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Rubio on his new immigration amendment: “A dramatic improvement on border security”
Hotair ^ | 06/20/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 06/20/2013 3:27:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Rubio was on Fox News a few minutes ago as I’m writing this to tout the new Corker/Hoeven plan that Ed wrote about earlier. No video yet, but both Byron York and Elise Foley quote him similarly. Rubio’s spent the last few weeks searching for an amendment that will tighten the border but not tighten it so much that Democrats will walk away from the Gang of Eight bill. And now, it seems, he’s found it:

Rubio on Fox: 'This is dramatic expansion & improvement in border security that I hope will allow this legislation to have support it needs'

— Byron York (@ByronYork) June 20, 2013

Rubio on Fox News: "I think this amendment is a dramatic improvement on border security."

— Elise Foley (@elisefoley) June 20, 2013

The GOP gets lots more Border Patrol officers, high-tech surveillance equipment for watching the border, full implementation of E-Verify, and 700 miles of fencing that Congress already authorized seven years ago. What do Democrats get? It’s what they don’t get. Instead of the biometric entry/exit system that Republicans wanted to help crack down on visa overstays, we’ll have a lower-tech biographic system instead. And more importantly, the “triggers” for enforcement will be soft:

But — and this is big – the provision sought by conservatives such as John Cornyn, that 90 percent apprehension be achieved as a “hard trigger” is no longer in the deal as a precondition for citizenship. As the Times puts it: “Republicans agreed to make the 90 percent figure a goal rather than a requirement.” The key is that additional Republicans beyond the gang of eight — such as Bob Corker and John Hoeven — appear prepared to accept this.

Leading immigration advocate Frank Sharry, who was briefed on the emerging deal, tells me Dems successfully beat back Republican demands for inclusion of the 90 percent “hard trigger.” And so Sharry’s group, America’s Voice, can support the deal, albeit reluctantly.

“The deal is ridiculous from a policy point of view — it’s excessive and wasteful,” Sharry tells me. “But from a political point of view, if it brings 10 or 11 Senate Republican votes, we’ll probably will be able to live with it.” Sharry says this is because the current triggers in the emerging compromise are “doable and achievable.”

Democrats still get probationary legalization for illegals right away. That’s their core demand because, once some form of legalization is granted, political pressure will inevitably build to grant them full citizenship regardless of the state of the border. The only real leverage border hawks have in getting the left to follow through on the bill’s enforcement provisions is to demand that any form of legalization be suspended until security targets are met. Corker/Hoeven doesn’t require that; in fact, it apparently relaxes the requirements for the second stage of the legalization process too, i.e. the path to citizenship, by not absolutely requiring 90 percent apprehension before illegals start gaining eligibility for green cards. That’s the sort of compromise Rubio’s been looking for — something that improves border security on paper but doesn’t apply too much pressure to the other side to make that security a reality. He prefers to see a weak bill pass than to stand on principle for true border-security triggers. Remember that the next time you hear him say that he’s doing this because it’s good policy, not good politics.

A few random thoughts. One: This is all about gaining Republican votes, not building a well-crafted bill. The effect on border security of adding 20,000 more Border Patrol agents is, as far as I know, a total question mark. (With more guest workers allowed in under the bill and a comparatively weak system for detecting visa overstays, more border agents might not reduce the number of illegals in the U.S. dramatically.) We could gain some idea by holding hearings, but neither party in the pro-amnesty camp gives a wet fart about the actual policy effects here. The security measures in Corker/Hoeven are designed purely to make the bill look tougher so that wary Senate Republicans feel safer voting yes. It’s already working. Two: Needless to say, the CBO score that everyone was oohing and aahing over two days ago will have to be completely redone. The bill will obviously cost more now with tens of thousands of BP officers on the federal payroll. Their presence on the border will presumably reduce the forecast for new illegal immigration by some (smallish) degree, which means all the other economic effects in the bill will change. The whole point of the CBO study was that illegals will help reduce the deficit on balance (in the near term) because they’ll bring economic growth to America. Does that still hold true if there are fewer illegals coming across the border over the next 10 years?

Three: If — if — you trust House Republicans to demand border security before any form of legalization, then having the Senate pass this thing with Republican support isn’t a terrible outcome. The consolation prize for Democrats if the bill fails is demagoging the GOP for being anti-Latino, which might help them with turnout in the midterms next year. If 20 Senate Republicans vote for the Gang of Eight bill, that argument is harder to make. Suddenly it becomes a message about House Republicans specifically, and House Republicans have much less to fear in their small red districts than GOP senators do. The big question mark right now isn’t how Corker/Hoeven plays in the Senate, it’s how it plays in the House. Will GOPers who’ve been talking tough lately suddenly go soft?

Exit question via Conn Carroll: CBO estimated that, of the estimated 11.5 million illegals currently in the U.S., only eight million or so would qualify for the initial probationary legalization under the Gang’s bill. What happens to the other 3.5 million?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; americanfascist; amnesty; bordersecurity; illegal; immigration; rubio

1 posted on 06/20/2013 3:27:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
They didn't follow through on the "border security" in the last amnesty bill. There is absolutely no reason to believe that they will follow through this time.
2 posted on 06/20/2013 3:28:15 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Only a fool and a idiot believes anything coming from La Raza Rubio.


3 posted on 06/20/2013 3:31:39 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: SeekAndFind

So Marco, what happens when it finally gets back to the senate and disappears behind the closed doors of committee?


4 posted on 06/20/2013 3:33:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

BS!!!! Wake up, Rubio, or switch Parties!!


5 posted on 06/20/2013 3:33:13 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I agree. This Rubio kid is a 100% fraud.


7 posted on 06/20/2013 3:38:11 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Look for a "breakthrough" on a border security provision in the gang's bill, just in time for the big vote.

Of course the US government will never secure our borders. They will remain open until we disappear completely.

8 posted on 06/20/2013 3:40:22 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Marco Rubio, 2009

“I am strongly against amnesty. The most important thing we need to do is enforce our existing laws.

We have existing immigration laws that are not being adequately enforced.

Nothing will make it harder to enforce the existing laws, if you reward people who broke them.

It demoralizes people who are going through the legal process, its a very clear signal of why go through the legal process, if you can accomplish the same thing if you go through the illegal process.

And number two, if demoralizes the people enforcing the laws.

I am not, and I will never support any effort to grant blanket legalization/amnesty to folks who have entered, stayed in this country illegally.”

ScRew-U-BIO! You lying POS!


9 posted on 06/20/2013 3:42:38 PM PDT by billys kid ("Bury me on my head for one day this world will be upside down." (Diogenes))
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t you pay advisors to tell you when you sound like a drunk idiot?
Rubio...you sound like a drunk idiot!
Where’s my $150k?


10 posted on 06/20/2013 3:44:40 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

and how about when the feds say don’t deport or they have more rights than us.

This is B/S, we will have tens of millions coming here if this goes through and most of those millions will be from third world cess pits.


11 posted on 06/20/2013 3:44:46 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind
A few random thoughts. One: This is all about gaining Republican votes, not building a well-crafted bill.

This shows how stupid Republicans in the Senate are. Or how stupid they think we are. Every Republican Senator who buys into this needs to be kicked out of office, and that especially includes our Senator John Cornyn who is up for re-election in 2014.

12 posted on 06/20/2013 3:49:55 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: SeekAndFind

boy i hope people are already melting down the lines to corker and hoeven.


13 posted on 06/20/2013 4:01:33 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: SeekAndFind

Please, Marco Rubio shut up.

You are telling untruths. Legalizing 11 million illegals is insanity. Why not focus on legal immigrants. What a complete sell out to his campaign pledge, no amnesty, no granting illegals citizenship. Someone find that in his campaign stops.


14 posted on 06/20/2013 4:10:36 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: SeekAndFind

Senator Rubio, I was born at night, but not last night. You have ripped your drawers with me. There is nothing that you can do now or in the future to get me to vote for you. If you are the Republican choice, then I will sit out my first presidential election, and there have been quite a few because I am 73-years old.


15 posted on 06/20/2013 4:15:06 PM PDT by Saltmeat (Y)
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To: SeekAndFind

Senator Rubio, I was born at night, but not last night. You have ripped your drawers with me. There is nothing that you can do now or in the future to get me to vote for you. If you are the Republican choice, then I will sit out my first presidential election, and there have been quite a few because I am 73-years old.


16 posted on 06/20/2013 4:16:28 PM PDT by Saltmeat (Y)
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To: SeekAndFind

17 posted on 06/20/2013 4:46:02 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: SeekAndFind
The amnesty is the right to remain; citizenship makes no difference. The amnestied will still compete for jobs lowering wages, crowding schools, and qualifying for affirmative action.

When Republicans fight citizenship provisions they are protecting their jobs not yours.

Any border enforcement will make little difference given that the bill will vastly increase legal immigration, swamping the country. No one will be spared: high skill, low skill. Remember according to those pushing the bill, if you are not a superstar (and most of us aren't) you don't deserve a job.

We have crowded schools, traffic congestion, overburdened infrastructure, water shortages, loss of open space: adding two million immigrants each year is not the solution regardless of border security.

18 posted on 06/20/2013 4:49:33 PM PDT by evilC
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To: billys kid

More drones, when the ones CBP has now are more expensive than operating manned aircraft.


19 posted on 06/20/2013 5:00:41 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder what the dems have on Rubio.


20 posted on 06/20/2013 5:22:57 PM PDT by willk
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To: SeekAndFind

We need a new party that voluntarily commits to term limits.


21 posted on 06/20/2013 5:41:27 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, at least we can give it to Dupio that he is persistent, sticking with his amnesty push to the bitter end, yet all the while showing himself to be a liar and charlatan of the first order.


22 posted on 06/20/2013 5:53:40 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Saltmeat
If you are the Republican choice, then I will sit out my first presidential election

Marco Rubio

born May 28, 1971 in Miami, FL

Parents were
Mario Rubio born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.
Oria Garcia born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.

Parents were NOT US Citizens at the time of his birth.

Marco Rubio is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Marco's status is the same as that of Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama, who is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

23 posted on 06/20/2013 6:10:16 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Eight Cucarachas obviously believe Republicans are a bunch of Rubiots.


24 posted on 06/20/2013 6:36:26 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Too little. Too late.


25 posted on 06/20/2013 6:52:31 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (Not just the IRS, what about ATF, OSHA, EPA and other big govt groups)
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To: SeekAndFind

Heard from a guest on Hannity today: The large print giveth and the fine print taketh away.


26 posted on 06/20/2013 7:02:48 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rubio supplies the mustard for the crap sandwich.


27 posted on 06/20/2013 7:15:10 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: SeminoleCounty

The major, ‘kink’, in this entire effort, is who does the responsibility fall to to enforce any new immigration bill??? HHHHmmmmmmmmmm?

That’s right, Barack Odumbo and we all know how he feels on this subject.

Marco can pass all of the amendments that he wants to and none of it will mean squat. With a few reasoned EOs, Od can
end up enforcing this new law any ole way that he wants to.

Hey Marco, for the final time, you are being USED. Wise up and drop this turd like the stinker it is.


28 posted on 06/20/2013 7:23:36 PM PDT by Delta Dawn
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To: willk
I wonder what the dems have on Rubio.

Pix of marco fellating a goat.

29 posted on 06/20/2013 7:44:28 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The republicans are the equivalent of Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.

The democrats are Lucy who is always pulling away the football.

Like Charlie Brown, the GOP never learns.

The dems told Reagan in 1986 that border security would happen if Reagan approved amnesty. Reagan went along with amnesty for 3 million illegals, but border security didn’t happen.

The dems told George H. Bush that spending cuts would happen if he broke his pledge to not raise taxes.
George H. raised taxes, but the dems never cut spending.

How many times are the pubbies going to allow themselves to be played the fool?


30 posted on 06/20/2013 8:14:13 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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31 posted on 06/20/2013 8:35:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"...conservatives such as John Cornyn..."

WTF?

32 posted on 06/20/2013 10:33:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: originalbuckeye
Wake up, Rubio, or switch Parties!

Ahem.....Rubio is fully awake, and has already switched parties. He just hasn't said it out loud.

33 posted on 06/20/2013 10:35:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Delta Dawn
Marco, for the final time, you are being USED.

I don't think he's being used at all. I think he's finally showing his true colors, now that he's a part of the GOP-e.

34 posted on 06/20/2013 10:40:07 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Marco the Rube" will NOT get off the stage.

GET the HOOK!

35 posted on 06/20/2013 10:47:27 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: SeekAndFind

hey Rubio,
Bite me pal.


36 posted on 06/21/2013 3:52:50 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Reddon

I voted for this dolt last time since he ran basically unopposed in the primary. I won’t again.


37 posted on 06/21/2013 8:09:38 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

And at first opportunity, Harry Reid will hold future funding for all that promised border security hostage, in exchange for “revenue enhancements.”

It’ll be oh-so-convenient.


38 posted on 06/21/2013 8:20:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rubio,


39 posted on 06/21/2013 8:25:56 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The border fence must be first. If not we'll have illegals flooding our country like never before since they know the border will be more secure and they'll lose out on gaining citizenship.

Second, illegals should have to renounce the citizenship of their home country before they can become American citizens.

40 posted on 06/21/2013 9:43:51 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

The Republicans should never make deals with Democrats, just forward a bill and let the Democrats take the heat from the American people.


41 posted on 06/21/2013 9:46:01 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Crucial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reQZhfmZoWk


42 posted on 06/21/2013 1:03:24 PM PDT by Paladin2 (;-))
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To: Paladin2

I know that there’s a portion of fence that has a sizable gap. That gap is there to allow some critter to migrate back and forth. It’s just ridiculous.


43 posted on 06/22/2013 12:54:03 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rubio, you are a racist. You can skirt all around the so-called immigration crisis, but your bottom line is let your Latino brothers in no matter what good they can do for this Nation. You operate from a racist viewpoint and losing your core. Good.


44 posted on 06/22/2013 3:31:13 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Apparently tens of millions of conservatives, if there are that many, consider Rubio of them still. They must be uninformed or easily fooled.


45 posted on 06/23/2013 11:18:05 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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