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So Why Didn't NSA Catch The Tsarnaev Brothers?
IBD EDITORIALS ^ | June 13, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 06/13/2013 4:43:22 PM PDT by raptor22

Security: With the director of national intelligence defending a program he told Congress didn't exist, the Patriot Act's author says this isn't the targeted surveillance intended and warns of losing needles in a too-big haystack.

Edward Snowden is quite possibly a traitor, but we have been caught in a Prism of our own making, outsourcing our national security to 29-year-old unstable contractors, one of nearly 500,000 employees of private firms with access to the government's most sensitive secrets.

Perhaps if we were doing the targeted surveillance envisioned by Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., when he wrote the Patriot Act, we wouldn't need so many potential security risks.

It boggles the mind that we didn't listen to the Russians when they warned about the Tsarnaev brothers in part because, well, they're the Russians. But we want to preserve the records of every housewife in Des Moines because data mining that arguably invades the privacy rights of innocent Americans might reveal something.

One person whose privacy was not invaded by U.S. intelligence was Tamerlan Tsarnaev, as he repeatedly visited the al-Qaida online magazine Inspire for its recipe "Build a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom."

The NSA's blanket surveillance did not detect Tsarnaev's interest in building the pressure cooker bombs he would use to devastating effect at the Boston Marathon. The massive databases that we are building a massive facility in Utah to store also failed to uncover the online communications that Tsarnaev had with a known Muslim extremist in Dagestan.

Sensenbrenner, who wrote and introduced the Patriot Act to Congress in 2001, says the National Security Agency overstepped its bounds by issuing the order to collect phone log records from millions of Americans.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; clapper; edwardsnowden; ibd; jamesclapper; nsa; patriotact; prism; surveillance; tsarnaev; verizon
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1 posted on 06/13/2013 4:43:22 PM PDT by raptor22
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To: raptor22

Because their cause was just in the opinion of the powers that be


2 posted on 06/13/2013 4:45:15 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: raptor22

Only one of them was a citizen, and only for a short time. Why would the NSA be spying on noncitizens, or people with connections to terrorists?


3 posted on 06/13/2013 4:45:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: raptor22
Because they were too busy looking for terrorists. You know. Gun-toting, bible thumping tea party patriots, especially armed veteran oath keepers.
4 posted on 06/13/2013 4:45:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: raptor22

Who has time for that when all them right wingers are running around loose?


5 posted on 06/13/2013 4:46:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: raptor22
So Why Didn't NSA Catch The Tsarnaev Brothers?

They were (are) studiously ignoring them and others like them.

6 posted on 06/13/2013 4:46:12 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well they did stop the Hutaree.......oh, wait. LOL

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/hutaree/index?tab=articles


7 posted on 06/13/2013 4:47:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: raptor22

Too busy looking for tea-partiers.


8 posted on 06/13/2013 4:47:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: raptor22

Because it’s not their job to catch people. That’s the FBI and now, DHS.


9 posted on 06/13/2013 4:49:25 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: raptor22

Because the purpose of the NSA center, as managed by Idi Amin Obama, is not security.

Somehow 12 millions ilegals know who to avoid the BP, the IRS, and the NSA.

The should teach.


10 posted on 06/13/2013 4:51:55 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: raptor22

Not Verizon customers? You know that is what Obama will say, and it will give him a reason to want to track EVERY phone company, if it isnt already being done


11 posted on 06/13/2013 4:52:38 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: raptor22
who says they didn't know???
12 posted on 06/13/2013 4:53:49 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: raptor22

.they were not members of the Tea Party or the Patriot Guard they were Muslim we do not profile Muslims at the NSA


13 posted on 06/13/2013 4:53:53 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 can we make it until 2016?)
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To: raptor22
Obama decided to tell Russia "Mind your own business".

We really rode the Russians about them going after the Chechan muzzies.

14 posted on 06/13/2013 4:54:16 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: raptor22
They were super secret and ultra-clever about it.

They didn't post jihadist videos on their Facebook accounts, for example.

Or do something stupid like murder three guys they knew.

The NSA did absolutely everything they could with that one.

15 posted on 06/13/2013 4:54:19 PM PDT by wideawake
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Better Question: Why didn’t they catch the 9/11 terrorists?

NSA was listening to bin Laden’s central command phone - for 3 years.
They tracked the known (to them) associates from Yemen to the US.
NSA monitored traffic and knew an attack was eminent.

Two of the terrorists stayed in a motel a couple of miles from NSA headquarters.

NSA had both the technological means and legal permission to stop them - and did not.

Why do they need more money, more tech and more legal authority?

BTW: NSA has had unfettered access to all communications data - phone, fax, internet - in the US for some time.

This is all in a documentary from NOVA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdPpdu8OGDQ


16 posted on 06/13/2013 4:55:07 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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I should have added that NSA listened in on conversations from the terrorist to the AQ command while they were in the US.


17 posted on 06/13/2013 4:56:00 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Jim Robinson
So Why Didn't NSA Catch The Tsarnaev Brothers?, Jim Robinson wrote:

Because they were too busy looking for terrorists. You know. Gun-toting, bible thumping tea party patriots, especially armed veteran oath keepers.

Bingo! Jim wins a free audit from IRS, and a free orifice exam by NSA.


18 posted on 06/13/2013 4:56:53 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ('How empty and dead' were they to let Chris Stevens, one of them , die for 'Obama-Clinton fiction?')
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To: raptor22
"So Why Didn't NSA Catch The Tsarnaev Brothers?..."

.... What are you talking about? ..... They DID catch them!!! .... Don't you remember the big shoot out and mayhem?

.... Of course it would have been a lot better if they caught them before they blew up all of those innocent people in Boston, But, as you know, prevention of terrorism isn't the NSA's strongest suit. Their strongest suit is similar to the IRS's strongest suit .... they are both tasked with the prevention and proliferation of Conservative causes and independent thought. You know ... destroying the same people and groups that prevent this country from developing a "One Party" political system that the Prez with a fez so desperately dreams of!

19 posted on 06/13/2013 4:57:58 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: raptor22

Obama didn’t want to?


20 posted on 06/13/2013 4:58:15 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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