[PghBaldy]

I wonder what the point. Both the Bush & Obama Regimes lied to get what they wanted in wiretaps, or overstepped their bounds, or just did what they wanted anyway. When everything is secret, including the supposed checks and balances, it is near impossible to trust anyone in this regard.

[manc]

what we have here by using a curt in their talking points is a cop out It's a secret program run by the obama Govt. who then goes to a secret court who has secret judges who was appointed by who? who then hears the evidence from only the obama Govt. Are you kidding me that this is legal? The whole court is a cop out the spying is illegal and charges should be brought forward not just to Holder, IRS etc but also to those in power who ordered this including Bush if need be enough is enough with these elitist ruling class assholes