Posted on 06/16/2013 8:32:57 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Politico’s Playbook has an excerpt from a new Ryan Lizza piece from the New Yorker that is not yet online. It contains a passage on the back-and-forth between labor and the Chamber that has a quote from a Rubio staffer that is going to raise eyebrows, to say the least:
“There are American workers who, for lack of a better term, can’t cut it. There shouldn’t be a presumption that every American worker is a star performer. There are people who just can’t get it, can’t do it, don’t want to do it. And so you can’t obviously discuss that publicly.”
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
Rubio’s CHIEF of STAFF is Cesar something who is a DEMOCRAT!! He’s ALWAYS worked for Democrats or Democrat LITE.....Rubio is either a Wolf in Sheep’s clothing, or a REALLY GULLIBLE SHEEP!
Rubio KNOWS this, and brings in MORE?
What a true NBC SOB?
AMEN...AMEN....AMEN!!!
It was bad enough to say Americans will not do certain work but to say that some primitive mexicans that come from hell holes and a corrupt and immoral society that puts little or no value to human life... can come here and do jobs that Americans are incapable of doing... is just anti-American propaganda from an anti-American liar named rubio.
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“There are people who just can’t get it, can’t do it, don’t want to do it. And so you can’t obviously discuss that publicly.”
Yeah, and we all know the illegals coming over the border are all experts in every field.
I’ve seen their work being in the building line myself. Most of it borders on a disaster. They are NOT tradesman. It’s all about the bottom line and nothing else.
These politicians have nothing but contempt for the citizens and taxpayers. They look only to preserve their place at the trough.
Rubio is finished. If he has an imbecile like this on his staff, it reflects his own beliefs on this issue.
So says the punk political aide, who couldn’t hold a job anywhere.
Have any of you had the misfortune of seeing these types? They are weasels. Watch the video of Al Franken trying to avoid being interviewed and you’ll see what I mean.
I used to deal with these types a lot when I worked in Baghdad. What a waste of taxpayer money. But, then you see firsthand why these politicians are they way they are.
You have correctly identified the problem on this thread: two subjects are being intermingled, and that’s no way to discuss or solve a problem.
Taken in the context of illegal immigration, Rubio’s remarks rightly rankle.
Taken as a comment on the sad state of our society, they are right on.
And you, sir, apparently know very little about agriculture. It is already highly modernized, but there are just some things that machines can’t do. As long as affordable labor is eager to do that work, everybody benefits.
The problem is that this is not your grandfather’s America, and those folks Rubio was talking about aren’t about to get dirty and sweaty and miserable enough to harvest those crops. Unless, of course, you pay them high union wages.
In which case, you can’t afford the product.
It’s a mess, but it’s not going to be solved properly until a bunch of us quit spouting bromides and deal with facts.
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We have a significant and growing portion of the population living on the public dole who *do* refuse to work, so Rubio’s aide isn’t entirely wrong.
But the solution to that is to cast off the parasites and make them work to survive like normal people, not import those who are willing to mow lawns, pick lettuce and do roofing. Force our own to take those jobs — or starve.
We know what they will do, of course. They will turn to crime, or they will riot. And so we give them bread and circuses.
Worked so well for empires past. I’m sure we’ll be different!
Rubio is the GOP version of Obama
1. Comes from out of nowhere after a life on the Govt payroll
2. Promises to be a “New Kind” of leader, etc
3. Despite being an adult of naïve and green and incompetent
4. Speaks in poll tested cliché and pap
5. Plays on his background for support of things that are detrimental to average working guy
Not thanks - No Rubio - No Jeb - No McCain - No Grahamnesty - No Beohner
Nope, sorry. There’s a lot of automation in agriculture that could be done—including around the picking of crops—that hasn’t, because we’ve got cheap Mexican labor.
And I’ve been involved in farming for decades.
The cost of labor in agriculture should be the same as it is in the rest of our economy: what legals and Americans are willing to do it for. That’s the free market. Period. End of story.
Of course not.
The right thing to do is to require labor in exchange for any type of government assistance. You don’t work, you don’t eat, and you don’t get a Section 8 roof over your head. And the work you are given may not be to your liking, an incentive to learn how to do something more productive.
Quit giving union preferance for government contracts. Require that government contractors use the unemployed for unskilled jobs in those contracts. Quit throwing money at job training programs and put them to work cleaning offices and pouring concrete so they get experience and see the need to work their way up and out.
Same thing for unemployment compensation. Public work for public pay, with allowances for time-off to job hunt in your field.
Reduce the public payroll with subsistence jobs in exchange for minimum wage and basic government-supplied food and housing. Shrink government and put strings on benefits.
Write and pass a strict guest worker program that legalizes those workers we need for jobs going unfilled — put them on the books, paying taxes and into Social Security.
There are creative and workable answers to our dilemma, but hating Mexicans isn’t one of them. Ugly truth that nobody wants to admit is that Mexicans work their tails off while a lot of Americans sit on their butts wanting Uncle Sam to provide them a cell phone and food stamps.
That’s the root cause of the mess we’re in today. Can you imagine our underclass going to Mexico and surviving? Yet their underclass comes here and thrives. No government programs in Mexico, manual labor here.
You’re wrong about Mexicans on US government welfare. All they get is public education (which is a huge problem) and food stamps if the kids were born here and they’re below the poverty level. (Usually happens when the father’s construction or day labor dries up due to economy or bad weather.)
Nobody wants to tell the truth about these issues. It’s easier to blame Mexicans than to admit that half of our country would be up in arms if my suggestions were put forward.
Ugly, and I wish it were not true. But it is. I work in a position that sees it up close.
We’re both in agriculture, and I agree wholeheartedly with what you said:
“The cost of labor in agriculture should be the same as it is in the rest of our economy: what legals and Americans are willing to do it for. That’s the free market. Period. End of story.”
The problem is that I believe crops will die in the field before you’ll get unskilled Americans to work that hard. You have a higher opinion of our labor force than I do, which is where this discussion began.
Okay. Assuming you're referring to those who'd rather sling dope, get high, screw like rats -- and in their 'spare time', Kill Seven and Wound 45 others during a Chicago weekend while living of taxpayers (whew!), the answer is not to *legalize* another 11 to 20 or 30 Million subgroup of underclass of uneducated, largely illiterate, people.
A people who look at All Law in the USA as something that's to be ignored just because they feel like it. And that goes all the way down to the little 'Broken Window' things that ruin a neighborhood. And why do they do that? Simple -- that's 'their culture', to wit: "We don't have those things in Mexico".
Not to mention the other little fact that like 'Obama's sons' they get on the Welfare bandwagon once here, and asap. The illegal dad or mom may not be getting a check or EBT card but their spawn sure the hell is getting taxpayer benefits in some form.
Case in point; In my old neighborhood in Chi there's so many of them that new Elem and High Schools had to be built and additions made to existing schoolsa. And the 'hood went from Middle Class to a Below poverty level Barrio full of Gang-bangers!
So not only no to this nonsense, but hell no. And Rubio can kiss my asso.
a: This is why the Blacks are screaming Racism over the 50 school closings in their 'hoods.
We manage to get our trash picked up just fine. Farm land will continue to be well used in this country by paying market wages. Laborers will be paid better, there will be some more automation, and perhaps some of the land will be shifted to different crops.
What makes you think agriculture should be exempt from our market economy?
So what? if the farmer wasn't willing to pay enough for his crop to be picked he shouldn't have planted it in the first place. This makes other farmers more profitable and able to pay the slightly higher wage. It is called supply and demand.
But, now, it's time for him to go and take his aids with him.
I have never seen a guy with a total political death wish before. Its fascinating.
Feel free to cite examples of your own in the private sector.
Hypocrite bastard.
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