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THE TEA PARTY RISES UP AGAINST AMNESTY
Powerline ^ | 07/01/2013 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 07/01/2013 1:33:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It took a while, but the Tea Party movement seems now to be in full cry against amnesty-style immigration reform. The cry isn’t unanimous but, according to this article in Politico, it’s overwhelming:

Activists are promising to spend the congressional recess reminding lawmakers who support the Gang of Eight legislation what the base is capable of. Think loud town halls, jammed phone lines and primary challenges down the road — echoes of Obamacare three years ago.

“The anger is more intense now than it was in 2010,” said Judson Phillips, founder of Tea Party Nation. “They are more upset about the amnesty bill than they were about Obamacare.”

That last statement sounds like an exaggeration. But no Republican legislators supported Obamacare, so there was no cause for anger against incumbent Republicans in 2010 on that score. Even so, the Tea Party took down several prominent Republican legislators over financial bail-out related issues.

I wouldn’t be surprised if many in the Tea Party are as upset about “bailing out” 11 million or more lawbreakers as they were about bailing out troubled financial institutions.

In any event, House Republicans have little incentive to find out. As Politico notes, as a result of the cynical creation of safe congressional districts for Black and Hispanic members, most Republican members represent districts with few Hispanics. And virtually all Republican members were elected in 2012, a year of extremely high minority turnout.

Perhaps the best evidence of Tea Party anger is the letter (rather cloying, I thought) that the movement’s former darling Marco Rubio recently wrote to “conservatives and Tea Party” activists.

The letter begins, “Over the last few days, I have received numerous emails and calls from conservatives and Tea Party activists from across the country regarding immigration.” That key words are “over the last few days.” They show that, although the outrage of the conservative base was slow to develop — in part, I think, because key Fox News shows initially didn’t much air the anti-amnesty side and, unlike Team Amnesty, that side lacked the resources to advertise on Fox — it has now arrived.

Congress might still enact amnesty-style reform. But I’m more optimistic now that it won’t than I was a week or two ago.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; immigration; teaparty

1 posted on 07/01/2013 1:33:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
For all its bluster and fury, the Tea Party has failed to stop ANY of the Obama agenda.

I'm guessing the left isn't worried about Amnesty either.
2 posted on 07/01/2013 1:36:28 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A replay of the Obama care debate. Furious voters will try and confront their representatives and they will be ignored.


3 posted on 07/01/2013 1:44:13 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Tzimisce

If the tea party wasn’t effective then Romney, Rove and Obama and the media would not be so against it.

Right now tea party politicians are leading a powerful opposition to the left and rinoism.


4 posted on 07/01/2013 1:46:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wish some of us would also speak out against the pro-sodomite celebrations being forced upon us.


5 posted on 07/01/2013 1:47:29 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

I jabbed my liberal family members yesterday by declaring that my past marriage wasn’t real anyway since I wasn’t married in a church and was only married by the state which made it meaningless.


6 posted on 07/01/2013 1:51:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/john-mccain-the-future-of-gop-is-doomed-if-senate-amnesty-bill-not-passed-video/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/jeb-bush-urges-house-republicans-to-pass-amnesty/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/obama-calls-marco-rubio-and-congratulates-him-on-passing-immigration-bill/

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/30/RNC-vs-House-Republicans-over-Immigration

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/01/rep-gowdy-responds-to-dems-who-are-just-so-concerned-for-future-of-gop-im-moved-to-tears/

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/306451-allen-west-says-he-could-mount-primary-challenge-to-marco-rubio

http://hillbuzz.org/10-stupid-things-conservatives-do-every-day-that-democrats-love-11873#more-48230


7 posted on 07/01/2013 1:53:25 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Tzimisce

You may be right about that but certainly the Tea Party gave rise to Ted Cruz and others who were instrumental in squelching gun control in the Senate.


8 posted on 07/01/2013 2:10:37 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.house.gov/sites/members/tx10_mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

line in the sand....


9 posted on 07/01/2013 2:11:37 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Tzimisce

For all its bluster?

I seem to recall that quite a few republicans bit the dust because of the TEA party. Remember when everyone was talking about holding the politicians’ feet to the fire? It seems to me that the only ones doing that are the TEA parties.

You can tell who the left is worried about by counting the number of stories they publish saying who they are not worried about. Neither they nor the GOPe have yet to stop griping about the TEA party and the govt. has targeted them with most of their investigating and regulating agencies. So yes, they are still quite worried.

When the TEA parties say that they are angrier than before, the republicans should be very, very worried.


10 posted on 07/01/2013 2:15:02 PM PDT by Waryone (Anyone who advocates excusing Rubio's lying, traitorous behavior is GOPe.)
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To: Waryone

The folks who became the TEA Party took out amnesty the last time around.


11 posted on 07/01/2013 3:19:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Waryone
"....the republicans should be very, very worried."

Yep, they are the boats in the Aral Sea after we pull the plug.


12 posted on 07/01/2013 3:21:58 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind
The "tea party" was started by people who were fed up with invaders from Mexico crossing the border at will, and went out there themselves to identify border-crossers.

The movement got co-opted by "conservatives" who wanted less taxes, which of course everybody wants. The media gave the tax part a lot of attention, because everybody in power wants the cheap labor.

But constitutional conservatives remember what first got them started. If the 'pubs in the HOR don't stop this legislation in its tracks, nobody's going to vote for them.

I wonder if they're delusional enough to be surprised about the reaction to Rubio traitoring us on this, our biggest issue. It's past time for the HOR 'pubs to stand up. They stupidly left Boehner in power, it's up to them to figure out how to stop him from caving.

end of this rant.

13 posted on 07/01/2013 3:31:01 PM PDT by grania
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To: ansel12

I didn’t say it didn’t have the potential to be a big force.

I said so far, they haven’t stopped anything.

Can you think of anything the Tea Party derailed? I can’t.


14 posted on 07/01/2013 5:03:02 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Hostage

I don’t think they stopped gun control in the Senate.

If they could, this Amnesty deal would also be dead. (The Tea Party got us Rubio!!!!!)

There was something else involved in the Gun Deal - and it wasn’t the Tea Party.


15 posted on 07/01/2013 5:04:48 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Waryone

Yes and those Republicans were replaced by people like Rubio and Ayotte.

I didn’t say the Tea Party didn’t have potential.

I said it hasn’t stopped any part of the Obama agenda so far.

Can you think of anything the Tea Party has put the kabosh too?


16 posted on 07/01/2013 5:06:32 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

I pointed out that it is a big force and has been for years, that is why you, Rove, Romney, Obama, Reid, and the media despise it so much.

The tea party, Palin, and it’s many election successes over the last few years is offering up the strongest conservative push back that we have seen in decades.

It isn’t going away anytime soon, this push back against immigration wouldn’t exist without it for example.


17 posted on 07/01/2013 5:08:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: ansel12
I pointed out that it is a big force and has been for years, that is why you, Rove, Romney, Obama, Reid, and the media despise it so much.

I don't despise the Tea Party.

It needs to get off its ass and FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT.

The tea party, Palin, and it’s many election successes over the last few years is offering up the strongest conservative push back that we have seen in decades.

The strongest push back?

Tell me exactly what the Tea Party has stopped so far.
Taxes are up.
Gay Marriage is now legal.
Spending is up.
The Amnesty deal is being brought to us by Tea Party favorite Marco Rubio.

What has the Tea Party stopped?

Where is this giant push back?

It isn’t going away anytime soon, this push back against immigration wouldn’t exist without it for example.

This is 2006 Amnesty redo. It was defeated then without the Tea Party.

Note that this 2013 Amnesty battle is not over. There is a very real possibility that it will pass.

Republicans are talking tough now, but they always do right before giving the left everything it wants.
18 posted on 07/01/2013 5:41:50 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

Ted Cruz is a Tea Party conservative. He was a big factor in stopping the gun control bill in the Senate.


19 posted on 07/01/2013 5:55:24 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Tzimisce

LOL, OK, you think the tea party is useless and hasn’t accomplished anything in it’s 3 or 4 years of existence.

You don’t like them and they haven’t managed to save America yet from everything that you don’t like, so what, go complain to Rove.


20 posted on 07/01/2013 5:58:46 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: Tzimisce

Can you think of anything the republicans have “put the kabosh to”? Can you think of any subject where the republicans haven’t given in? Even though the Ayottes and the Rubios are TEA party republicans, they have either become co-opted liberaltarians like Ayotte or they are stealth liberals like Rubio.

Texas did do a good job with Ted Cruz.

Just as a journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. Solving these problems has to start by taking care of what we have in front of us to do. We can pay absolutely no attention to them when they tell us we have to vote for them because they think we have no where else to go. We can throw these clowns out of office in the primaries and stop believing them when they say they didn’t mean it, they’ll be good and vote conservative if we just vote them back into office.

I try not to fault people for attempting to do something and not succeeding. I find fault with those who give up or don’t even try. Many GOPe republicans not only don’t they try, they join the other side. The TEA parties are the only ones letting the GOPe know that is not acceptable.


21 posted on 07/01/2013 6:13:54 PM PDT by Waryone (Anyone who advocates excusing Rubio's lying, traitorous behavior is GOPe.)
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To: Tzimisce
"For all its bluster and fury, the Tea Party has failed to stop ANY of the Obama agenda."

The Tea Party definitely slowed the Obammunist agenda with the a** whupping it helped deliver in 2010. It was only when, for whatever reason, the Tea Party went "behind the scenes" that it lost its effectiveness. The Tea Party's power came from being loud, being visible, being out in the streets and on the local news TV screens. Unless it (we) returns to the streets, the Tea Party will continue to be a footnote.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

22 posted on 07/01/2013 6:56:42 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: Tzimisce

A little thing that had to do with help from 0’s friends at the IRS comes to mind...


23 posted on 07/01/2013 7:01:43 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: wku man
It was only when, for whatever reason, the Tea Party went "behind the scenes" that it lost its effectiveness

Really? You don't understand what the IRS and the audits did? Really? You sdon't understand what the democrat/media comples did to the TEA party? Really?

24 posted on 07/01/2013 7:07:58 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Hostage

The Tea Party didn’t kill the gun bill.

If they had that kind of leverage in the Senate, they would have used it to kill the Amnesty bill.


25 posted on 07/01/2013 11:49:37 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: ansel12

Okay: list some things the Tea Party has done so far.

Taxes are up.
Government growth is up.
Obamacare is still in effect.

Am I missing something? What has the Tea Party accomplished?

The Tea Party COULD do something if it wanted too.

But for some reason, it won’t.


26 posted on 07/01/2013 11:51:42 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: wku man
Slowed?

Well what good is that?
27 posted on 07/01/2013 11:53:43 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

In 2010, the TEA Party put the brakes on Obama’s unbridled socialism.

They were, then, thwarted by Obama’s government.........unlawfully.


28 posted on 07/02/2013 12:03:40 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (To the GOPe ~ Chickens...comin' home...to roost!)
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To: Tzimisce

The Republicans knew about the Obama government’s unlawful dealings with the TEA Party, but did nothing about it.

They feel just as threatened as the dems do.......and rightly so.


29 posted on 07/02/2013 12:07:30 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (To the GOPe ~ Chickens...comin' home...to roost!)
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To: Tzimisce
Can you think of anything the Tea Party derailed? I can’t.

Do you still have a gun ?

30 posted on 07/02/2013 12:12:38 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Lakeshark
Of course I understand the IRS harassment, and the bullsh*t accusations against us by the media...I was there.

I purposefully avoided getting into that because some people out there can't seem to accept that it's not one or the other that caused the Tea Party to go underground, but both. My point is that in order to be effective, the Tea Party needs to get back out in the streets and get loud. Getting into an argument over semantics, which we're so good at here on FReep, is counterproductive.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

31 posted on 07/02/2013 6:02:29 AM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: Tzimisce; justa-hairyape
"Well what good is that?"

I couldn't say it better than justa-hairyape did...you still have your gun, don't you? Thank the Tea Party and the drubbing they delivered in the 2010 elections for slowing the Obammunist agenda.

That said, you and I agree that the Tea Party needs to find its collective spine and come back out of the shadows. Its (our) strength always was that we were loud, motivated, and in the streets.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

32 posted on 07/02/2013 6:09:04 AM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: wku man

No prob, I was just pointing out the obvious: Bambi used the organs of the state and the media to neutralize the TEA party, there was no “whatever reason” to it, they did what all good totalitarians do, they took out their opposition and did not allow it free voice.


33 posted on 07/02/2013 7:54:56 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: wku man; justa-hairyape

The defeat of the gun bill had nothing to do with the Tea Party.

If the Tea Party had that much clout in the Senate, we wouldn’t even be talking about Amnesty.

I don’t know why the gun bill was defeated in the Senate. I don’t think anyone else is all that sure either - but it wasn’t the Tea Party.


34 posted on 07/02/2013 10:49:19 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce
"I don’t know why the gun bill was defeated in the Senate. I don’t think anyone else is all that sure either - but it wasn’t the Tea Party."

That sounds a lot like the atheists saying they don't know what caused life to emerge on Earth, but they know it wasn't God's doing. Lame.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

35 posted on 07/02/2013 12:01:31 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: wku man

You know, if I was a liberal I’d be laughing and pissing in your face too.

While you’re sitting on your ass being the smartest person in the room, the left’s taking over.

Think about that while you’re on your high horse.


36 posted on 07/02/2013 12:10:18 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce
You just want to get in a fight with someone, don't you? Take it elsewhere, Chuckles, 'cause I have better things to do with my time than babysit a toddler having a tantrum.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

37 posted on 07/02/2013 12:18:56 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: Tzimisce

You say you do not know why the gun bill was defeated, but then you say the Tea Party had nothing to do with it. You contradict yourself. You either know or you do not know. You cannot do both.


38 posted on 07/02/2013 12:47:28 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: wku man

” I couldn’t say it better than justa-hairyape did...you still have your gun, don’t you? Thank the Tea Party and the drubbing they delivered in the 2010 elections for slowing the Obammunist agenda.”

Actually, Obamacare was the reason for the 2010 drubbing.

“That said, you and I agree that the Tea Party needs to find its collective spine and come back out of the shadows. Its (our) strength always was that we were loud, motivated, and in the streets.”

It’s not a “spine” that the TEA Party needs. It’s the 501c4 designation...which the IRS did not give, and STILL has not given.

The progressive groups who requested 501c4 designations sailed through...not so the TEA Party requests.

They are still persona non grata.


39 posted on 07/03/2013 12:09:01 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (To the GOPe ~ Chickens...comin' home...to roost!)
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To: dixiechick2000
"Actually, Obamacare was the reason for the 2010 drubbing."

Says you. Others I have talked with said it was the porkulus. Others said it was cap and tax. Yet others said it was increasing gas and food prices. In truth, it was probably all of those reasons and more. Let's quit arguing semantics and start focusing on defeating those who are pushing all of those agendas, eh?

"It’s not a “spine” that the TEA Party needs. It’s the 501c4 designation...which the IRS did not give, and STILL has not given.

The progressive groups who requested 501c4 designations sailed through...not so the TEA Party requests."

So? The deck is stacked against us...what else is new? Is anyone really surprised the IRS is being used to shut us up? Are we going to use that as an excuse to just stop fighting? To cower in the shadows, like the pants-wetting Pubbies in Congress do whenever a real fight is at hand? Are we going to let our enemies determine how we respond to their attacks?

I'm sure glad our military hasn't had that mindset over the years..."Gee, General Bradley, the Germans aren't attacking where we thought they would, so I recommend we retreat until they do." Or, how about, "Gee, General MacArthur, Tokyo Rose is calling us racists, so maybe we should stop all attacks and go behind the scenes, because we sure don't want them to think we're racist." Sheesh...are we not going to fight because our contributions to the cause aren't tax deductible? Are we really going to sit down and shut up because our enemies are saying bad things about us? If that's what's stopping us from getting mean with these dictators, then we deserve whatever tyranny they impose upon us.

The Tea Party (and We The Sheeple in general) needs to grow a spine, and come out of the shadows. Just because our enemies aren't fighting fair is no reason for us to strike the tents and go home. It means we need to fight even harder, protest even louder, march even further in the streets, hold even more rallies, make even more calls to Congress, and yes, donate money even if it's not deductible!

Or we can just keep on coming home from work, yelling at O'Reilly for an hour, then going on FReep and arguing whether the parting is on the left, or the parting is on the right.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

40 posted on 07/03/2013 12:11:37 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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