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Top military leader disputes diplomat on Benghazi
Yahoo News ^ | 12 Jun 2013

Posted on 06/12/2013 11:25:23 AM PDT by mandaladon

WASHINGTON (AP) — The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said Wednesday that four members of Army special forces in Tripoli were never told to stand down after last year's deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, disputing a former top diplomat's claim that the unit might have helped Americans under siege. Army Gen. Martin Dempsey said timing and the need for the unit to help with casualties from Benghazi resulted in orders for the special forces to remain in Tripoli. Four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, died in two separate attacks several hours apart on the night of Sept. 11. Gregory Hicks, a former diplomat in Tripoli at the time of the attack, told a House panel last month that the unit was told to stand down. Dempsey said that was not the case. "They weren't told to stand down. A 'stand down' means don't do anything," he said. "They were told that the mission they were asked to perform was not in Benghazi, but was at Tripoli airport." Republicans insist that the Obama administration is guilty of a cover-up of the events despite a scathing independent report that faulted the State Department for inadequate security at the diplomatic mission. GOP lawmakers also have questioned why the military couldn't get aircraft or forces to Benghazi in time to thwart the second attack after the first incident that killed Stevens. Sens. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., and Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., questioned Dempsey about Hicks' testimony at a hearing on the military budget.

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KEYWORDS: abdication; abjecttreason; benghazi; benghazistanddown; benghazyctonlin; dempsey; dempseybenghazi; navyseals; obama; obamasleptwewept; obamaspeople; terrorism; threatmatrix; treason; typicaldnctreason
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To: mandaladon

Heard that this is somewhat true in terms of the mission was to protect Tripoli based facilities since ‘the attack’ may be coordinated and designed to draw away Tripoli-based forces.

But this also distracts from where there were very explicit stand down orders - In Spain, Italy and Germany.


21 posted on 06/12/2013 12:11:39 PM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: mandaladon

It’s just a “what the meaning of is..” moment. “Stand down” means do nothing, but the truth is that they WERE told not to go to Benghazi to help out. Dempsey is just playing a semantics game.


22 posted on 06/12/2013 12:19:26 PM PDT by expat2
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To: tennmountainman

“He should be relieved of duty. “

Really?

By whom?

Obama?

Dempsey is a minor problem. Obama will throw him under the bus whenever that is expedient. America’s problem is with the head of the snake.

Possibly Obama, more likely Valerie Jarret or one of Soro’s minions.

Is Hillary beholden to whomever pulls Obama’s strings? Or will Algore retie from saving the planet (and making a bundle in the process) to return to politics to take up the torch from Obama? Smokin’ Joe Biden just reminded us that Gore was “elected president”.


23 posted on 06/12/2013 12:25:04 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: mandaladon

Dempsey is prostituting himself to Obama to get himself another appointment. What a disgrace to the uniform.


24 posted on 06/12/2013 12:26:06 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: blueunicorn6

Yes, Dempsey is an abysmal disgrace. I thought Wesley Clark could’nt be outmatched for being the epitome of a boot licking fool, but I was wrong.


25 posted on 06/12/2013 12:29:53 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: mandaladon

Dempsey is a spineless unprincipled bureaucrat. Obama says jump and Dempsey asks how high...


26 posted on 06/12/2013 12:32:17 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: mandaladon

“Republicans insist that the Obama administration is guilty of a cover-up of the events despite a scathing independent report that faulted the State Department for inadequate security at the diplomatic mission.”

International Crisis Group’s “In Pursuit of Peace” Award Dinner

December 19, 2011 by INDONESIA KATAKAMI

US Seretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton attends the In Pursuit of Peace Award Dinner by the Crisis Group at Pier Sixty at Chelsea Piers on December 16, 2011 in New York City. (Photo by Craig Barritt/Getty Images)

SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you. (Applause.) Oh, my goodness. Well, if it ever were a secret. (Laughter.)

Thank you, Marc, and thanks to all of you for being part of this evening to support such an extraordinary, important organization that is relied upon certainly across the world, and that includes the State Department.

I want to thank Marc and Frank Giustra. I want to thank Louise for her leadership and everyone on the board; the chairman, an old friend, Tom Pickering; Wolf Blitzer, thank you for giving of your time; and all the generous supporters here tonight. Because for more than 15 years, you have helped policy-makers see the world more clearly and respond to conflict more effectively. So I thank you.[...]
http://indonesiakatakami.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/hillary-clintons-remarks-at-the-international-crisis-groups-in-pursuit-of-peace-award-dinner/

Obama’s Benghazi Investigator: An Iran Sympathizer

[...]The problem is that Pickering has ties to the pro-Iran Islamist front group known as the National Iranian American Council (NIAC). NIAC lost an important defamation case in federal court last month in which it unsuccessfully argued the group was not a tool of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Pickering is a member of the advisory board of NIAC. He was Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs from May 1997 through the end of 2000, according to a 2009 report titled “Rise of the Iran Lobby,” by Clare M. Lopez of the Center for Security Policy. He’s also vice chairman of international consultancy, Hills & Co., and co-chairman of the board of directors of the International Crisis Group (whose executive committee includes George Soros). [...]
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/matthew-vadum/obamas-benghazi-investigator-an-iran-sympathizer/

State Department creates own board to look at Libya security query (the fox and the hen-house)

One of the State Department’s accountability review board’s key tasks will be to probe why the office of Patrick Kennedy, undersecretary of state for management, rejected requests for more diplomatic security in Libya in the weeks leading up to the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.

Mr. Kennedy, a career diplomat whose portfolio includes being the top security officer, signed the memo Oct. 1 that set up the review board.

In addition, the State Department said Tuesday that Mr. Kennedy played a role in selecting members of the board, which will be led by former Ambassador Thomas Pickering. And later Tuesday, the State Department put out a revised timeline that abandoned all claims, which the Obama administration had been making since the earliest days, that the attack was related to protests against a film that mocks Muhammad, Islam’s prophet.

Since the review board was set up, information has surfaced in the news media on crucial decisions Mr. Kennedy made before the attack that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

“There’s documentary evidence that requests came back to diplomatic security and Undersecretary Kennedy rejected them,” Larry Johnson, a former CIA officer and State Department counterterrorism official, told The Washington Times.

“What is at issue here, this board is set up to review all of the decisions that were made prior to the attack on 9/11 that reduced security for the U.S. mission in Libya. Kennedy shouldn’t have had anything to do with this,” Mr. Johnson said. “He should have completely recused himself from the process.”

Army Lt. Col. Andy Wood, a Green Beret who led a site security team in Libya, told CBS News that he and others had requested more security, but State Department officials in Washington turned them down and pulled them out of the country, along with a six-member force of elite security guards....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/9/state-department-creates-own-board-to-look-at-liby/#ixzz2Axw6Y0jC

CAIR & NIAC share the same publicist - David Fenton - the David Fenton of the ALAR scare, Milk Hormone scare,and lots more about him around the web.

Hillary Clinton stated publicly at an International Crisis Group (ICG) award dinner that Thomas Pickering was “an old friend”. Soros, Pickering, and many more notables belong to that same group.

Maybe “Republicans” have done their homework and can see what an incestuous relationship they all have with each other. There were top people in the State Department who said they weren’t even questioned.


27 posted on 06/12/2013 1:04:45 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: bronxville
- http://mediachecker.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/the-international-crisis-group-george-soros-mohammad-elbaradei-morton-abramowiz-mark-malloch-brown/
28 posted on 06/12/2013 1:08:15 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: mandaladon

Hey, nothing interupts the General’s scheduled belly button lint picking time.


29 posted on 06/12/2013 1:09:31 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bronxville

International Crisis Group:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Crisis_Group


30 posted on 06/12/2013 1:10:00 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: mandaladon

“They weren’t told to stand down. A ‘stand down’ means don’t do anything,” he said. “They were told that the mission they were asked to perform was not in Benghazi, but was at Tripoli airport.”


A distinction without a difference.

Change the order they were given to “do 10,000 jumping jacks instead of going to Benghazi” to see the ludicrous nature of this bit of semantics.


31 posted on 06/12/2013 1:30:29 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: william clark

A stand down order, according to this idiot General, means “do nothing”. They were told to “do something else” therefore they were not told to “stand down”.

A semantic distinction without a difference. He’d have been better off keeping his yap shut.


32 posted on 06/12/2013 1:31:53 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: Diogenesis

Rape tapes?


33 posted on 06/12/2013 1:39:04 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: blueunicorn6

In fact they were be summarily expelled from any of the service academies for that exact thing.


34 posted on 06/12/2013 1:47:36 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: bronxville

WOW and thank you.


35 posted on 06/12/2013 2:09:09 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: MHGinTN

Yes, it is that, also. I think he knows better which means he’s being disingenuous.


36 posted on 06/12/2013 2:27:18 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: mandaladon

This is so ridiculous. We the people need to go up to the SOB Generals and place a luger at the temple and threaten to pull the trigger if they do not tell the truth. When done cut off the testicles so that they are marked as ballless bastards. It is time to waterboard their backsides. Or take them to DC and literally shove their entire head up Obama’s backside. Maybe these ways will get to the bottom of what happened. The Generals are nothing but traitors


37 posted on 06/12/2013 2:48:35 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: mandaladon; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
This is a bit stupifying considering, if I recall correctly, that it was the NAVY SEALS who were told, not once, but twice to stand down and they disobeyed those orders to try and rescue Chris Stevens and the other Americans at the compound. That is why they are dead.

EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say

"Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11."

Dempsey mot only lied, he didn't even have the right inot, time, or place.

Add to that that the ditz actually cakked PastorTery Jones on the tekephne about the stupid video and you have not just a liar, but an idiot.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


38 posted on 06/12/2013 3:00:55 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: MestaMachine

I want to know where the tapes are, all these calls to the command are tape recorded.

There shouldn’t even be a doubt on what transpired about orders.


39 posted on 06/12/2013 3:03:58 PM PDT by dila813
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Add to that that the ditz actually called Pastor Terry Jones on the telephone about the stupid video and you have not just a liar, but an idiot.

Just woke up and took my meds, folks. Brain not engaged yet.


40 posted on 06/12/2013 3:05:53 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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