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A single monolithic military is probably easier to utterly control than semi-independent Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marine Corps and Navy branches.

Sorta the PLA model.

1 posted on 06/09/2013 1:38:43 PM PDT by null and void
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2 posted on 06/09/2013 1:42:10 PM PDT by bigbob
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I want to know my guys in my branch. It means that I know what that guy is capable of and what his talent may be. One less thing to think about.


3 posted on 06/09/2013 1:44:22 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Improve weapon systems and then you won’t need camouflage.


4 posted on 06/09/2013 1:44:27 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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How wars has the PLA won? “Esprit de Corps’’ dude, check it out. I want the U.S military to be what it always has been, the best in the world. And you aren’t going to be that by being all the same. A Marine is a Marine, a Ranger is a Ranger, a SEAL is a SEAL, get it?


5 posted on 06/09/2013 1:44:29 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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"Rep. Mike Coffman, R-Col. a former Marine and soldier, was one Congressman who voted against it. He said the amount of savings gained by moving to a joint combat uniform was relatively small compared to the morale gained within the services of having separate uniforms."
6 posted on 06/09/2013 1:45:25 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I can't prove it, but they're true)
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How about just going back to good old olive drab and khaki?


7 posted on 06/09/2013 1:46:14 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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By this logic all the services should have the same dress uniform, too. Why stop at the utility/combat uniforms?


8 posted on 06/09/2013 1:47:26 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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This is NUTS.


9 posted on 06/09/2013 1:48:33 PM PDT by lodi90
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We can’t seem to keep any uniform for more than a few years anymore.


10 posted on 06/09/2013 1:48:55 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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Why isn’t winning the war a priority ?


12 posted on 06/09/2013 1:50:46 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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Not funny.

There is no reason that Navy personnel should wear working clothing different than what Air Force personnel wear. The Army and Marine Corp can wear fatigues that are at least similar.

I was in the Navy 1980-1986. I had four sets of clothing: winter black, dungarees, summer whites, and dress uniforms. For the enlisted ranks below E-7, eliminating winter, summer, and dungarees and going with one set of blues makes sense.

The difference between the services can be accomplished with different covers and insignias.

13 posted on 06/09/2013 1:52:50 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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How much did the tsa just spend on uniforms?


15 posted on 06/09/2013 1:55:16 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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Oh, so we’re interested in saving money by standardization?

How about making Congress and all federal employees subject to every law and regulation to which the citizenry as a whole are subject, with no exceptions?


22 posted on 06/09/2013 1:59:49 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Terrific. The service branches' stupidity on choosing camo patterns and wasting huge amounts of money have led to Congress taking action.

I hope the "UCP" guy and the "Navy camo pattern that looks exactly like the ocean" guy and the "Air Force camo pattern that does nothing but try to look cool" guy are having nice retirements.

25 posted on 06/09/2013 2:03:42 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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Heads should roll in the Marine Corp for their using their symbol in the camouflage, making it unusable for the other services although it was considered the most effective, and the blue camouflage should have cost some careers as well.

The Army and Marines need to agree on the best field uniform, and wear it, different insignia and work caps can suffice for branch identity, even a different tailor cut or pocket shape could be acceptable, but this waste of billions needs to end, the Navy and Air Force can use that in the combat field but have an economical, practical, commonsense work uniform for their daily use that doesn’t require camo, (expensive BLUE camo? come on).

The Navy has had some very useful work clothes in the past, they didn’t need to get into all this expensive and seemingly endless, oneupsmanship game that has been out of control for years.


28 posted on 06/09/2013 2:11:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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The money wasted by congress in “ferreting out” redundant/wasteful camo patterns far exceeded the cost of the camo patterns.

You tell me if this is a “win”.


32 posted on 06/09/2013 2:31:27 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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If I am reading this right we are only talking about camo uniforms. Depending on the service you can have several different uniforms for each person. Everybody would still have their on dress uniform. While you would get savings it would be insignificant compared to other goverment waste. The biggest saving would be eliminating the bureaucrats, congressmen and staff involved in trying to control the design and make sure it manufactured in their state or district.

Congress does have a dress code that is enforced most of the time. But I would like to see congressmen , senators and their staff required to stay in dorms while in Washington. This would save millions of dollars. The dorms would be separated by political parties, each dorm would have it’s own rules based on their party affiliation views on how involved the the government should be citizens lives. Librarians would be able to come and go as they wished and could choose what they wanted to eat from a cafeteria. On the other end of the scope Democrats would have curfew. The would be a person much like a drill sargent in charge for their floor. They would be awaken at dawn and after they made their beds and properly dressed would stand inspection and when passed would proceed to the mess hall where they would eat the approved food. Once they have eaten all food on their plate and returned their tray they would be dismissed to take a bus to their assigned duties. Senators would allow to have a Smart car.

This deserves some more though. Any suggestion? We can’t shoot them remember this is a gun free zone.


40 posted on 06/09/2013 2:57:48 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (A bad hair day is not a mental issue, or is it?)
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New Congress-approved uni-camo.


44 posted on 06/09/2013 3:27:35 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Don't try to explain yourself to liberals; you're not the jackass-whisperer.)
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I think that the Navy camo uniforms are easily the most ridiculous looking uniforms in all God’s creation. And having served in the Navy during Zumwalt’s idiotic utility smock period that’s saying a lot. What are they trying to camouflage from?


48 posted on 06/09/2013 3:42:29 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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Urban cammo:


50 posted on 06/09/2013 3:47:11 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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