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Documentary aims to 'break silence' on crash of TWA Flight 800
CNN ^ | 6/19/13 | Mike Ahlers

Posted on 06/19/2013 5:43:06 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55

A coming documentary on the 1996 TWA Flight 800 disaster offers "solid proof that there was an external detonation," Tom Stalcup, a co-producer of the documentary, told CNN's "New Day" on Wednesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 800; crash; flight; twa; twa800
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1 posted on 06/19/2013 5:43:06 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

I was too young to remember this happening.. but I’m sure there are many Freepers with a lot of theories.


2 posted on 06/19/2013 5:43:42 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

There hasn’t been silence about Flight 800...there’s been a mountain of lies about Flight 800.


3 posted on 06/19/2013 5:44:29 AM PDT by pgkdan (Marco Rubio can go straight to hell!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I’m still wondering who was on that flight that it was taken out the way it was.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 5:45:23 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

A lot of theories without any proof.


5 posted on 06/19/2013 5:45:40 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: ConservativeMan55

We knew at the time they fabricating a story. They could not have it be a terrorist attack.


6 posted on 06/19/2013 5:45:40 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: ConservativeMan55

Not a lot of theories on what happened - most are convinced it was a missle that brought the plane down. (based on an overwhelming amount of evidence.) The wide speculation is over who may have fired that missle.


7 posted on 06/19/2013 5:45:58 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: ConservativeMan55

I never bought the exploding fuel tank business, it was almost surely shot down.


8 posted on 06/19/2013 5:46:10 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: servo1969

In ref to your earlier post..


9 posted on 06/19/2013 5:46:13 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: ConservativeMan55

A co-worker at the time lost a relative on that flight and days after the funeral she swore up and down that flight 800 had been shot out of the sky,,,,,at the time everyone just brushed it off as her being in mourning.


10 posted on 06/19/2013 5:47:39 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: rockabyebaby

Wow.

Sounds like maybe a manpad?


11 posted on 06/19/2013 5:48:55 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55
I remember it well; A cover-up from the get-go. Funny how all of a sudden this Clinton-area skeleton is floating to the surface, at the same time that the Clinton-Obama rift is growing.

Payback's a b!tch. Looks like the gloves are coming off. Arkansas Mafia vs. The Chicago Way...

Popcorn anyone?

12 posted on 06/19/2013 5:51:37 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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Wasnt the date significant for Saddam Hussein??? some sort of iraq thingy?


13 posted on 06/19/2013 5:52:21 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Perdogg

Evidence was suppressed...


14 posted on 06/19/2013 5:52:36 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Remember........
Our good buddy the Shah had US MADE AA missiles for the F-15s we sold him. The were dual-purpose in that they could also be use onboard ships.
They had large warheads for the BIG Soviet bombers.
The Mullahs would have JUST LOVED to use a US-built missile on one of our own planes.
And did.


15 posted on 06/19/2013 5:54:36 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: Perdogg

as if anyone was able to get the clinton govt to tell the truth

some very brave people were slandered ridiculed and persecuted some would say threatened for seeking the truth


16 posted on 06/19/2013 5:55:07 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: ConservativeMan55

my neighbor is an air traffic controller - his opinion and those of his co-workers is that it was clearly shot down -im of the same opinion based on witness testimony


17 posted on 06/19/2013 5:55:55 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: Flintlock

I think you meant F-14’s
not sure about your aam missile theory


18 posted on 06/19/2013 5:56:33 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Gee!

Who remembers the quickly vanished news reports of those eyewitnesses who were out in the Bay???


19 posted on 06/19/2013 5:56:35 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Flintlock
Our good buddy the Shah had US MADE AA missiles for the F-15s(sic) we sold him.

The Shah was never sold F-15s.

20 posted on 06/19/2013 5:57:07 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

bump


21 posted on 06/19/2013 5:59:05 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ConservativeMan55

I remember it and I never thought of it as an accident.


22 posted on 06/19/2013 6:00:33 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Possible payback for the shoot down of Iran Air Flt:655?


23 posted on 06/19/2013 6:03:19 AM PDT by Kahuna
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Airline pilots and plane mechanics never bought that theory either.


24 posted on 06/19/2013 6:04:49 AM PDT by goldi
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To: ConservativeMan55

I don’t believe this will ever be reopened.

The government has too much to lose by doing so.
It was always my perception there was criminal activity at the highest levels of the investigation.


25 posted on 06/19/2013 6:05:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I remember it. There was supposed to be some video of an external hit. It never came to light though.


26 posted on 06/19/2013 6:07:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: DoughtyOne

Oklahoma city will never be re-opened either.


27 posted on 06/19/2013 6:09:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: DoughtyOne
I don’t believe this will ever be reopened.

The government has too much to lose by doing so.

They are going to get to this one right after that "Amelia Earhart" thingy. Promise.

28 posted on 06/19/2013 6:11:04 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: ConservativeMan55

Maybe two of them - probably fired by some Amish fellows....


29 posted on 06/19/2013 6:11:27 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: pgkdan

it seems pretty amazing that of the millions of flights
this is the only one that had this problem


30 posted on 06/19/2013 6:11:48 AM PDT by genghis
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

How do you know the evidence existed if it had been suppressed?


31 posted on 06/19/2013 6:12:02 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Is this just more agitprop to distract the masses from all the Obama corruption and scandals?


32 posted on 06/19/2013 6:14:57 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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To: Flintlock

Iran never had f 15s. They had F 14 Tomcats. They had the Phoenix Missle system. It was too sophisticated for the towlies to operate without our technical support or spare parts. Certainly non of them were in operational condition since the overthrow of the Shaw in 1979, 17 years earlier.


33 posted on 06/19/2013 6:15:28 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Jack Cashill did a good documentary years ago. Here is an article from 2009 with links to the video.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/reopen_the_twa_flight_800_case.html


34 posted on 06/19/2013 6:15:43 AM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

There were a million reasons to not buy the govt. story. But here’s one. The so-called “investigation” walked like a coverup, quacked like a coverup, in fact was indistinguishable from a coverup. Down to who actually did the investigating. If memory serves the usual procedures weren’t followed but a “special” investigative procedure was. A bit like how JFK had to be autopsied in DC despite established procedures called for the autopsy to be in Dallas. Pretty accurate analogy.

If you’ve got something to hide take control of the “investigation” and do it in a time, place and with people that you completely control.

Of course, there are plenty of other reasons to doubt the fuel tank theory - this is just one of many.


35 posted on 06/19/2013 6:16:12 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s right.


36 posted on 06/19/2013 6:17:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: Don Corleone

That’s about it...


37 posted on 06/19/2013 6:17:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Speaker John Boehner (R) no (D) no (R)... has more waffles than IHOP.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Sounds like maybe a manpad?

Yes, a lot of people swear that is how it went down.

There was a whole lot of conflicting information and IIRC a lot of the families had to wait a long time to get the remains of their loved one(s) and lie after lie was being told about the cause of the "accident". My former co-worker didn't have anything to say about this until days after she came back from the funeral. She said she was convinced the plane was shot out of the air, that the parents of her friend were convinced everyone on board was murdered and that the government was "screwing them around". I remember that phrase because the co-worker said it with such passion and disgust and insisted for days that the flight was shot out of the air. Most of the other coworkers kinda just chalked this up to her being distraught at the loss of her friend, they grew up together, were like sisters, did everything together, in fact IIRC they were roommates at the time. She was never the same after that and she was terrified to fly.

I remember it so clearly because we sat across from each other and she used to tell me all the time that she was afraid to fly and the parents of her friend were just plain afraid period because they knew the government was covering this up and they wanted answers as to why their "baby girl" (she was in her 20's) was murdered and why the government wasn't telling them the truth.

38 posted on 06/19/2013 6:19:47 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

A ny cop I know said that night a fax came to the dept that warned of a stolen boat that the missle was shot from. Another cop told me he talked to an FBI diver and he said a missile took down the plane.

Here’s something else I was told. Flight 800 took the takeoff time because the plane to Israel was having trouble.


39 posted on 06/19/2013 6:20:13 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Anyone know the particulars about this documentary? Will it be on regular TV, cable, YouTube? I’d like to see it because it was pretty clear at the time there was a massive coverup going on to help Clinton get re-elected. The Benghazi cluster before Obama’s re-election kind of reminded me of it...


40 posted on 06/19/2013 6:22:58 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Kozak

‘Scuse me - if memory serves, the F-14s we sold Iran NEVER had Phoenix capability. Very big difference.


41 posted on 06/19/2013 6:24:22 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I will always believe that it was terrorist..Lots of people on the ground and also pilots saw something coming from the ground a bright light.

The pilot of Eastwind 507, David McLain, sees a bright light. He assumes that its landing lights, even though the source appears to be high up in the sky. He further assumes that the landing lights are “coming right at us” because landing lights are highly directional, focused out in front of the aircraft.

But given that other people on other bearings ALSO saw the light, then it could not be directional landing lights of another aircraft. The light had to be from another source.

This confirms the presence of a bright white light near the doomed 747 prior to the actual explosion.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/AUDIO.html


42 posted on 06/19/2013 6:25:41 AM PDT by PLD
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To: ConservativeMan55

The other telling thing for me (besides the eyewitnesses) is how the entire airline industry never bought the Easter Bun... err the center fuel tank story. And how come no center fuel tank had ever exploded before or since, hmmm?


43 posted on 06/19/2013 6:25:44 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: longfellow

So here is a stupid question, based on what you said: is it at all possible it was a Palestinian plot to take down an Isreali jet that went wrong? That would explain why no one took credit and also why it was covered up. No way would Israel meet at Camp David with Arafat after that...


44 posted on 06/19/2013 6:26:30 AM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: ConservativeMan55

My guess is, the movie will be based off the Nelson Demille book, Night Fall.

I’m not sure whether I fully buy the conspiracy, but it was a compelling book.

I DO remember... that this was a time when Bill Clinton DID NOT WANT a terrorist attack. No way. It would mean we’d HAVE To DO SOMETHING.


45 posted on 06/19/2013 6:29:36 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them f)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Maybe the truce between the two camps of liars and pro terrorists, the Obama Thugs and the Clintoon thugs is over:

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20130619/US—TWA.Flight.800/

NEW YORK (AP) — Former investigators of the TWA Flight 800 crash off Long Island are calling on the National Transportation Safety Board to re-examine the case.

The retired investigators claim that findings were “falsified.” A documentary on the subject is coming out in July.


46 posted on 06/19/2013 6:36:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ('How empty and dead' were they to let Chris Stevens, one of them , die for 'Obama-Clinton fiction?')
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To: ConservativeMan55
"solid proof that there was an external detonation,"

There was always proof that it was shot down, but the questions have always been by whom and what for? Some have speculated that a Klinton enemy that had to be eliminated was on board, others that it was a terrorist attack. Bubba's administration orchestrated a cover up.

47 posted on 06/19/2013 6:39:18 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Jesus, Please Save America!)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I was too young to remember this happening.. but I’m sure there are many Freepers with a lot of theories.

Several eyewitnesses saw the missile and their stories were brushed off and/or not documented in official reports.

As always, Freepers were not buying the coverup.

48 posted on 06/19/2013 6:39:20 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: pgkdan

Those are not “lies” as we usually understand the word.

One of the primary functions of the Federal government is to define the truth.


49 posted on 06/19/2013 6:41:28 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

“I was too young to remember this happening.. but I’m sure there are many Freepers with a lot of theories.”

The link below is a search of posts on TWA 800 on Free Republic. There was/is more data and good questions on TWA 800 than other so called news sites.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/twa800/index


50 posted on 06/19/2013 6:43:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ('How empty and dead' were they to let Chris Stevens, one of them , die for 'Obama-Clinton fiction?')
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