Posted on 06/27/2013 10:15:31 AM PDT by Perdogg
Starbucks baristas must share their tips with shift supervisors, but assistant managers are left out in the cold, New York’s highest court ruled Wednesday.
The Court of Appeals found that shift supervisors do much of the same work as the coffee servers and therefore get to share in the tips. The court also ruled the company can deny those tips to assistant managers.
(Excerpt) Read more at seattle.cbslocal.com ...
If shift supervisors are doing “much of the same work” as the bartenders, and are therefore worthy of some tippage, what are assistant managers doing?
Just to bring up a popular topic, what “standing” does the court have to dictate this?
When I did restaurant work, a significant amount of tips went straight into the servers pocket, to avoid skimming issues like this....
Well, thank heavens this has been decided. I’ve been without sleep for months awaiting the brilliance from the NY Supreme Court. Isn’t it great that we don’t have any important issues to decide upon. This is what I like to call a ‘first world’ court decision.
Ah, the NYState Court of Appeals doing the work that Americans can not or will not do.
Didn't you know: The government and the courts get to determine everything in regards to employment. It is no longer acceptable to have an employer state "hey, this is my policy, if you don't like it, don't work for me - go to the next door!" No way, we can't have that! The government and courts will tell us how to run our businesses, how much profit we are allowed to make, and how we need to handle HR issues.
Ahh, shift supervisors will get a raise.
See what college gets you?
Seems perfectly in line with liberal logic. If you apply the same reasoning that was applied in the Kelo case, the government is justified in taking money from one person and giving it to another who’s in a higher tax bracket so that they can collect more of it in taxes.
A State Supreme Court has to intervene and dictate how to divvy up the tips at Starbucks?
We’re DOOOOOOMED!!!!!
Nice to see that the courts are now making decisions on how private business should be run, all the way down to who gets the tips. Its hard to see where the madness will end.
I’m still trying to figure out why folks think anyone should tip for counter service. I never heard of this before Starbucks.
I don’t tip the guy at 7-11, nor do I tip the guy at the movie theatre.
I don’t tip the pharmacist either but if I was getting one of those little blue pills I might salute.
They discovered that the method it’s been done for at least 60 years that I have been involved in this industry, is correct..DUH!
The Starbucks people tried to steal tips from the low paid workers that are backbone of their huge profit model, to supplement underpaid management salaries, and they were caught.. Shameful.. /:
This is the governments way of explaining to the worker how government works. You pay those who make the rules, schedules, judge your performance, attendance, and give or deny you a raise by paying them off in your hard earned cash.
“Nice to see that the courts are now making decisions on how private business should be run, all the way down to who gets the tips. Its hard to see where the madness will end.”
No, that’s not what the court did. It’s a badly-written article offering little clarity, but the court was just deciding how existing NY state law applies to the facts of this case. When the parties can’t agree on how a law applies, courts are SUPPOSED to sort it out. If you don’t think the law should concern itself with coffee shop tips, I guess you have a beef with the NY legislature that made the law.
(I think a tip jar should be a matter for private employment contracts, not for legislatures. But I’m also a neanderthal who also believes minimum wage laws are stupid, so my opinion doesn’t count.)
Tipping in self-service joints? What a concept!
I would quit on the spot!
“If you don’t think the law should concern itself with coffee shop tips, I guess you have a beef with the NY legislature that made the law.”
I’ve had a beef with the NYS legislature for the last 30 years. I can’t wait to retire so I can escape the left bank of the Hudson river.
Easiest solution is to not leave tips at Starbucks or cease going altogether. That’ll learn ‘em!
Wouldn't the salute happen in absentia, after you've taken it? :=)
Be sure to swallow quickly -- You don't want to get a stiff neck.
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