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How to force the Republican Party to stop legalization of illegal aliens
American Thinker ^ | June 13, 2013 | Allan J. Favish

Posted on 06/13/2013 7:57:31 AM PDT by AJFavish

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"Citizenship" is the latino word for "pressure group."

Citizenship and welfare benefits are a small part of amnesty---get ready for zillions in foreign aid and other federal handouts.

LYING IN WAIT FOR OUR TAX DOLLARS--- THESE IMPOVERISHED COUNTRIES CURRENTLY HAVE ORGANIZED PRESSURE GROUPS INSIDE THE US (here illegally): Argentina, Belize, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica Republic, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico (stateside)l Salvador, Spain, Uruguay, Venezuela.

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AS ONE EXAMPLE: Dominican Republic travel brochures reveal the Third World hellhole provides no safety nets for its impoverished populations. The DR depends on the billion dollars per year their illegal population collect in the US and send back home.

DOMINICAN REPUBLIC STRANGLEHOLD ON US POLITICS It is an unconscionable travesty against representative democracy---to have the corrupt Dominican Republic meddling in our affairs---cooking the books to help Sen Booby Menendez (D-NJ) stay in power. Menendez is on-record using US govt authority to grease the skids for a billion dollar Dominican port-deal (that can facilitate drug cargo to the US).

Menendez also hired an illegal latino who was a registered sex offender to work in his DC office.

HOW DO YOU SAY QUID PRO QUO IN SPANISH? Clearly, a deal was made. IF (BIG IF) the Dominican Republic saves Menendez's degenerate a** (and prevents the dreaded Christie appointment), Obama will write the foreign aid check w/ plenty of zeros.

BOTTOM LINE Menendez has TWO governments protecting him---- Americans have not even one government looking after our interests.

21 posted on 06/13/2013 10:11:55 AM PDT by Liz
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Can anyone explain to me how this is NOT an ex post facto law? Yes, I know it’s USUALLY making something ILLEGAL after the fact, but the theory remains...it’s ‘after the fact’.

Yeah, I know, they don’t follow the damn Laws nor Constitution as it is...why stop there.

Is it not too ONLY the President can pardon?

You know, if I thought most of this kind of crap through, I’d prob. go on a gun rampage through the Capital....At least take a few of the bastards with me (NSA....SUCK IT)


22 posted on 06/13/2013 10:23:44 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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I’ve been a registered Democrat since I was 18. No reason why, really. I was apolitical at that age and chose it with no knowledge of what I was choosing. Never saw a reason to change. Given the fecklessness of the current batch of Republicans, I still don’t see a reason to change.


23 posted on 06/13/2013 11:56:48 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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24 posted on 06/13/2013 6:54:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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The recent years since 9/11 have proven our elected representatives have little to no interest in presenting or passing legislation that passes constitutional muster. A myriad of laws such as Patriot Act, GM takeover, NDAA, Bankster bailouts, Operating government without formal budget, mandated Healthcare and coming legislative assaults on second amendment all point to an out of control nearly, if not actually, tyranical government our founders never intended but clearly warned us about.

In other threads I have touched on the subject of the oath of office and find its treated as just words to be said but no one holds those taking the oath responsible so I thought it a good topic for discussion especially since violating the oath is codified as a violation of federal law and executive order.

The oath taken by both houses of Congress reads,

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God

Congressional Oath of Office

It is apparent that the section of the oath that seems almost daily violated by politicians is “I will bear true faith and allegience to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without reservation or purpose of evasion;”

The congress as a whole along with the executive branch has been knowingly presenting legislation contrary to the constitution and then relying on legal challenges to make it to supreme court for final disposition, that folks is still a violation of the oath taken no matter the lawyeristic manuever of passing legislation as constitutional and waiting for a challenge. If these were your children you would immediately scold for exceeding limits by their hope of getting away with trouble but suffering consequences for only the most egregious just by sheer quantity, its evasive both by congress and by children, both should be accountable.

Below is the most detailed listing of codes covering the subject of congressional oath and pealties for violation,

Federal law regulating oath of office by government officials is divided into four parts along with an executive order which further defines the law for purposes of enforcement. 5 U.S.C. 3331, provides the text of the actual oath of office members of Congress are required to take before assuming office. 5 U.S.C. 3333 requires members of Congress sign an affidavit that they have taken the oath of office required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and have not or will not violate that oath of office during their tenure of office as defined by the third part of the law, 5 U.S.C. 7311 which explicitly makes it a federal criminal offense (and a violation of oath of office) for anyone employed in the United States Government (including members of Congress) to “advocate the overthrow of our constitutional form of government”. The fourth federal law, 18 U.S.C. 1918 provides penalties for violation of oath office described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 which include: (1) removal from office and; (2) confinement or a fine.

The definition of “advocate” is further specified in Executive Order 10450 which for the purposes of enforcement supplements 5 U.S.C. 7311. One provision of Executive Order 10450 specifies it is a violation of 5 U.S.C. 7311 for any person taking the oath of office to advocate “the alteration ... of the form of the government of the United States by unconstitutional means.” Our form of government is defined by the Constitution of the United States. It can only be “altered” by constitutional amendment. Thus, according to Executive Order 10450 (and therefore 5 U.S. 7311) any act taken by government officials who have taken the oath of office prescribed by 5 U.S.C. 3331which alters the form of government other by amendment, is a criminal violation of the 5 U.S.C. 7311.

Violating Oath

The subject I am bringing to the table is “why do the American people allow their representatives to break oath of office (a federal crime) and not hold them accountable?

This should be a non-partisan subject simply due to the fact this has been going on for long decades and both parties are guilty according to the law.

I have myself watched a slow and steady deterioration of personal freedom going on fourty years and the accumulation is IMHO about to reach a tipping point where those hard fought rights become meaningless.
The scales could be tipped back somewhat if the public had awareness that the oath has teeth and voiced expectation that it be taken seriously.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread912761/pg1


25 posted on 06/13/2013 7:26:02 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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5 U.S.C. 3331:
“An individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service...shall take the following oath: ‘I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.’”

5 U.S.C. 3333:
“...an individual who accepts office or employment in the government of the United States...shall execute an affidavit within 60 days after accepting the office or employment that his acceptance and holding of the office or employment does not or will not violate section 7311 of this title. The affidavit is prima facie evidence that the acceptance and holding of office or employment by the affiant does not or will not violate section 7311 of this title.”

5 U.S.C. 7311 (1):
“An individual may not accept or hold a position in the Government of the United States or the government of the District of Columbia if he (1) advocates the overthrow of our constitutional form of government...” [”advocate: to plead in favor of: defend by argument before a tribunal or the public; support or recommend publicly.” Webster’s Third New International Dictionary] ...shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year and a day or both”

Executive Order 10450 (in part):
Whereas the interest of the national security require that all persons privileged to be employed in...the Government shall be reliable, trustworthy, of good conduct and character, and of complete and unswerving loyalty to the United States... it is hereby ordered as follows:

(a)The investigations conducted pursuant to this order shall be designed to develop information as to whether the employment or retention in employment.. of the person being investigated is clearly consistent with the interests of the national security. Such information shall relate, but shall not be limited to the following:

(4)Advocacy of use of force or violence to overthrow the government of the United States, or of the alteration of the form of the government of the United States by unconstitutional means.” [form: established method of expression or practice; fixed or formal way of proceeding; procedure according to rule or rote. Webster’s Third New International Dictionary] (Italics and underlines added).


26 posted on 06/13/2013 7:26:39 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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