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NSA Whistleblower Speaks Out on Verizon, PRISM, and the Utah Data Center
Libertas Institute ^ | June 7, 2013 | William Binney (interview)

Posted on 06/07/2013 9:09:15 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Editor’s note: The following is a lightly-edited transcription of an interview with William Binney, a former employee with the NSA who after over 30 years with the agency quit and became a whistleblower, bringing to light many of their illegal activities and mass surveillance of American citizens.

Libertas Institute: Please describe your work experience with the NSA.

William Binney: For approximately 28 years, I was primarily involved in breaking codes and dealing with ciphers and data systems and solving those, and working with data, trying to do threat assessment with all of that data that we had.

After a while, I became the Technical Director of the World Geopolitical and Military Analysis Reporting Group. What that meant was that I had to expand my thinking around the world, and the major problem was data with the web and everything. That’s when I started designing programs to handle that information and be able to select out what was important and what wasn’t.

Then I started implementing those programs, and NSA took those programs and started to direct in domestic data. When they did that, that’s when I left. I couldn’t be a party to that.

(Excerpt) Read more at libertasutah.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhogwot; bilderberg; binney; counterterrorism; nsa; nsawhistleblower; obamaspeople; petraeus; prism; privacy; scandals; terrorism; threatmatrix; verizon; whistleblower; williambinney
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Is this the trigger for the other 75% of the abuse of power scandals for Obozo's minions?

This sounds credible to me.

Tell me what you think.

1 posted on 06/07/2013 9:09:15 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

It’s more plausible than anything coming out of DC about it.


2 posted on 06/07/2013 9:20:15 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: TADSLOS

Yep, and very bad MOJO.

This will meet great resistance against turning over the rocks to daylight.

I have said for years that when the “right people” want the rock hiding Obozo past uncovered it will happen.

Not sure now.


3 posted on 06/07/2013 9:26:27 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

“The NSA Is Lying”: U.S. Government Has Copies of Most of Your Emails Says NSA Whistleblower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfS2Op9l3nk

DemocracyNow.org - National Security Agency whistleblower William Binney reveals he believes domestic surveillance has become more expansive under President Obama than President George W. Bush. He estimates the NSA has assembled 20 trillion “transactions” — phone calls, emails and other forms of data — from Americans. This likely includes copies of almost all of the emails sent and received from most people living in the United States. Binney talks about Section 215 of the USA PATRIOT Act and challenges NSA Director Keith Alexander’s assertion that the NSA is not intercepting information about U.S. citizens.


4 posted on 06/07/2013 9:35:52 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Thanks for link. It is amazing that leftist like those on Democracy Now is also alarmed at where we are.


5 posted on 06/07/2013 9:56:34 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Whenifhow

“intercepting”

That is the key word, he is playing “legal weasel word” games.

Intercept does not mean that they do not have copies of the emails and phone conversations. It certainly does.


6 posted on 06/07/2013 9:58:55 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil; Whenifhow

Binney (former Nat’l Security agent) and J Kirk Wiebe (former Nat’l Security agent) were on with Megyn Kelly-—America Live) today (Friday - about an hour into program). Fox may have a video on their website).

Kelly introduced them both as whistleblowers.


7 posted on 06/07/2013 10:00:48 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Just keeps getting worse. They would have started impeachment hearing by now if the President was a Republican.


8 posted on 06/07/2013 10:03:07 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: Texas Fossil

Just keeps getting worse. They would have started impeachment hearing by now if the President was a Republican.


9 posted on 06/07/2013 10:03:12 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: thouworm

I worked at the farm late today and did not watch TV this evening. Sounds like this is taking a life of it’s own.

About time.


10 posted on 06/07/2013 10:06:56 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Republican1795.

agreed


11 posted on 06/07/2013 10:07:33 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: One Name

It is a time for Truth.

Opening Pandora’s Box? We shall see.


13 posted on 06/07/2013 10:18:01 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

“Sounds like this is taking a life of it’s own.”

It does.

Here’s the video:

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/06/07/nsa-whistleblower-responds-obama-metadata-phone-call-more-revealing-listening


14 posted on 06/07/2013 10:21:40 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I was just on the Mother Jones web site. (I think I’ve only been on that site one other time.) However, I followed a link from Drudge to the Mother Jones site about the Justice Dept fighting the release of the “secret court” finding the surveillance unconstitutional.

The interesting thing, besides the fact there is a “secret court,” were the comments.

Most of the posters are angry over the NSA issue and are blaming Obama. A LOT of the comments from the posters were stating this is not a Democrat or a Republican issue, it is an American issue that needs to be confronted together, and instead of calling it a right vs. left, conservative vs liberal issue, it should be addressed and attacked as a constitutional issue.

One poster stated it would scare the (fill in the blank) out of the politicians in Washington, if the conservatives and the liberals actually came together and stood against them over this issue.

I was a little amazed by the anger being vented there.


15 posted on 06/07/2013 10:22:19 PM PDT by Texas56
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To: Texas Fossil

When I was younger, back in high school,we played a board game called “Risk”. You would amass armies and make a run on the planet.

obama , et al is doing just that. IMHO, they pulled the trigger just a little too quick. Patriots will have another day in the sun before all is fulfilled.

We know how the Book ends.


16 posted on 06/07/2013 10:31:35 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: One Name

very confusing when you are forced to agree with algore and disagree with some gop senators and congressmen.. something weird is afoot.


17 posted on 06/07/2013 10:37:07 PM PDT by willywill
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To: Texas Fossil
Anyone seen this?

"Seriously dangerous times ahead. Deadly times. War, and censorship under the color of authority and under the pretext of of national security"

DHS insider: It’s about to get very ugly

18 posted on 06/07/2013 10:48:44 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: One Name
We know how the Book ends.

Yes. Exactly. Obozo and his master looses.

19 posted on 06/07/2013 10:52:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

bookmark


20 posted on 06/07/2013 11:34:07 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: willywill

I saw this Bush admin clown going after a lefty civil rights attorney on the Factor. I agreed with the lefty 100% in this instance. He was actually saying that the public doesn’t have a right to know in any fashion that it was being spied upon.


21 posted on 06/07/2013 11:43:26 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Republican1795.

President Obama is a republican. catchin’ on, yet?


22 posted on 06/07/2013 11:49:18 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Texas Fossil

NSA workers told ABC News that they routinely eavesdropped on phone sex between troops serving overseas and their loved ones in America. They listened in on both satellite phone calls and calls from the phone banks in Iraq’s Green Zone where soldiers call home. Former Navy Arab linguist, David Murfee Faulk described how a coworker would say, “Hey, check this out… there’s good phone sex or there’s some pillow talk, pull up this call, it’s really funny, go check it out.” Faulk explained they would gossip about the best calls during breaks. “It would be some colonel making pillow talk and we would say, ‘Wow, this was crazy.’”


23 posted on 06/07/2013 11:50:07 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Republican1795.
" They would have started impeachment hearing by now if the President was a Republican."

The media would be already asking, "Mr President, are you going to resign? What is the possibility of impeachment?"

In light of what the Obama Syndicate has done to those who don't toe the line, America's media is intimidated. They don't want Zer0's jack boot thugs coming into their offices, having them ransacked and boxes of files seized and carted off by FBI agents. This is what happened to National Report after publishing a report on the phony birth certificate.

24 posted on 06/08/2013 12:04:49 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

Needs a thread of its own!


25 posted on 06/08/2013 12:25:23 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Texas Fossil; LucyT; thouworm; maggief; Myrddin; shibumi; Hardraade; Candor7; Absolutely Nobama; ...
Techmo-babble. Psychobabble. What's the dif? Same lies, different words?
26 posted on 06/08/2013 12:57:15 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: jonrick46; All

Nationalreport.net is a SATIRE web site.

Two separate topics were posted here about it, and they were both pulled at the request of the topic poster.


27 posted on 06/08/2013 1:09:22 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: willywill

willywill wrote:

“very confusing when you are forced to agree with algore and disagree with some gop senators and congressmen.. something weird is afoot.”

Either some kind of manipulation is going on, or there is an internal war going on between 0 & his administration and those in the “silent service”.

I have mixed feelings about this 30 years-of-service guy.

He just violated his lifelong agreement not to even ADMIT what agency he worked for, much less WHAT he worked on.

But there IS a limit; the Constitution.


28 posted on 06/08/2013 1:20:28 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

And the 30 years-of-service guy wants the constitutional rights to survive.


29 posted on 06/08/2013 1:22:19 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

One of these whistle blowers needs to produce some recorded calls from zeros blackberry or some calls or emails from other high ranking people. That would prove what they are capable of.


30 posted on 06/08/2013 4:18:50 AM PDT by bigtoona
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To: Texas Fossil

Only to point this out. The Guardian, who put the whole piece out in plain view (a liberal British newspaper)...probably didn’t accidentally discover this.

The timing of this...a week prior to the President hosting the Chinese Premier out in Palm Springs...is suspect. The number one topic at the meeting...was to be cyber warfare.

You can imagine the Chinese guy sitting there and grinning as the topic comes up. He says to the President....’you know....we only spy on countries of a potential threat, who gather privacy data against Chinese citizens’, and the President will be kicking himself.

After that lousy meeting ends, then the President has tour the G8 conference in Northern Ireland. Wonder what the number topic will be in private discussions there? Privacy concerns of the Europeans perhaps.

And finally, a stop in Berlin, to give a speech to a crowd of 100,000 people. Stopping off and giving interviews to German reporters? Don’t count on it....privacy questions will arise.

This was all timed. Whether it was the Chinese, WikiLeaks, the KGB, or disgruntled NSA folks. The Guardian didn’t accidentally find this out.


31 posted on 06/08/2013 4:51:07 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice; hoosiermama

Re. timing ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3028852/posts

PRISM Biggest Contributor to Obama Intel Briefings

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10102170/Bilderberg-Group-2013-guest-list-and-agenda.html

http://planet.infowars.com/business/whats-the-connection-peter-thiel-ron-paul-and-the-bilderberg-group

Peter Thiel, (Palantir/PRISM) the billionaire and co-founder of PayPal recently donated 2.5 million dollars to a superPAC that backs presidential candidate Ron Paul. The interesting thing here, and get ready for a shocker, is that Thiel happens to be a part of the Bilderberg Group and its steering committee! Of course, you probably already knew that.

Now, why would Peter Thiel, a seemingly evil investor and tech guru that invested in Facebook and has pushed an NSA spying agenda, donate to the Ron Paul campaign?

http://redflagnews.com/headlines/report-david-petraeus-at-bilderberg-to-craft-big-data-spy-grid?utm_content=Latest+Tea+Party+News,+Current+Events,+Breaking+News,+Politics,+Opinion&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=RFN

Former CIA Director David Petraeus is in attendance at the 2013 Bilderberg Group conference to help construct the “big data” spy grid, which is set to become the new frontier of clandestine statecraft as Internet connectivity becomes ubiquitous.


32 posted on 06/08/2013 5:05:34 AM PDT by maggief
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To: jonrick46; maggief

The high information will appreciate your info on the meetings and their participant. But the low information will only get what ABC -whistleblower article contains an invasion of bedroom privacy !
Can we get that article a thread of its own? (@ 23)


33 posted on 06/08/2013 5:28:14 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: MestaMachine
Techmo-babble. Psychobabble. What's the dif?

Remember the "Tower of Babble"?

Effect? Language scramble and words are heard but no longer convey though or meaning.

34 posted on 06/08/2013 5:43:42 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

From a RFQ in 2009:
Questions & Answers on draft RFQ
1.What are the NARA approved formats for storage of data?
Answer:
For approved NARA formats please review the information
at www.nara.gov
2.Approximately how many sites are controlled by EOP?
Answer:
The 7 networks where the EOP currently maintains a presence are:
www.facebook.com/whitehouse
www.twitter.com/whitehouse
www.myspace.com/whitehouse
www.flickr.com/whitehouse
www.youtube.com/whitehouse
www.vimeo.com/whitehouse
www.slideshare.com/whitehouse

http://nlpc.org/sites/default/files/RFQ_WHOS090003.pdf

I remember when the RFI came out in 2009, originally the Whitehut wanted all social media comments collected and DB’d which sounded nefarious to me back then. Of course, I think we ALL sorta knew that all of our communications, texts, calls, web comments were collected.


35 posted on 06/08/2013 5:45:11 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet (Uranus)
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To: Texas56

The issue is the Rule of Law and the chains on the Fed Gov by the Constitution.

That is not specifically a Right/Left divide.

We are in a battle for the life of our Republic.


36 posted on 06/08/2013 5:48:09 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: wxgesr

Now that is an interesting .pdf


37 posted on 06/08/2013 5:59:02 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: wxgesr

Echelon was the father of “Prism” in my view:

:Still, critics of Echelon warn the potential for abuse never goes away.

“This whole thing is so bizarrely powerful that the opportunity or temptation for abuse is fairly substantial,” says Mr. Pike of the American Federation of Scientists. “How many people in your organization always obey the rules?

“The notion that NSA or any other of these spy networks is the only large organization in human history in which everyone always obeys the rules just flies in the face of common sense,” he says.”

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/docs/000219-echelon.htm


38 posted on 06/08/2013 6:01:40 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet (Uranus)
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To: Texas Fossil

Archive FBO site:

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=eec856940efb75b2b1c11e2b1d5660a4&tab=core&_cview=0


39 posted on 06/08/2013 6:05:39 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet (Uranus)
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sfl


40 posted on 06/08/2013 6:41:21 AM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: maggief; penelopesire; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum

Several links on this thread might be of interest!


41 posted on 06/08/2013 7:04:57 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Texas Fossil

William Binney speaks out on YouTube. If you want a private conversation do NOT speak in a room with a computer or phone IN THE ROOM. I assume that also applies to ‘smart’ appliances...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfS2Op9l3nk


42 posted on 06/08/2013 7:21:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC is to news channels as Ringling Bros' Clown College is to Harvard University. - - Greenfield)
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To: Texas Fossil

They don’t have time to listen to all the conversations - but the software used to ‘make connections’ gives a much clearer picture. Plus if they do need to pinpoint a conversation they can pull it up in seconds.


43 posted on 06/08/2013 7:23:47 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC is to news channels as Ringling Bros' Clown College is to Harvard University. - - Greenfield)
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To: Texas Fossil; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

44 posted on 06/08/2013 7:27:04 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Texas56

I’m amazed as well ..did you happen to catch Bob Beckel’s rant o Thursday? He’s apoplectic ...even used the f word. .fascism.


45 posted on 06/08/2013 7:31:31 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Texas Fossil
WB: They’re eating crow right now. Those are lies. Those are just outright lies. Obviously they are, with that court order. They’re scooping up the metadata of everything, and the PRISM program is a scoop up of actual content. Emails, video, photographs, all of that—that’s content. So they’re collecting all of it, and it’s a big vacuum. So you know, those are just outright lies.

Scary stuff...

Spooky stuff...

46 posted on 06/08/2013 7:33:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC is to news channels as Ringling Bros' Clown College is to Harvard University. - - Greenfield)
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To: jonrick46

OMG


47 posted on 06/08/2013 7:34:04 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Texas Fossil
Related ...

Anonymous [the famous hacker] releases more NSA documents
'Anonymous' released statement and links to documents:

Anonymous releases private NSA documents regarding


And here:

Anonymous Just Leaked a Trove of NSA Documents
48 posted on 06/08/2013 7:40:08 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: hoosiermama

It’s the stuff of novels.


49 posted on 06/08/2013 8:24:04 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: TomGuy

Please post on its own thread so more people will see the information


50 posted on 06/08/2013 8:34:59 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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