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Andrew Cuomo Can Never Have Too Many Abortions
National Review Online ^ | June 6, 2013 | Matthew J. Franck

Posted on 06/08/2013 6:17:34 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

In a brazen push to make his state even more decisively the abortion capital of the United States, Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York is trying to ram through the legislature, before its June 20 adjournment, a radical expansion of the abortion license in the provisions of his “Women’s Equality Act.”

As my Witherspoon Institute colleague Gabrielle Speach, and co-author and practicing physician Elissa Sanchez-Speach, write today at Public Discourse, Gov. Cuomo’s bill is an open invitation to the Kermit Gosnells of the abortion trade to move to New York and ratchet up their performance of late-term abortions on viable children. These abortions are almost never necessary for the sake of a woman’s life or health–one might almost strike the “almost” from that statement, since it is hard to envision a “necessary” case at all–and could instead be occasions for the saving of two lives, the mother’s and the child’s.

Gov. Cuomo is in a war of words with the shepherd of the Church to which he putatively belongs, Timothy Cardinal Dolan, the archbishop of New York. Dolan and all the bishops of the state have joined in a statement that staunchly opposes the abortion provision in the bill because it “would ease restrictions in state law on late-term abortion and runs the serious risk of broadly expanding abortion access at all stages of gestation.” Moreover, the bill would, the bishops say, “repeal the portion of the penal law that governs abortion policy, opening the door for non-doctors to perform abortions and potentially decriminalizing even forced or coerced abortions.”

The governor’s response to these reasonable criticisms is to denounce opponents as “extremists.” When questioned about the bishops’ opposition, the governor is reported to have said, “Their point is that they oppose abortion and think there are too many abortions. I understand that position, but I disagree with it.”

Let that sink in for a moment. Forget about Bill Clinton’s famous (but disingenuous) “safe, legal, and rare.” Andrew Cuomo, whose state has an abortion rate nearly twice the national average, thinks there are not now too many abortions on his watch. The only reason to pass his bill is because you want more abortions, more easily obtained, later in pregnancy.

The bishops’ concern about the repeal of penal law provisions on abortion–and the dangers that such repeal opens up–is a valid one. Cuomo’s bill, which would eliminate all meaningful restrictions on post-viability abortions in New York, also contains this language:

Subdivisions two and three of section 125.05, subdivision two of section 125.15, subdivision three of section 125.20 and sections 125.40, 125.45, 125.50, 125.55 and 125.60 of the penal law are hereby repealed to the extent that they are inconsistent with this section.

What is the import of all this? You can find out by going to Article 125 of the New York Penal Law, “Homicide, Abortion and Related Offenses.” Check out the sections and subdivisions named in the governor’s bill. They constitute essentially the entirety of New York’s present statutory restrictions on abortion. Then the question becomes, what does it mean to say they are all “hereby repealed to the extent that they are inconsistent” with Cuomo’s bill? This does not appear on its face to be an outright repeal with the stroke of a pen. Only those existing provisions found (by a judge?) to be “inconsistent” with the new bill would be considered repealed. But read the existing provisions, which ban late-term abortions and criminalize acts that cause the deaths of viable unborn children. Would any of them survive the hostile scrutiny of a typical liberal judge? Not on your life. Or rather, not on the nearest unborn baby’s life.

So it is fair to say that New York’s whole abortion law is wiped off the slate and replaced with Cuomo’s bland statement that “[t]he state shall not deny a women’s [sic] right to obtain an abortion as established by the United States Supreme Court in the 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade.” In fact, there appears to be nothing banned, not a single abortion performed by anyone that is prohibited or restricted in any way, by the governor’s bill.

And Andrew Cuomo has the gall to label other people “extremists.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; andrewcuomo; corruption; cuomo; democrats; democratskillbabies; liberalism; liberals; moralabsolutes; ny; partialbirthabortion; progressives
If our our side of the great political divide does not get our house in order, this guy, much worse on abortion than Obama, may be our next president.
1 posted on 06/08/2013 6:17:34 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Sadly they weren’t readily available to some folks moms back in the early 60’s. Even sadder is that they are so common and frequent today. At least king husseins kids won’t have to be punished with havin’ a kid before their time.


2 posted on 06/08/2013 6:22:05 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

When he dies, he’ll have a grand Catholic funeral, like the Mafia dons do.


3 posted on 06/08/2013 6:22:50 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I heard Pius Jr. speak earlier this week and it’s so eerie how he sounds just like his father Pius Sr. Much like his father Governor Cuomo will never sniff the White House as long as the Clintons are a force in the Democratic Party.


4 posted on 06/08/2013 6:25:05 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: dowcaet

Think Cuomo is trying to turn NY into a abortion tourism industry. People go to Thailand for sex with kids, they go to India for surgery, go to Mexico for cancer treatments and now to NY for abortions.

200 years from now, the history books are going to list this as one of the central themes as to how the United States was destroyed without anyone ever firing a shot.


5 posted on 06/08/2013 6:36:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"The Empire Dead Baby State"
6 posted on 06/08/2013 6:47:35 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Cuomo Can Never Have Too Many Abortions,

Too bad Matilda didn't have one back in 1957

7 posted on 06/08/2013 6:49:25 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

NY has always been a mecca for abortions

In the early 70’s I had a Penn State sorority sister who went to NY for 3 abortions in 2 years


8 posted on 06/08/2013 6:52:17 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Anytime he wants communion just show up at Dolan’s place.


9 posted on 06/08/2013 6:56:57 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Read and share this powerful story.
10 posted on 06/08/2013 7:01:52 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: txrefugee
When he dies, he’ll have a grand Catholic funeral, like the Mafia dons do.

The cardinal will sniffle and sprinkle his corpse with holy water. As I see it, the Catholic Church gave America the Cuomo family--and all that they represent--and has yet to take responsibility for it. If we end up with Kermit Gosnell as NY state surgeon general, it is as much the cardinal's fault as the governor's.

11 posted on 06/08/2013 7:03:37 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98

It’s like Harry Reid being a member of the “God Bless Planned Parenthood” and “NO! NO! NO! God!” Party. Where are his church leaders?


12 posted on 06/08/2013 7:06:59 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: EQAndyBuzz

200 years from now, the history books are going to list this as one of the central themes as to how the United States was destroyed without anyone ever firing a shot.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Why would God save our nation? Why should He? And....Conservatives are very much to blame as well as the communists in our nation.

1) Abortion:
Millions can show up for a chicken sandwich but can’t figure out how to end abortion? Really?

2) Compulsory socialist-entitlement and GODLESS K-12 schooling!

The children who attend these schools **will** learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the godless classroom. How could it be otherwise? And...They risk learning that any voting mob powerful enough to give them socialist-entitlement schooling and compel them to use it is powerful enough to give them **lots** of free stuff.

If children manage to survive the womb, then their souls risk being aborted and minds scrambled in their compulsory, socialist-entitlement, and godless schools.

And....Conservatives let this continue and even willingly cooperate. I don’t think God is happy with us.


13 posted on 06/08/2013 7:14:44 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: txrefugee
When he dies, he’ll have a grand Catholic funeral, like the Mafia dons do.

Yeah, Cuomo probably will have a Catholic funeral. The thing is though, if he doesn't sincerely repent for his mortal sin of further enabling and advancing abortions in NYS and vow to sin no more, his soul will forever burn in the fires of Hell! Cuomo may not get punishment for his grave sinfulness in this life, but he certainly will in the next.

14 posted on 06/08/2013 8:07:20 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
I'm suuuure the Catholic Church will be excommunicating this divorced, pro-abortion scumbag any day now.
Waiting ... still waiting ... I hear crickets ...
15 posted on 06/08/2013 8:17:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
I'm suuuure the Catholic Church will be excommunicating this divorced, pro-abortion scumbag any day now. Waiting ... still waiting ... I hear crickets ...

According to Canon Law, he's automatically excommunicated. Dolan and the rest need to man up now and deny him Communion.

BTW, I agree with you, Cuomo is a scumbag! Unfortunately, he's also the governor of my state. I certainly didn't vote for him and I supported and voted for Carl Paladino.

16 posted on 06/08/2013 8:31:05 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: rochester_veteran
According to Canon Law, he's automatically excommunicated.
Waiting for the Church's public pronouncement that Cuomo has been automatically excommunicated.
Waiting ... still waiting ... I hear crickets ...
17 posted on 06/08/2013 8:41:23 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Remember, Cuomo is virtually to only positive story for Democrats from the 2010 election cycle -for that single fact above all else he is darling of the mainstream media.

He’ll go down to an embarrassing defeat when his failures are no longer offset by media buzz -just like his father.


18 posted on 06/08/2013 9:17:32 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: oh8eleven
Waiting for the Church's public pronouncement that Cuomo has been automatically excommunicated.
Waiting ... still waiting ... I hear crickets ...

oh8eleven,

I thought I'd give this a try and I left the following message for Cardinal Dolan.

Cardinal Dolan,

According to Canon Law:

http://www.catechism.cc/articles/abortion-excommunication.htm

“Those Catholics who publicly announce their denial that abortion is always gravely immoral, or who publicly promote abortion, or who publicly argue in favor of legalized abortion, also commit a mortal sin and also incur a sentence of automatic excommunication.

This sentence of excommunication applies to Catholics who are politicians, as well as to those Catholics who are political commentators, or public speakers, or who write or otherwise publicly communicate their erroneous view that abortion can be morally-acceptable or that abortion should be legal. This sentence of excommunication also certainly applies to those Catholics who claim to be theologians or Biblical scholars, but who believe or teach that abortion is not always gravely immoral.

Those Catholics who promote abortion are automatically excommunicated for two reasons. First, they have fallen into the sin of heresy by believing that abortion is not always gravely immoral (canons 751 and 1364). Second, these Catholics are providing substantial assistance for women to obtain abortions by influencing public policy to make abortions legal, and to keep abortions legal, and to broaden access to abortion. Those who provide such substantial assistance commit a mortal sin and incur a sentence of automatic excommunication (canon 1398). ”

As a supposed Catholic, Governor Cuomo is committing mortal sin by enabling and advancing abortion in New York State. I urge you to inform Governor Cuomo of his grave sin and that he should not be receiving the Eucharist until he sincerely repents for his mortal sin and vows to sin no more. In addition, you and your fellow priests should be denying him the Eucharist!

Cuomo is obviously guilty of all that I've highlighted. Now that I've pointed out the obvious to him, we'll see if Cardinal Dolan does anything about it.

19 posted on 06/08/2013 10:04:25 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: rochester_veteran

At his death we should expect a Ted Kennedy style funeral.


20 posted on 06/08/2013 10:07:33 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: rochester_veteran
Now that I've pointed out the obvious to him, we'll see if Cardinal Dolan does anything about it.
A testament of your faith, however, I wouldn't hold my breath.
21 posted on 06/08/2013 10:23:21 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: wintertime; oh8eleven; txrefugee; Colonel Kangaroo
Cardinal Dolan published the following denouncement of Cuomo's abortion law:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: June 4, 2013
STATEMENT OF THE BISHOPS OF NEW YORK STATE ON ABORTION BILL

The following is a statement of Timothy Cardinal Dolan and the Bishops of New York State:

We are profoundly distressed by the introduction of a bill in New York State today that would ease restrictions in state law on late-term abortion and runs the serious risk of broadly expanding abortion access at all stages of gestation. This legislation would add a broad and undefined “health” exception for late-term abortion and would repeal the portion of the penal law that governs abortion policy, opening the door for non-doctors to perform abortions and potentially decriminalizing even forced or coerced abortions. In addition, we find the conscience protection in the bill to be vague and insufficient, and we are concerned about the religious liberty of our health facilities. While the bill’s proponents say it will simply “codify” federal law, it is selective in its codification. Nowhere does it address the portions of federal laws that limit abortion, such as the ban on taxpayer funding, the ban on partial birth abortion or protections for unborn victims of violence.

As the pastors of more than 7.2 million Catholic New Yorkers, we fully oppose this measure, and urge all our faithful people to do the same, vigorously and unapologetically. We invite all women and men of good will to join in this effort and defeat this serious attempt to expand abortion availability in our state and to codify the most radical abortion proposals of any state in the nation.

We support the first nine points in the Governor’s agenda that enhance the true dignity of women. We commit ourselves to examining those proposals and working with the legislature on any and all efforts that help guarantee real equity for all women and men. Our position on these issues will be consistent with all the efforts of the Catholic Church throughout the world to enhance the dignity of women. The direct taking of the life of a child in the womb in no way enhances a woman’s dignity.

Instead of expanding abortion and making abortions even more prevalent, we would like to protect both the woman and the child in the womb. In New York, where one in every three pregnancies ends in abortion (and upwards of 6 in 10 in certain communities), it is clear that we as a state have lost sight of that child’s dignity. We pledge all our efforts to defeat this proposal. We call on all pro-life New Yorkers to stand together with us and with all the leadership in Albany who share our conviction that we have no need for such a bill to become law. We need instead to enhance and promote the life and dignity of all human beings from the moment of conception to the moment of natural death.

The above letter is all fine and good, but there needs to be firm and public consequences for supposed Catholic politicians for enabling, supporting and advancing pro-abortion laws and those consequences are already on the books in Canon Law, as I've pointed out in previous posts to this thread. The Catholic faithful need to hold their Cardinals/Bishops feet to the fire to publicly uphold the laws of their Church and hold Catholic politicians accountable for their grave sins. This not only applies to Cuomo, but also Biden, Pelosi and all other supposed Catholic politicians!

22 posted on 06/08/2013 10:29:25 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

The feminazis and their a$$kissers like coomo love abortion and want more of it.


23 posted on 06/08/2013 10:37:51 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

When this pigs time has come, I hope it is very long and very, very painful.


24 posted on 06/08/2013 1:27:40 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: rochester_veteran

What I do not understand is why Sibelius is not excommunicated.


25 posted on 06/09/2013 7:29:40 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
What I do not understand is why Sibelius is not excommunicated.

Sebelius has been banned from receiving Communion and technically speaking, she's automatically excommunicated for supporting and expanding abortion, but there's been no public pronouncement of this excommunication. There should be! The Obama administration is waging war on Christians/Catholics who are pro-life and the cardinals and bishops should fight back by publicly excommunicating Catholic politicians and government officials who support and advance abortion!

26 posted on 06/09/2013 8:02:11 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: txrefugee

Cardinal Dolan has decreed that Cuomo is a “Catholic in good standing”. Maybe if Cuomo actually killed the babies himself he’d fall out of the Cardinal’s favor. Ya think? Bob


27 posted on 06/09/2013 10:54:47 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("I always knew it was you...I just didn't take care." Al Stewart)
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To: rochester_veteran

“Sebelius has been banned from receiving Communion ..”

I believe this strong measure actually does fallen Catholics a favor. They need to get “hit in the head” so they realize how grave their sin is, and hopefully they eventually will make things right.


28 posted on 06/10/2013 8:53:38 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: All; Colonel Kangaroo

From one of my strong pro-life cyber friends:

“Call your NYS senator.. and voice your objection to the abortion expansion part of the Women’s Equality Act. If the abortion language is not removed, we want our senators to vote AGAINST the entire bill.”


29 posted on 06/10/2013 8:55:55 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: rochester_veteran
....we'll see if Cardinal Dolan does anything about it....

Don't let the glad rags fool you. Dolan is just another Democrat Pol. A million laughs as a speaker at Communion Breakfasts. Pelosi, Biden, Cuomo will be at the rail as always.

Catholics? 53% for Obama ... same as everyone else.

30 posted on 06/11/2013 12:11:43 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: Sun
“Sebelius has been banned from receiving Communion ..”

I believe this strong measure actually does fallen Catholics a favor. They need to get “hit in the head” so they realize how grave their sin is, and hopefully they eventually will make things right.

I agree that it does fallen Catholics a favor and it's the Cardinals and Bishops jobs to remind people, sometimes in a strong way and it's within their authority to do so!

31 posted on 06/11/2013 8:38:31 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: Kenny Bunk
...we'll see if Cardinal Dolan does anything about it....

Don't let the glad rags fool you. Dolan is just another Democrat Pol. A million laughs as a speaker at Communion Breakfasts. Pelosi, Biden, Cuomo will be at the rail as always.

Catholics? 53% for Obama ... same as everyone else.

I know and I'm very disheartened by the fact that a majority of Catholics voted for pro-death Obama. Same goes for Cuomo in New York. Outside of the letters, it seems like Dolan and the others chum around with these Catholic pro-death politicians and that's wrong!

32 posted on 06/11/2013 8:43:12 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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