the correct translation, it’s “ignorant or ignoramus.”

The significance is that Egyptians call the MB what they really are; sixth century “ignoramuses.”

An army statement that descriptive is very telling. In other cases they would have said “enemies of the state” type of cliché.


41 posted on 07/03/2013 6:32:12 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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To: Truth29

Obama will be causing trouble behind the scene.
*******
Good post overall. This will be full-on Chicago style press.


42 posted on 07/03/2013 6:32:24 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: kristinn

Thanks for this thread and all of the coverage! US media is in a virtual blackout on all of this.


43 posted on 07/03/2013 6:32:27 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: maryz
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44 posted on 07/03/2013 6:32:54 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: JPX2011
Right on the money my friend!

Yes, Carter destroyed 30 years of US influence in Persia.
He did massive damage to US interests in only 4 years.

Obama in 6 years has been given a mandate to unravel all US gains since 1945. This is serious stuff. Egypt was the USA’s kingpin in the Middle East, (even though secretly it is Israel but can't say it publicly) and now, that is virtually gone.

45 posted on 07/03/2013 6:33:26 AM PDT by Netz
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To: gov_bean_ counter
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46 posted on 07/03/2013 6:34:26 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: kristinn

When the last revolution happened, I overheard two older liberal ladies talking and one said “The only way America will CHANGE, advance and progress is when the young take over just like what is happening in Egypt now.” Was she incorrect?


47 posted on 07/03/2013 6:35:02 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: MAexile

Pictures on other thread will answer how the people there view 0

Many many messages to him and USA


48 posted on 07/03/2013 6:35:14 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: nikos1121
It's the economy. One of the supposedly compelling arguments to letting the Islamics into power was that they'd cause a rainstorm of cash to start falling from the oil rich nations, ending poverty and creating a jobs boom.

A rainstorm of cash did fall - from government reserves and with more than ten billion dollars in loans, and today, in many parts of Egypt, you don't dare plug in a computer without a fully charged backup battery, you have half a bedroom filled with water bottles to get through the next water outage, and you hope that you can get in good with the Islamics if you want to get a job.

Utter poverty has grown by more than 20% under Morsi, with half the country now living on $2 a day. Gas shortages are common, food shortages are becoming more common, and every day the Islamics find another part of Egyptian society to condemn and strike down.

Morsi promised redistribution of wealth, jobs, less poverty and strong Islamic law. What the people have seen is the Brotherhood looting the treasury, giving themselves all the jobs, lifting themselves out of poverty, and an ever shifting Islamic law, and of course, tourism has cratered.

In other words, in a year, Morsi has managed to turn Egypt into the Palestinian Authority.

49 posted on 07/03/2013 6:36:24 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: hoosiermama; maggief

Not sure what this indicates.

Egypt: Former Public Prosecutor Reinstated
July 3, 2013 | 1331 GMT
The Egyptian Supreme Council of the Judiciary approved the return of Abd-al-Majuid Mahmud as public prosecutor, according to screen caption on Nile News TV on July 3


50 posted on 07/03/2013 6:36:41 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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