Posted on 06/06/2013 11:51:51 PM PDT by neverdem
and then around 1800 hey thats centuries ago
anyhoo president Jefferson wanted to know about our enemies the Moslerms for himserlf
Islamic terrorists were seizing American ships and killing American sailors and passengers and holding others for ransom...
Jefferson wanted to know what he was up against what made them so evil
so he got a koran so he could read actual words that influenced the Moslems to such hatred for Christians and Jews...
His interest was not admiration but forearmimng against an enemy...
he learnt enough to cause him to send in the Marines to “the sands of Tripoli”
Patten studied Rommel
Americans in the 1900s studied Communism “Tear down this wall”
Jefferson studied Islam...
None of them were Dhimmis all of them vanquished our enemies
BTW Obama has been touting that Moslems help found America line since 2008
Thank you for your comment. We didn’t get here by accident.
You forgot to mention the contributions of the Arab slavers.
Oh dear what a old forgetful white woman I am...
the Arab slavers gave us Obama...
I mean as a descendant not a victim...
I'm not a lawyer, but I had some classes about assault and battery because of the need to teach about medical malpractice at medical school.
Speech was enough to make a charge of assault, i.e. just a verbal threat. You have to make physical contact before a charge of battery can be made, i.e. just touching someone during a physical examination. Ergo, speech is assault in legalese mumbo jumbo.
I’ll consider it. I have free time but it’s filling up these days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQqwbrNKZgU&gl=IL&hl=en
try that link.there are a bunch of artists who have recorded it
Thanks so much! I’ve got my MP3 clip to burn on CD now.
But this dope isn't talking history. He is saying, at the least inferring, that Muslims have been here in the US - 'America' for centuries. That Muslims were an integral part of our early colonial society.
And that's laughable on its face. They would have been burned at the stake for; Blasphemy, Witchcraft, Heresy, Devil Worship - you name it (weren't too many Jewish folk wandering around 'back then' either).
and yes I know what you mean
but I think it started with Obama claiming the Moslems were here from the start...
they werent of course but “What difference does it make” etc
now there were the Spanish troops with Coronado etc
Mexico, Florida, AZ, NM, CO around 1510ish
The same year that Columbus arrived 1492 the last of the Moors/Moslems were driven out of Granada, Spain along with the Jews...
The policy was convert to Christianity/Catholicism or leave or die
Many soldiers and sailors in the Spanish forces were Moslem
In order to stay in the military and Spain and keep their officer position and their fortunes and lands they would have just converted on paper
they were still Moslems in their “hearts”
so yes if the point is that there were “Moslems” here centuries ago there could be a case for that...
In Florida in 1572 the Spaniard troops who slaughtered the French Protestant settlers, (Huguenots) may well have consisted of the descendants of “converted” Moslems..
and Moslems inherit their ideology/religion at birth from their fathers...
but other than that lot No there were none in the early colonies...
at least none who helped BUILD...
ask Obama to supply the proof...
Oh dear its locked in the same rabbit hole as his original BC
but heres another thought
In 1619 the first black slaves from Africa arrived in VA probably by way of the Caribbean..brought there by the Spanish and brought on to VA by the Dutch or English
Were any of those first slaves Moslem ???
Well their Arab slave traders Obamas ancestors probably were
so if Obama is claiming that the slaves helped build the colonies and the Moslem slave traders were responsible for them being in the colonies in the first place then yes...
But HEY !!! Obama !!! I wouldnt boast about that...
Yes, that's why I clarified my comment with the term "violent action." Killian was definitely doing switcheroo there at that meeting, trying to make it seem he was referring ONLY to overt violence.
It also exposes what our government is doing to promote islam and its' hateful methods.
Good one RL...my sentiments exactly
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