Skip to comments.SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN FEDERAL PROVISION DENYING BENEFITS TO LEGALLY MARRIED SAME-SEX COUPLES
Posted on 06/26/2013 7:12:46 AM PDT by The Sons of LibertyEdited on 06/26/2013 7:25:51 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Text of decision here.
“This wouldnt have happened if Ronald Reagan had done his homework.”
Same can be said of George W. Bush and his appointment of John Roberts, who matador’ed through Obamacare, a law that will destroy healthcare in this country. All GOP appointments to the SCOTUS should be measured against Clarence Thomas — anyone left of him is out.
Many states explicitly require by law consummation of marriage for the vows to be considered valid. They include Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Ohio, South Carolina, Vermont and Wisconsin.
Ok Good- flat and fair tax for all then.
Nope. No surprise whatsoever.
I will NEVER endorse marriage other than between one man and one woman.
Conservatives would understand the federal government has no jurisdiction over marriage. I would tend to thank Republicans for broadening the illegal scope of federal power with DOMA. As another posted, if the federal government stuck to the Constitution, all the "marriage benefits" would be eliminated and restricting those benefits would be a non sequitur.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation. I’m no tax expert. I do my own taxes on Turbotax, cross my eyes and hope for the best!
In all fairness to RWR Kennedy was his third choice (after Bork and Ginsberg).
Divorce Lawyers Rejoice!
Psalm 83, Ezekiel 38 and 39, Revelation 19...coming soon.
Reagan still yielded to the path of least resistance: too busy chopping wood, I guess. He was also warned about O’Connor but insisted on placing a woman on the court, as he had pledged in the 1980 campaign. Reagan was too little, too late.
DING,DING, DING, DING, DING!
Mom's past on. Daddy's worth a $billion. Guess what comes next....
People have a right to their Federal benefits based on state-sanctioned sodomy.
Game, set, match. Now, on to polygamy!
Yes but now all the other states with their mostly left leaning courts will just toss out their amendments as well. Why is it a STATE issue but then they let the lower COURT order of over turning what the STATE wanted stand?
Oh well, you know what this issue has been forced down our throats and nobody stood up against it hard enough. Frankly I’m more pissed over the Obamacare ruling. That is going to be more destructive than anything in the long run including the immigration bill if passed.
If we are going into perdition, we might as well go headlong. I’m hoping that this hastens the societal decent into lawlessness, so that a real society rooted in righteousness might rise from the ashes.
Kennedy flipped. Never forget he gave legalized sodomy in the Texas decision, so this is not much of a surprise. If the court comes out and says all states have to recognize
queer “marriage” performed in any state, this country is done.
Finished. So far they did not say that. IF they have any sense they will leave marriage up the states. Federal gubment never had any right getting involved anyway.
The country is beyond saving...cry out to G-d as individuals. King Josiah comes to mind...
The really tragedy of this decision is for what it means for our Military. If you think the attacks were bad before, they now have a LICENSE to attack Christian views unhindered.
I guess the “S” in USA stands for Sodomites.
Kennedy a LIBERTARIAN?????
That’s a hoot. He’s a big government liberal.
What legislation was in place to prevent hetero couples from doing the same thing?
I am absolutely convinced that the root of many of our social problems lie in our monetary system. Money defines a society. Get rid of the Federal Reserve, and you cut off Progressive control of Government and long-term funding for their social engineering schemes. Consequently, 1000 socials ills few would have imagined are connected to our financial system begin the process of righting themselves.
DOMA was enacted to prevent federal benefits like SS, Medicare, federal survivor benefits, and other benefits to same sex marriages. It kept the federal definition of marriage to between a man and a woman.
Guys and gals, find a same sex buddy for CLAIM purposes and benefits only, to pair up with and get "married", with a pre-nup that protects all your assets, no cost to each other for divorce, etc.
Then, you can get all the benefits of "Married" couples, apply as "Married" for jobs, etc.
Beat the faggots and dykes at their own game.....
God has an app for that.
“Psalm 83, Ezekiel 38 and 39, Revelation 19...coming soon.”
Federal agencies already recognize gay unions with their health benefits. If you work for lets say the FBI and our part of gay couple you can get coverage of all health and other benefits for your partner at tax payer expense. This has been the fact for years.
UnGodly Sodomites of Antichrist?
IT IS A FEDERAL ISSUE. The feds must decide on spousal benefits for things like SSN, Medicare, survivor benefits for federal benefits, spousal benefits for federal employees, etc. These are major issues with big bucks involved.
Unless more of the queer “marriage” ruling comes out later, the sodomites lost. They were looking for legal recognition in all states, for the federal government to say if they got married in NY then Alabama has to recognize it. They were looking for the court to say that states CAN NOT define marriage, by a vote of the people or any other way. So if this is the final ruling and nothing else comes out later, the fags in my opinion lost. The big loser is the Federal government because friends will be getting “married” just so they can cheat on taxes. Kennedy is a moron.
When filing income tax, same-sex couples will have to pay the “marriage penalty”, just like real married couples.
example of when something declared legal, is not morally right.
all laws are a reflection of morality. the question is, whose morality will the laws reflect, yours or someone else’s. this is why christians must be involved in government and working to make their views heard and applying pressure to get them implemented.
My first thought was, “What would our founding fathers tink of this?” I believe they would have been surprised that the most important issue of the day is buggery. They would be saddened that what they worked to create in the Constitution and the guarantee of basic rights in the Bill of Rights are being thrown away in a “Fundamental Transformation”.
How did they LOSE? They got prop 8 over turned and DOMA over turned?
He was a great President by the way. Perfect no.
“Guys and gals, find a same sex buddy for CLAIM purposes and benefits only, to pair up with and get “married”, with a pre-nup that protects all your assets, no cost to each other for divorce, etc.
Then, you can get all the benefits of “Married” couples, apply as “Married” for jobs, etc.
Beat the faggots and dykes at their own game..... “
Exactly and that’s all this ruling does. It’s a joke.
Prop 8, No legal standing for the claimants. Only Fairy Brown and the State of California could contest the Appeals court decision, that would never happen. PUNT!
I completely agree... if anything it strengthens the states rights argument. DOMA weakend this..
It’s over! I was in Seattle last week. Gay magazines on the newstands. Guys licking on eachother, etc. If angels from the Most High appeared today, some queer would try to faggocize them. We really had a good run. Over 200 years of G0d-fearing liberty. Now we have to live in this cesspool called America. “Even so come Lord Jesus!”
THERE IS NO HOMOSEXUAL “AGENDA”
THERE IS NO HOMOSEXUAL “AGENDA”
THERE IS NO HOMOSEXUAL “AGENDA”
THERE IS NO HOMOSEXUAL “AGENDA”
That’s what the liberal activists tried to claim when Rick Santorum spoke of the “slippery slope” in the wake of the Supreme Court decision protecting homosexuality as an afflicted behavior.
The fact that they pushed for same sex marriage (because their love should not be denied), same sex divorce (because they should not be forced to be in a relationship with someone they hate), same sex adoption (because a child does not need to consent to be brought up in an alternative lifestyle home of consenting adults), gay scout leaders, et al.... just a coincidence. Really...
Next time you’re tempted to dump on Californie for never getting it right, remember that when we do it gets struck down anyway. This is the third time I can remember.
What’s your brilliant plan with spousal visas? I want to hear it.
“Make it a lottery so every once in a while you draw a supermodel.”
You may be on to something there!
“Conservatives would understand the federal government has no jurisdiction over marriage”
What’s your brilliant plan for spousal visas?
Santorum’s been proven right every time.
Now, I wonder if all the folks here are happy having King O over President Santorum.
Agreed. And also, if it is the Court's rationale that ...
.... "DOMA is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the equal liberty of persons that is protected by the Fifth Amendment."
Then, 0bamacare MUST also now be declared as UNCONSTITUTIONAL since it likewise deprives citizens of equal liberty as protected by the Fifth Amendment. Friends of BHO got exemptions from his TAX, while religious, patriotic, God-fearing, Tea Party, etc. citizens got the shaft.
Screw it. Let them have the benefits, it will bankrupt the welfare state faster. I’m beginning to think that Clovard-Piven inadvertently handed us the only viable strategy to kill off the welfare state. We’ve tried pretty much everything else.
Not exactly shocked by either decision. Marriage has been something that is of state concern.
While I don’t like the expansion of the welfare state, this is probably a “correct” decision from a Federalist standpoint.
Unfortunately, the next logical step will be for Tadd and Todd to move from a “gay” state to a “non-gay” state and try to file a joint return there claiming the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution. Obama’s IRS should reject.