Skip to comments.Gay Colorado couple accuses baker of discrimination over refused wedding cake
Posted on 06/10/2013 7:09:20 AM PDT by kimtom
DENVER A gay couple is pursuing a discrimination complaint against a Colorado bakery, saying the business refused them a wedding cake to honor their Massachusetts ceremony, and alleging that the owners have a history of turning away same-sex couples.
As more states move to legalize same-sex marriage and civil unions, the case highlights a growing tension between gay rights advocates and supporters of religious freedom.
Religious freedom is a fundamental right in America and its something that we champion at the ACLU, said Mark Silverstein, the legal director of the group in .....
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Religious freedom of Gay fascism? What’s you’re choice Massachusetts?
They don’t look like they’d have much of a problem baking their own wedding cake. Why make a federal case out of it.
Because they can...that is the agenda.
It is the deviants who are the bullies.
If you don’t fully support leftist perversions you are in trouble these days.
so the bakery is known for this and they went anyway - i feel the turd pushers are shopping for a payout
Same thing in Oregon
So another pair of these homos are suing another business because they won;t make another faggot cake for their fag union ritual? What a pattern, eh? Sue anyone who don’t want their business. Ever heard of bitching via Yelp, Rip Off report etc?
Which is precisely why they tried to order the cake from this particular bakery. It's not about the "wedding" cake. It's all about scoring points for their side.
Would a black baker be legally reqired to cater a “White Pride” event if two skinheads came in asking him to do so?
That’s pretty obvious, because they could have easily found another cake baker,
but they had to pick the one that it would offend to the point of refusal,
just to make a point.
This puts the lie to their plea for “tolerance”.
They seek domination.
Funny how it goes from being able to osit at the lunch counter to this.
You got that right!!!!
Come to think of it, I do not know that I would want to eat a cake that some one made under duress, or under a court order.
The two percent who are faggies want the 98% to bend over & grab the ankles. Bottom line.
That is a truly disgusting photograph.
Just wait till your phone conversations discussing this case are used to put you up for an IRS audit. Or OSHA visit. Or EPA litigation.
And 20 years ago gay marriage would have been unthinkable.
What will they be using your phone conversations about today to persecute you 20 years from now?
Soon we’ll be told not to discriminate against rape, murder, bestiality...you name it....you mustn’t discriminate.
Whatever happened to “We have the right to refuse service to anyone?” or no shoes, no shirt, no sucking c@ck, get the f out.
If homosexuals honestly needed access to wedding cakes instead of being interested in ruining little businesses that adhere to religious values, there would be a huge business for gay bakeries providing cakes for gay weddings.
I recommend the name “Gaykes” for such a business.
Lets see them going to a Muslim butcher and demanding halal meat for their gay wedding,
From the start, I kept a sign prominently diplayed in several places in the business that said,
"WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE, AT ANYTIME, FOR ANY REASON"
Laz, I thought you might appreciate this story.
I only had to used it a couple of times. One time was with a woman who was an artist in town. She owned and operated a small book store and had a gallery in the back room. We knew of her, but I'd never been in her store but up until the date of these events we had cordial realtions with her.
One day she came in and asked me what it would cost to print 500 posters of a 17" x 34" painting she had made. I asked her if it was a full color, or limited color or black and white painting. She said it was full color.
I asked her to step back to printing press room where we had a large layout table so I could see her painting. So, she followed me back and took the painting out of a carrier and showed it to me. I was appalled.
It was a painting of several nude women engaging in some of the most disgusting displays of sexual contact I could have imagined. In fact, up until seeing that filth, I could not have imagined it.
I rolled up her painting, put it back in its carrier, gave it to her, and said, "I'm sorry, my children work with me in this shop, and I have numerous young people and customers who would be appalled at such a painting. In addition, I am personally appalled at it and have to tell you that I will never print such a painting here."
She became quite agitated and indicated that since I was the only Printer in towm at the time, she expected me to print it.
I told her she could "expect," all she wanted but I would not do it.
She started to threaten my business with law suits.
I took her to the front of the store and showed her the sign she had walked underneath to get back to the printing press (the one indicated above) and told her that that sign was made for people like her and then asked her to take her painting and please leave the premises.
She did so, but in a very boisterous manner, continueing to threaten to shut my business down all the way out the door.
A week or ten days later, she showed up with an individual she said was her lawyer. I took them to the sidewalk in front of my store and said I would not discuss the matter on my premisis, but would be happy to briefly discuss it on the sidewalk.
The supposed lawyer proceeded to inform me that a civil law suit could be brouth against me on the grounds I was discriminating against her, and that in addition to "forcing" me to print the painting, that significant punitive damages would also be sought.
I told him, "Look, I stand on my individual rights to do business with whomerver I please and reserve the right to refuse service to whomever I please. That notice has always been prominently displayed in my store. So, go ahead. Knck yourself out. Sue an be damned.
"If you win, I will simply shut the business down, destroy my own equipment, and you will still have to find someone else to do your printing because I will not do it under any circumstances, court order or not...and my equipment will not do it."
I then invited them to be on their way and went back inside my business.
I never heard from her or her "lawyer," again.
There are undetectable drugs that stop hearts ~ but some of these gay guys are into some serious risk taking.
excellent story...everyone should post such sign....
I would have not only printed it, but hung a print up so could see it from my bed.
Discrimination is good. discrimination allows one to shun that which is bad or perceived as bad.
ya, what’s with all these gay wedding cake stories recently? This isn’t the first story of this type. It reeks of an organized attempt to identify certain bakeries, and then target them with lawsuits if they indicate disagreement with homosexual marriage.
I did mean it...and these people knew it.
I can always face bankruptcy or a social stigma if I have to, and then rebuild my business and career.
I cannot easily rebuild my honor and charachter once it is given away under coerscion or for any other reason.
This was foreseeable. Next they will go after the churches that don’t do gay ‘marriages.’
I have some friends in the wedding cake biz, and they simply tell anyone who they don’t want to work with that they aren’t available on the date required.
“Whoops, we’re already booked. Have a nice day.”
I’m sure that every day of the year could be some holiday in some obscure religion... beside Christianity.
They’d have to respect that.
I was thinking the same thing. Should a Jewish baker be required to provide a cake with a swastika on it for a group of neo-nazis?
It is permissible to attack Christian beliefs.
All other “tolerance”, in fact, is based on this goal - to oppose and attack Christian beliefs.
More than that, they want the economic destruction of anyone who doesn't approve of them.
Go Alton Brown bitches.
You are self serving cracker suckers.
There is nothing stopping you from seeking out bakers who will make your “Gake”.
This is all about your bloated and arrogant ego, who seeks only to take advantage of another person, giving you validation for your existence and relevancy by the process.
Pound sand and instead of creating chaos, celebrate your union in the easiest way possible.
Your schtick is getting to be so old and you don’t realize that you are not only making a mockery of your personage but, are freaking making yourselves into objectified poosies.
Further, your creating a further deficit of character that makes you and your crowd, identified by only one subject; that of being animals possessed by a singular focus of an act that comprises a mere 15 minutes of your life, a day or two a week.
Are you fags? Or are you human beings with several and similar interests that are common and shared.
Or just be regular person interested in a variety of things and shared experiences.
You are kicking your own azzez the same way Ellen Degenerres did when she made her comedy show all about being gay.
The schtick got old.
Now she is back to being her brilliant self, with a talk show that interesting and funny.
Bake yer own cake.
Do people realize how stupid this crap is? What a waste of time for society.
Made me laugh, thanks.Still I’m glad the printer had good morals.
Me too. :) Jeff’s the best.
Tell them that the only type of cake available for this is fudge.
Just tell them you refuse to put two males on the cake.
Although eventually gays will sue artists to force them to paint gay couples.
what about sell only coupled figurines (M-F) and charge them twice...then leave off the cake?
“..oop can't break up sets , we sell only sets....”
So go find a baker who will cater to your needs, you booger eating morons!
Given this line of thought, I should sue a local grocery store because they refuse to carry a certain brand of "Dirty Rice" mix, even though I like it. I've asked them to carry it, but they refuse to do so, saying that they don't have enough call for it, and when they did carry it, it just sat on the shelves.
Isn't it my right to make them carry it? OK, sure, I could go to another grocery store that DOES carry it, but that would be inconvenient for me. Yup, I need to sue that grocery store!
They don't want a cake... They want to put the baker out of business.
In general, I oppose the idea that private business can be forced to accept customers.
On the other hand, if you have a retail store, and it is people pulling items off shelves and bringing them to your cash register, I don’t feel like fighting for the idea that you could refuse a particular customer. And selling your product off the shelf to all comers wouldn’t really be an assault on your beliefs, as you would simply choose whether to make a product available.
But in these cases like the baker, you are talking about a SERVICE task, where you are paid to create something for a client. And if the government can force you to serve a client, you are a slave of the state.
I find it illustrative to use extreme analysis. Could the baker decide to retire rather than create a cake for this couple? Or would the state be allowed to FORCE this baker to continue to work, making a cake for a client he doesn’t want to serve? Hence my comment about painters being forced to make paintings of particular items.
And if the baker quit, would he not have the right to decide to go back into business tomorrow? Or can the government force you to not do business?
We are heading into forced labor territory with the health care law, and with these lawsuits. In Maryland, a guy owned a horse-drawn trolley which he rented out for weddings, but he had to close up shop because Maryland decided if he had a license, he had to support same-sex weddings. So now normal married couples can’t hire this christian trolley, because he doesn’t want to serve atheist lesbians.
“.. idea that private business can be forced to accept customers....”
your entire comment is a good one.
I say sell the cake and let customer put the “final” toppings.
but the state should not tell you to service against your conscience...
maybe they need to be a Muslim” for the day???
Another one in Washington State, with florists.
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Homosexual “marriage” law is about persecuting those that refuse to support and service homosexual behavior.