Posted on 07/01/2013 7:35:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I would not be surprised if it was sooner than that. Perhaps much sooner. Although the opinion in Windsor was nominally grounded in the states' ability to regulate marriage, the overall reasoning (if you want to call it that) of the decision could very easily be extended to either (a) require the states to give full faith & credit to same-sex "marriages" performed elsewhere, and/or (b) require that all states perform same-sex "marriages." I would guess that the case that will eventually wind up in front of the Supreme Court on one or both of these issues has already been filed in some Federal court somewhere.
The stay was ended last week. Gay couples are getting hitched in CA as we speak.
Improperly and illegally. The Ninth Circus was required to wait for the finalized decision in about 25 days from ruling. This, they failed to do.
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And not just this decision, but many others. Someone alerted me to this comment from Travis McGee which is very relevant to the discussion:
The reset, when it comes, (and it might not be 50 states “after” the reset), will sweep away the original “poisoned tree” which is Marbury vs Madison, all the way back to 1803.
The Constitution does NOT say that the SCOTUS is the final arbiter of all laws in the USA. In fact, it puts Congress over the SCOTUS.
For perspective: Article One, dealing with congress, is 2,269 words long. Article Two, the executive, is 1,025 words. Article Three, the judiciary is only 377 words. Only 295 words if you take out Article Three Section 3, which deals with definitions of treason, not the judiciary.
And here is the applicable part of Article Three:
“In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.”
Right there, it says that congress can regulate the SCOTUS, and decide which cases should or should not be under their purview.
The fact that the congress has abrogated this power since Marbury vs Madison doesn’t mean that this power no longer exists in the Constitution. After our coming crash and reset etc, I have some small hope that the “Tyranny of Five” will be thrown out. Nowhere in the Constiution or the Federalist Papers etc does it say that the SCOTUS shall have the power to redefine marriage to include homosexual unions and so on.
It was never the intention of our Founding Fathers that our Republic should become a tyranny of five judges.
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Here’s the thread TMG’s comment is from:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:travismcgee/index?more=85833956
SCOTUS DOMA Ruling A Loss For Big Government, Democrats Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:23:13 AM · 24 of 66
The Federal government would logically attempt to crush one state, rather like Hungary being crushed in 1956 by Soviet Union and its satellites, if history is any guide. Speculatively, the harsh measures undertaken in the aftermath of a conquest might well lead to secession elsewhere, or a long insurgency that became a perennial sore to the powerful. Economics is called the dismal science but history can be depressing- there are lots of situations where the choices range from bad to worse. It is not meant for us to know what will happen, but it is safe to say nothing good.
I wish the north east would secedes and if not then I would love for the south to leave as I;ve had it with DC and the north east liberal snowbirds who come down here pushing their liberal agenda==
That may be; but after the first gay marriage state supreme court decision, Goodridge v. Massachusetts (2003), the state governor (Romney) just said, in effect, oh just let them get married -- even though the state legislature had not passed a law permitting it. So, technically, it is still illegal in Massachusetts, but they have full-bore gay marriage, gay affirmative action, coed bathrooms and school indoctrination going on there ever since the oligarchs broke wind on the subject.
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