Skip to comments.Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.0
Posted on 07/03/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by kristinn
The Egyptian army has set a deadline of 4 p.m. Cairo time for the Muslim Brotherhood government of President Morsi to compromise with the people of Egypt (by stepping down.) Morsi refuses. 18 people were killed and 200 were wounded in clashes at Cairo University last night.
A Washington Post report from Cairo on dueling statements from Morsi and the army:
Waving his hands and shaking his fists in a 45-minute speech on national television late Tuesday, Morsi swore that he was committed to the democratic process that brought him to power and said that any attempts to subvert the constitution were unacceptable.
The army, in turn, posted a message to its Facebook page saying: We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.
In his speech, Morsi acknowledged that he had made mistakes during his year in office as Egypts first democratically elected president. But he appealed to Egyptians to give him more time to deal with the countrys problems.
Link to originial FR thread from Friday with many amazing photos.
Time for a new live thread.
Just how clean was that election? As clean as, say, Obama's?
1335: Reports say the army has taken control of the state television building ahead of its expected statement.
GO Egypt, GO!
'nuff said. Looks like either Morsi backs down by 4 PM, or he is going to go the way of Hussein and Gadhafi.
And oooh, won't Obama's foreign policy be getting the come uppance it deserves.
If the military follows through with the plan thye announced yesterday, then Egypt will be far better off, and so will the entire region.
Can we still send them more F-16s? What are friends for?
(sarcam tag off/ for the sarcasm impaired)
Opposition Live Feed, pictures good, hard to understand unless you speak Egyptian. They even run Ads for Snickers LOL
Egypt: Army In Control Of TV Headquarters, Sources Say
July 3, 2013 | 1239 GMT
The Egyptian TV headquarters is under the control of the army and Republican Guards, sources said July 3, Al Arabiya reported
Egypt: Military Sources Deny Army Chief, Opposition Leader Meeting
July 3, 2013 | 1257 GMT
Egyptian military sources denied a meeting between opposition leader Mohamed ElBaradei and army chief Gen. Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, Al Arabiya reported July 3
Obama will be causing trouble behind the scene. He is backing Morsi and doing all he can to stop the Egyptian military from other reports posted on FR. If the military removes Morsi, Obama will try to destabilize the interim government and get the Muslim Brotherhood and the Salifists back in power IMO. He has consistently backed the radical transnational Islamists in each of these Middle East confrontations.
Press typically giving her a pass on her roll in this mess.
Anti-Obama banners and signs and no media coverage? I’m shocked!
No anti-obama signs to be found in CNN photo gallery
Barack didn’t hesitate to demand that Mubarak leave. Mubarak was a “bad” dictator - pro-Western, pro-U.S., at peace with Israel. Islamists are “good” dictators.
Much cleaner than Øbama's.
Clinton has a solid record of INcompetence. Her only qualification for office is that she is a woman, which counts for something among the addled leftists who support her.
I read you last post to me. Thanks so much. Now, than so much for the link!
It is now 3:14pm Cairo time. We will see what happens in an hour.
I’m here. Praying for the Egyptian army to put a stake through the heart of the Muslim Brotherhood and their plans to resurrect the caliphate. Praying for peace for our Coptic bretheren.
Lets see, Morsi is the terrorist, is Obama the radical of the fool? Or both?
Conservatives must bring Hillary’s name into the discussion when analyzing Obie’s foreign policy failures.
I’m totally lost here. The people want Morsi out. Why? To replace with who? These people want an Islamic country like Iran...They are surely anti-USA.
Boy o boy...Talk about our status in the world under Bush...people spit at us. No one fears us or respects us...
The Copts should cross the border into Israel where they will be free to pray in their churches...
Forty-five minutes to go. i hope the Army knows where Morsi is.
1:00 pm Military sources deny that opposition leader ElBaradei met with the military.
12:41 pm Egypt Muslim Brotherhood political party refused invitation to meet army commander: military sources
12:39 pm Army armored vehicles guard Egypt state TV building, staff not working on live productions have left
12:33pm Egyptian president’s spokesman says better for Mursi to die in defense of democracy than be blamed by history-statement
12:15pm Egyptian hardline Islamist group al-Gamaa al-Islamiya calls on supporters to remain peaceful - statement
12: 10pm Egyptian interior ministry says it will defend all forms of violence “side by side” with the army.
12:03pm Military sources say the defense minister is meeting with representative from Brotherhood and Salafist parties
11:47 am Military sources: ElBaradei, Al Azhar Sheikh and the Egyptian Pope are at the meeting with the military defense
11:30 am Military chiefs will release a statement after 4.30pm (local time) - 12:30pm GMT
11:14 am Egyptian opposition groups say ElBaradei is meeting with the defense minister now
10: 50 am Egypt’s ‘Tamarod’ says Mursi’s speech is an example that ‘he cannot claim responsibility.’
10: 50 am Egypt’s ‘Tamarod’ says Mursi must be arrested immediately on charges of calling for civil war.
10:26 am Egypts hardline al-Gamaa al-Islamiya denies it called on Mursi to hold early presidential elections.
10:14 am Senior military commanders were in emergency talks after Egypt’s Mursi rejected their ultimatum to resolve the current crisis
So you’re rooting for the Egyptian Army? OK, that’s cool as long as they maintain their sanity.
I am sure that Barry has told them not to topple Morsi. It would be against his personal, oops I mean, US interests...
Good morning y’all. Thanks for the new thread and ping, kristinn.
God be with those in Egypt that are seeking freedom from tyranny. Prayers up.
Replaced by a group of Egyptian Army generals.
They know on which side their bread is buttered...
My understanding is that the people’s desire for an MB islamist government has waned. I think there is an economic component as well vis a vis tourist dollars. Replaced by whom? I don’t know. But I suspect another Mubarak-like strongman.
Obama destroyed 40 years of foreign policy achievements we had with the Egyptians.
kristinn, are you going to lock the previous live thread?
Well according to their “leaked” roadmap the Army is talking about tossing out the entire leadership, disbanding the parliament and suspending the new consitution and scheduling presidential elections, so I think they’re serious.
Unless there is some sort of last-minute deal struck with less hardline islamist elements. But I’m just speculating.
You have nothing to worry about Ambassador Stevens...er...President Morsi.
Pray for America to Wake Up
Bout time for the army to go into action. Caww and Maggie have documented it all .... Day and night from the beginning on the initial thread Kristinn posted in the body of this thread
But it’s pretty obvious that the Egyptian military is coordinating with the Israeli military, so I don’t think they much give a damn what obama thinks about anything.
We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.
One correction: the last word, “fool” is not the correct translation, it’s “ignorant or ignoramus.”
The significance is that Egyptians call the MB what they really are; sixth century “ignoramuses.”
An army statement that descriptive is very telling. In other cases they would have said “enemies of the state” type of cliché.
Obama will be causing trouble behind the scene.
Good post overall. This will be full-on Chicago style press.
Thanks for this thread and all of the coverage! US media is in a virtual blackout on all of this.
Yes, Carter destroyed 30 years of US influence in Persia.
He did massive damage to US interests in only 4 years.
Obama in 6 years has been given a mandate to unravel all US gains since 1945. This is serious stuff. Egypt was the USA’s kingpin in the Middle East, (even though secretly it is Israel but can't say it publicly) and now, that is virtually gone.
When the last revolution happened, I overheard two older liberal ladies talking and one said “The only way America will CHANGE, advance and progress is when the young take over just like what is happening in Egypt now.” Was she incorrect?
Pictures on other thread will answer how the people there view 0
Many many messages to him and USA
A rainstorm of cash did fall - from government reserves and with more than ten billion dollars in loans, and today, in many parts of Egypt, you don't dare plug in a computer without a fully charged backup battery, you have half a bedroom filled with water bottles to get through the next water outage, and you hope that you can get in good with the Islamics if you want to get a job.
Utter poverty has grown by more than 20% under Morsi, with half the country now living on $2 a day. Gas shortages are common, food shortages are becoming more common, and every day the Islamics find another part of Egyptian society to condemn and strike down.
Morsi promised redistribution of wealth, jobs, less poverty and strong Islamic law. What the people have seen is the Brotherhood looting the treasury, giving themselves all the jobs, lifting themselves out of poverty, and an ever shifting Islamic law, and of course, tourism has cratered.
In other words, in a year, Morsi has managed to turn Egypt into the Palestinian Authority.
Not sure what this indicates.
Egypt: Former Public Prosecutor Reinstated
July 3, 2013 | 1331 GMT
The Egyptian Supreme Council of the Judiciary approved the return of Abd-al-Majuid Mahmud as public prosecutor, according to screen caption on Nile News TV on July 3