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Breaking: House passes nationwide 20-week ban on abortion (includes full roll call vote)
Life Site News ^ | June 18, 2013 | BEN JOHNSON

Posted on 06/18/2013 6:20:23 PM PDT by NYer

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To: campaignPete R-CT
Ah, thank you for pointing that out. Yes, I see it there in the article, and knew there must be a rational explanation.

Still... if we can save 95% or 0%... which is better?

21 posted on 06/18/2013 8:09:57 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: NYer
Collin Peterson of Minnesota

...knows he's in for a very tough re-election fight due to having voted for DeathCare. He's vulnerable.

22 posted on 06/18/2013 8:10:07 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: NYer

Well, that’ll stir up the ants.

{ Waving to the the ANThropomorphized termites in the peanut gallery }


23 posted on 06/18/2013 8:10:58 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Lexinom

“if we can save 95% or 0%” of pro-lifers from becoming morons ... which is better?

I’m waiting for Judie Brown to issue a scathing attack on the Congressmen who voted ‘yes’.


24 posted on 06/18/2013 8:20:02 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: TArcher
Who are the ants and who are the termites?
25 posted on 06/18/2013 8:24:10 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Explain, please.


26 posted on 06/18/2013 8:25:00 PM PDT by Lexinom
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JUDIE BROWN already attacking this bill 7 1/2 years ago:
Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kansas), with the encouragement of some national pro-life groups, introduced the bill (S.51) in the Senate last week. “Pro-lifers need to wake up and recognize that the more we concede, the further we are from really saving women and children from the tragedy of abortion,” said Brown. “Abortion is a violent act that must never be condoned, supported, promoted or excused. Because of this undeniable truth, American Life League cannot favor such a flawed concept as the one that is represented in the Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act.”

God save us from the A.L.L. morons.
http://www.all.org/article/index/id/NDk5/


27 posted on 06/18/2013 8:26:20 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: little jeremiah
Do you think states should have the right, under the 10th amendment, ....

Actually, it's the Fed that doesn't have that authority under the 10th Amendment. The Constitution is silent on abortion, and so should be the Federal Government.

Don't like the Constitution??? Change it.
28 posted on 06/18/2013 8:33:21 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: NYer

This vote will mean nothing as far a law getting passed but it will provide an emotional “wedge issue” to keep Pro-Life supporters loyal to the GOP.

Voter guides will be published describing all those who voted for this as “Pro-Life” yet most abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.

In the past, the Pro-Life voter guides distributed at election time by the National Right To Life and its affiliates would describe someone who wanted abortion legal early in a pregnancy when 90 percent plus of them occur as “Pro-Abortion”.

Next year those who believe abortion should be legal early in pregnancy and are Pro-Abortion but voted for this will get “Pro-Life” labels put on them by the National Right To Life which has become a tool of the GOP Establishment.


29 posted on 06/18/2013 8:50:56 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Lexinom
>>Who are the ants and who are the termites?
 
Good question.  Observe that in both species the majority of members are asexual disposable workers and only the Royalty is allowed to directly reproduce.
 
This is the social model that is self-evident in Postgenderist/Transhumanist doctrine and the occult abomination of nature therein -- where we "breeders" are just an inconvenience to be tolerated until the Übertermites can perfect their frankenscience.

{ isn't that right peanuts? }

30 posted on 06/18/2013 8:51:29 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: NYer

Immoral, unconstitutional, lawless legislation.


31 posted on 06/18/2013 8:53:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (John Boehner and the Republican Party: A wholly-owned subsidiary of Democrats, Inc.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Perry has a good image with his military service and promotes himself as a Patriot but I knew him as a loyal party man supporting the machine early in his political life.

He also backed away from supporting an ultrasound before an abortion bill in the state legislature that Pro-Abortion people were crying foul over.

That led to meetings with Pro-Life people to reassure them he was Pro-Life.

But in the early days Perry was loyal lieutenant of both the party chairman in York County (the late John Thompson Sr.) and former State Rep. Bruce Smith who Perry replaced in 2007.

Both those guys were hardcore Pro-Abortion.


32 posted on 06/18/2013 8:56:50 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Nextrush; Lexinom

by golly, maybe Nextrush is right. All the Representatives who voted ‘yes’ on this bill need to be defeated in 2014.

Make sense, Lex?


33 posted on 06/18/2013 8:57:15 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: Amendment10

You are dead on.

This is a Karl Rove “wedge issue” to keep the religious conservative voters on the GOP plantation.


34 posted on 06/18/2013 8:58:11 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: rottndog
The Constitution is silent on abortion, and so should be the Federal Government. Don't like the Constitution??? Change it.

The Constitution imperatively, explicitly, requires the equal protection of the right to life of every person. No exceptions.

"No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law."

"No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

And its ultimate stated purpose is "to secure the Blessings of Liberty to Posterity."

pos·ter·i·ty
/päˈsteritē/

Noun
All future generations.

Synonyms
progeny - issue - offspring

Don't like the Constitution??? Change it.

35 posted on 06/18/2013 9:02:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (John Boehner and the Republican Party: A wholly-owned subsidiary of Democrats, Inc.)
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To: rottndog

Abortion is covered under the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Abortion is depriving a human being of life without due process. So it IS covered.


36 posted on 06/18/2013 9:22:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

over here on the “pro-life legislation passed today” thread


37 posted on 06/18/2013 9:22:45 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: little jeremiah; All
Do you think states should have the right, under the 10th amendment, to legalize murder of those already born? Or just those not born yet?

Abortion is murder. But as evidenced by my previous post, I don't think that conservatives in Congress are serious about the bill, incumbents just using it to win votes for 2014 imo. If it passes the Senate then please send me a note.

Regarding the murder of those already born, and with all due respect to family and supporters of the late Terry Schiavo, the Supreme Court properly regarded her euthenasia as a state power issue imo. But as a consequence of probably not understanding 10th Amendment protected state sovereignty, I would be surprized if Florida voters have worked with their state's lawmakers to make Florida's life & death laws more compassionate for people like Terri.

Again, one of the main reasons that we are having problems with tyrannical federal and state governments is because low-information voters are not aware of the Founding States' division of federal and state government powers evidenced by the Constitution's Section 8 of Article I, Article V and the 10th Amendment.

38 posted on 06/18/2013 9:29:29 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; randita; Viennacon; GeronL; ...

Jim Matheson voted “AYE”, someone is ascared. Unless I was mistaken in thinking him ‘pro-choice’.

“Republicans who voted against the bill include Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia, Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania, Rodney Frelinghuysen of New Jersey, Richard Hanna of New York, Jon Runyan of New Jersey, and Rob Woodall of Georgia.”

What’s up with those GA libertarians? Broun is running for the Senate.

Spurs choked, the LeBums are gonna win.


39 posted on 06/18/2013 9:45:46 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I don’t know. I haven’t been following the news lately as closely as you have. I’m losing my home.


40 posted on 06/18/2013 9:51:24 PM PDT by Lexinom
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