Posted on 06/17/2013 7:30:44 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
Sup Ct strikes down AZ law requiring proof of US citizenship for those seeking to vote in fed election. 7-2
(Excerpt) Read more at supremecourt.gov ...
Interesting stuff. Kudos to you for that work! Seems like we need more education on the system somehow.
I think Holder hates the whole country, except for certain parts of NYC and DC. He understands the value of words alright, like “I don’t know”.
I agree completely that it is an unthinkable breach of public trust that the feds, indeed members of Congress on both sides of the aisle, have failed to articulate - in the face of overwhelming evidence of fraud - that voters be compelled to prove citizenship before voting in elections.
SCOTUS decision reflects their view that one absurdity does not deserve another. Separation of powers must be maintained, and Scalia specifically does not want to legislate from the bench.
It is not his job. Roe v Wade is proof enough of the damage that causes, but there are numerous other examples of that.
Wait until gay marriage comes before the court, and pray that Scalia, and others, are consistent in the idea that legislating is the job of the legislative branch.
It’s a psychological disorder called “catastrophism”. It has the effect of rendering the person helpless. I suspect it’s an effect of the infantilization going on in our government schools.
Or perhaps they’re trolls sent to demoralize our cause. I see a lot of opportunities out there for conservatives. Particularly within the urban vote. Cull a bit of that and statewide races become winnable.
There is a difference between having a different opinion and being right or wrong. Judges render opinions.
In appellate courts there can be majority opinions and minority opinions. There are not “right” opinions and “wrong” opinions.
To say the states use federal forms is not a valid reason; it’s a flimsy excuse. Wonder what the real reason for them to vote insanely is?
Good question!
Maybe by “free” you meant “honest”.
We certainly don’t have them, they’ve been tainted for a while but now they’ve been poisoned to death.
People see the headline without reading the decision.
Because thats all they want to see,,,just the headline.
And that is the root of the problem; The notion that right and wrong are subjective "opinions."
I don't have time to go into it now, but long ago I worked up a philosophical basis for objective morality, and that it is a function of the ability of life to endure. You could refer to it as "Natural law" if you prefer. Any answer which results in a weakening of survivability is a WRONG answer.
You should read some Edmund Burke.
Thanks ConservativeMan55.
Left Loses Big in Citizenship-Verification Supreme Court Case
PJ Media | June 17, 2013 | J. Christian Adams
Posted on 06/17/2013 8:03:34 PM PDT by jazusamo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3032524/posts
I regard it as an axiomatic condition of franchise, in the same manner such that living and breathing are unmentioned self-evident prerequisites to voting. Given the current logic of the court, if a state made breathing a requirement, the court could, using the same arguments, strike that down as well.
SCOTUS decision reflects their view that one absurdity does not deserve another. Separation of powers must be maintained, and Scalia specifically does not want to legislate from the bench.
I "get" the Scalia argument, I'm just saying it has no basis in this particular case. There is much talk about "common law" on these threads, and it appears to me that it is an understood aspect of American common law that the requirement that one be a citizen is, and has always been a requirement to voting in an election.
The enumeration of such a requirement does not infringe or impose on Federal authority, because this is a point which is not subject to Federal authority. It is a characteristic of natural law. It is an existential condition of any government.
It is not his job. Roe v Wade is proof enough of the damage that causes, but there are numerous other examples of that.
Wait until gay marriage comes before the court, and pray that Scalia, and others, are consistent in the idea that legislating is the job of the legislative branch.
The courts have long ago lost their mind AND their moral authority. I now regard it as our duty to denounce and undermine the court system at every opportunity. We need to declare it illegitimate, and heap ridicule upon it.
We should fear it's power, but we should no longer respect it's moral authority. We should regard it as the circus it has become.
As I mentioned above, if the State passed a law which required "breathing", the Supreme court, by the same logic, could strike down that law too.
They have simply entered the twilight zone.
The fallacy in your theory is the notion that elections matter any more. Financial rot is likely going to destroy us before any correction through elections can even get started. The last election was, I think, the point at which we kicked the chair away with a noose around our necks.
We could barely have repaired the damage from the last four years of this guy, I suspect it will not be possible to repair the damage from another four years. A lot of people are now advocating the "let in burn" theory.
Protect yourself and your family, strengthen community ties, and get ready for some serious financial shocks.
Dear Mr. David Axelrod,
This letter is in response to your missive of June 18 last. It was only at this point that I realized your FReeper pseudonym is DiogenesLamp.
Originally, your incessant negatism and harping had me suspecting you of being just a simple crank. That you would constantly work to attack the GOP Presidential candidate, the only viable alternative being the anti-American, pro-Sunni Islam Barak Hussein Obama, an open and notorious Cook County Democrat. It’s delicious irony that you’re actually his campaign gremlin, as least as far as Free Republic is concerned.
Your pseudonym is creative. I had originally thought it to be Diogenes of Athenian tub fame, you being in real life a simple cynic. I now see my error.
Your name is actually after the misnamed psychological disorder Diogenes syndrome. It was the “Lamp” portion of your name that threw me. I thought it was a normal lamp, one that shines forth light in dark places, yet you always bring darkness and fear to any light place.
That’s when I got it. Your lamp shines forth not with beautiful clarifying light, where our Lord and Savior said, “the darkness comprehendeth it not”, but instead your light is darkness.
Like Diogenes syndrome your intention is to bring about a stupor of thought and inactivity on the part of conservatives. Like the syndrome you’re named after you prefer extreme self-neglect, domestic squalor, social withdrawal, apathy, compulsive hoarding, and lack of shame. Your goal is conservative catatonia.
In this case it is conservatives and conservative ideals that you wish to make ill. Your lamp isn’t a cure, but a cause of the disease. The more conservatives you get to jump on the ‘third party’ bandwagon, withdraw from political activity, and abandon America, the easier your job becomes.
No, David, I for one will not go meekly into that dark night. I see a new sun rising, its silver lining even now outlines the gloom you and Obama have wrought. There still is an America and Americans who love her dearly. I won’t quit, not now, not ever.
I know that if conservatives can form coalitions with urban voters, perhaps at first only on the eonomic front, we can garner those votes and begin the necessary crippling of the Democratic Party and its criminal, totalitarian, and socialistic policies. Your lamp won’t spew darkness on my corner of America.
Be gone, out damned spot, out.
Sincerely,
1010RD (An American)
If you think the financial problems can be waved away, it is you who are in need of some enlightenment.
Your answer so far is "Dude, Don't bring me down." I would point out that it is generally the behavior of an ADULT to not hide from ugly truths by deflecting them with ad hominums.
We are seeing the encroachment of a STASI state, at the same time we are seeing massive runaway inflation. We are in debt to the tune of something like 100 trillion dollars, and YOU think you are communicating with an Obama stooge?
I'm beginning to feel a whole lot less like the father of cynicism and a lot more like Cassandra. I suspect I overestimated your competence and intelligence. It's a mistake i'm not likely to make a second time.
Sir, I empathize and agree.
I hate admitting this, but I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s, where the very worst thing there could be was a nuclear war, such that DC would be destroyed and the rest of the country left to be invaded by Russians, etc.
Now, I actually believed that if we dropped a nuclear weapon on DC, and preferrably a very large neutron device, something that killed people, but left the buildings standing, then it would be an answer to prayers.
It’s like these guys are stuck in some 1990’s coke-fueled binge. Solyndra - nobody talks about it anymore but it makes the MBS scandal look like small potatoes. A US president handed his political allies a half-billion dollars KNOWING they were going to blow out the business.
It’s one thing to award a contract to an ally with the understanding that the country needed what the ally was selling and that in the end you were helping a friend AND serving a legitimate national interest. Solyndra was just money laundering, and out in the open, and unchecked. Nothing happened.
If Jefferson and Madison were alive today, he’d be looking at us and shouting, “What the f*ck are you waiting for!?! Why aren’t they all dead yet???”
I think this is one reason Democrats put so much work into cheating. To them, politics is a business. It's how they make money for themselves and their allies. It's not about running the country for them, it's about personal financial enrichment.
If Jefferson and Madison were alive today, he’d be looking at us and shouting, “What the f*ck are you waiting for!?! Why aren’t they all dead yet???”
I won't be surprised if it eventually comes to this. Them or us anyway.
Good point. The election for state offices coincide with the election of major national offices. So, to vote for state offices, everyone will need to meet the state requirement for citizenship. Oh, the ballot will also have the candidates for congress and president.
Hey Rennes.... thought about your question again yesterday?
Is there any good news.... anywhere?!
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