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Obama snoops part 2: infiltrate, target, harass churches
http://www.examiner.com ^ | june 14, 2013 | Anthony Martin

Posted on 06/15/2013 7:44:02 AM PDT by lowbridge

On Thursday the Examiner provided an exclusive report indicating that the Obama administration had implemented a covert program beginning in 2009 that was intended to spy on conservative, evangelical Christian churches.

That program involved infiltration -- sending in government operatives to join churches for the purpose of data collection. The government snoops would keep their eyes and ears open for criticism of the Obama administration, talk of Tea Party participation, conversations about gun ownership, and a number of other issues.

But a special report issued today by Fox News indicates that the program went far beyond infiltration and snooping. The IRS was used to harass Christian churches if they were identified as places where large numbers of anti-Obama citizens congregated for worship.

The Obama administration, according to the report, considered any public criticism of administration policies to be political in nature and should therefore impact whether or not these congregations were allowed to gain or keep their tax exempt status.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benghazi; churches; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; irsscandal; obama; sourcetitlenoturl
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1 posted on 06/15/2013 7:44:02 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

but yet Mosques teaching hate is fine


2 posted on 06/15/2013 7:47:44 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: lowbridge

No wonder they didn’t catch the Boston bombers.

Instead of going undercover and keeping tabs on radical mosques, they “infiltrate” go after “radical” pro-life Evangelical Churches.


3 posted on 06/15/2013 7:49:17 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: lowbridge

God will get this puke one day!!!!!


4 posted on 06/15/2013 7:50:27 AM PDT by PLD
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To: PLD

He’ll have to take him away from Satan first.


5 posted on 06/15/2013 7:53:17 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: lowbridge

I will say with this as with all scandals before this...

Does anyone here believe for one nanosecond that the GOP was unaware of this? Are we to believe that not a single SSenator or Congressman/woman got a complaint from an involved party or staffer about this? Really?

I mean were they not hired/elected as an opposition party? So can anyone justify the value of an opposition party that knows less than Hillary! about what is going on in EVERY department around them?


6 posted on 06/15/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: lowbridge

This is something the churches predicted long ago. Socialists are pretty predictable. Many are already aware that they will try to take away exemptions for tithing and charitable donations and tax the churches so that people will stop giving as much in order to make the churches suffer and collapse. This is a tactic straight from Satan’s playbook. The Leftists forget that the churches feed, clothe, and provide shelter and charity for the homeless and aid during times of catastrophes in addition to helping the elderly and visiting those in prison and other acts of kindness. They are only shooting themselves in the foot when their own government turns on them and has no use for them anymore. Everything about this administration is evil.


7 posted on 06/15/2013 7:54:33 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: PLD

I think that is who will get the puke after God is finished with him..God is a loving God but don’t mess with his people like this piece of dung is doing..


8 posted on 06/15/2013 7:59:47 AM PDT by PLD (Muzzy)
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To: Mrs.Z

Obama came into office with three goals:

1. Diminish the power of the US around the world.

2.Increase socialism and wealth transfer in the US.

3. Support the increase of Islamic power around the world.

He has taken many actions to work towards those goals.

One of the most telling illustrations of his intent was the speech to the UN 2 weeks after Benghazi still covering up with the youtube movie clip bs and saying that no one should say anything bad about Islam.

This week we found out that Mosques are not under surveillance.

What more is needed to show this guy is a traitor.

What will congress do...............................crickets


9 posted on 06/15/2013 8:00:03 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Since when does a tax exemption make a church, a church. This country was founded as a Christian nation before there was such a thing as tax exemptions.

Will the membership of believers fall apart and dis band over the loss of a tax exemption? Is that what churches have become?

This threat should bolster church membership and strengthen the bond between Christians. Tell them to take their exemptions, and stuff them. Taxing Christians is not going to get rid of Christianity. It’s preparing the way for Islam to “take over” be tring to eliminate Christians, just like many countries in the Middle East are doing.

Those who let a tax exemption scare them away from their beliefs weren’t true Christians anyway.


10 posted on 06/15/2013 8:06:39 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: lowbridge

If this report is true it should be the end for Obama. The appropriate House committee needs to look into this.


11 posted on 06/15/2013 8:06:47 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: lonevoice

ping


12 posted on 06/15/2013 8:15:34 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: Mrs.Z
No wonder they didn’t catch the Boston bombers.

Instead of going undercover and keeping tabs on radical mosques, they “infiltrate” go after “radical” pro-life Evangelical Churches.


13 posted on 06/15/2013 8:17:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ('How empty and dead' were they to let Chris Stevens, one of them , die for 'Obama-Clinton fiction?')
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To: lowbridge

This has been going on for decades.

Liberal churches can have left wing rats discuss and push left wing bs from pulpits with no problem.

However, if a conservative did that, the church might lose their tax free status.

During the Clinton/Monica blowup, I asked our priest to say that was wrong from the pulpit. He told me that if he did, he could endanger the churches tax free status.

He told me to discuss this in private with our Bishop, who was a friend and a conservative. I did and the Bishop confirmed what our priest had said.


14 posted on 06/15/2013 8:23:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ('How empty and dead' were they to let Chris Stevens, one of them , die for 'Obama-Clinton fiction?')
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To: lowbridge

In communist Poland they used to send their agents into the Catholic churches in order to infiltrate them, but those darned agents kept getting converted.


15 posted on 06/15/2013 8:26:14 AM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: lowbridge
Americans should forget everything that the Obama administration and the RINOs have to say about PRISM and this surveillance of all Americans...and forget what their appointees have to say. Instead, listen to what this 40 year career NSA individual has to say, William Benny, who became the Director of the Intelligence Division at the NSA, managing over 6,000 analysts, and has personal knowledge of this program's capabilities.

Former Director of NSA Intelligence reveals the full extent of PRISM capabilities. MUST SEE!

Another William Benny interview about PRISM and the NSA

This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, and at this point, I am afraid only a general uprising by the American people themselves will be able to stop it.


SNOWDEN, PRISM AND THE NSA

16 posted on 06/15/2013 9:02:29 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: lowbridge
That program involved infiltration -- sending in government operatives to join churches for the purpose of data collection. The government snoops would keep their eyes and ears open for criticism of the Obama administration, talk of Tea Party participation, conversations about gun ownership, and a number of other issues.

But a special report issued today by Fox News indicates that the program went far beyond infiltration and snooping. The IRS was used to harass Christian churches if they were identified as places where large numbers of anti-Obama citizens congregated for worship.

There is a world of difference between undercover agents infiltrating an organization such as the Ku Klux Klan or the Communist Party to uncover criminality and government infiltration of other organizations, such as churches and, yes, even mosques to uncover political activity. The former(criminality) is not constitutionally protected, in fact it is illegal, and the latter most certainly is constitutionally protected.

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241

Conspiracy Against Rights

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/federal-statutes#section247

This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same).

It further makes it unlawful for two or more persons to go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another with the intent to prevent or hinder his/her free exercise or enjoyment of any rights so secured.

Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to ten years, or both; and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years, or for life, or may be sentenced to death.


17 posted on 06/15/2013 9:16:33 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: lowbridge
"Belshazzar"
18 posted on 06/15/2013 9:35:05 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long Oh LORD?)
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To: Slyfox
In communist Poland they used to send their agents into the Catholic churches in order to infiltrate them, but those darned agents kept getting converted.

Here in the U.S., too:

Bella Dodd -- From Communist to Catholic

19 posted on 06/15/2013 10:02:02 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There can be no dialogue with the prince of this world." -- Francis)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Beelzebub  photo Obamafly1_zpscc414b1d.jpg

Hebrew - Ba'al Zebub
Translation - Lord of Flies

How far we've fallen from the days when Thomas Jefferson and James Madison attended crowded church services held in the White House.

20 posted on 06/15/2013 10:06:23 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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