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Weld County commissioners propose formation of new state, North Colorado
Greeley Tribune ^ | June 6, 2013 | Analisa Romano

Posted on 06/06/2013 6:30:33 PM PDT by Red Steel

Weld County commissioners today announced that they want to join other northeastern Colorado counties in forming a new state — North Colorado.

Commissioners said a “collective mass” of issues have cumulated over the past several years that isolate rural Colorado from the rest of the state and put those counties at a disadvantage.

They said they met with county commissioners at a Colorado Counties, Inc. conference earlier this week to discuss the feasibility of forming a new state, a question that would first be put to voters on the November ballot.

Commissioners said Morgan, Logan, Sedgwick, Phillips, Washington, Yuma and Kit Carson counties all expressed interest in the idea.

The signing of S.B. 252, which increases renewable energy standards in rural areas in a way that rural energy companies say is too costly, and an attack on the oil and gas industry from the Legislature this year were the “straws that broke the camel’s back,” commissioners said.

Weld County’s main economic drivers — agriculture and energy — are under attack, even though they fill Colorado coffers, said Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway.

He said Weld County hardly sees a return from its financial contributions to the state. Conway said he has watched as transportation corridors in the Denver area continue to be improved while Interstate 76, a vital corridor for Colorado’s agricultural counties, remains in deplorable condition.

Conway and Weld County Commissioners Doug Rademacher and Mike Freeman met with The Tribune on Thursday to explain their intentions. They said the entire board is in agreement about the initiative, which they said has been suggested by numerous Weld County residents.

Commissioners said they plan to hold several public meetings to gather input from the community on whether creating the new state is a good idea before crafting a ballot initiative by Aug. 1.

“I know that initially you’re kinda like, ‘Wow, it’s a little out there,’” Conway said. But he said a new state would be economically viable.

With an assessed value of $7.5 billion this year and continued announcements from Noble Energy, Inc., Anadarko Petroleum Corp. and others planning to invest billions more on drilling in the region, more money could go to ignored infrastructure and to education, which commissioners said is seriously underfunded in Weld County.

Weld County alone is larger than Delaware and Rhode Island, and its economy is diversified, Rademacher said.

Overall tax revenue in Weld County has increased year after year, but Freeman said the schools here continue to get the same inadequate allocations from the state because of an outdated and unequal Public School Finance Act.

Freeman said the University of Northern Colorado could become a land grant university, meaning it could receive additional funding from the federal government under certain provisions. Commissioners said they haven’t discussed anything with UNC, but plan to in the near future.

Theresa Myers, director of communications for Greeley-Evans School District 6, said school officials are as surprised by the announcement as anyone and have “no idea” what the implications of a change like that would mean for the school district.

“We would need infinitely more information on how it would impact us financially before we could make an educated comment,” Myers said.

Conway said Vermont, Tennessee, Kentucky, Maine, and West Virginia petitioned for statehood for similar reasons in United States history. He said just because it hasn’t been done for 150 years, doesn’t mean the proposal isn’t appropriate.

“It hasn’t been tried in a while, but we also didn’t have a Supreme Court decide the presidential election for 100 years” until the 2000 presidential election, he said.

If state and federal lawmakers approve of the new state, there would be 51 white stars on the American flag and countless questions.

Under guidelines in the U.S. Constitution, North Colorado would have to get the consent of the Colorado General Assembly and the U.S. Congress to move forward with forming its own state.

Richard Collins, a law professor at the University of Colorado, said the proposal would also likely require a statewide vote to amend the Colorado Constitution, because it outlines the state’s boundaries.

While no county has actually seceded from a state in recent years, there have been plenty of threats. Last year, 13 mostly conservative counties proposed to form South California. And last February, a group of attorneys in southern Arizona proposed the new state of Baja Arizona to break away from the more conservative counties in the northern part of the state.

The district that U.S. Rep. Cory Gardner, R-Colo. comes from would be split, but Gardner said in a statement on Thursday that he is sympathetic to what commissioners are doing.

“The people of rural Colorado are mad, and they have every right to be,” he said in the statement. “The governor and his Democrat colleagues in the statehouse have assaulted our way of life, and I don’t blame these people one bit for feeling attacked and unrepresented by the leaders in our state.”

Eric Brown, spokesman for Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper, said in an email that not all of those in rural Colorado probably agree with Weld County commissioners.

“Background checks on gun sales, increasing renewable energy and supporting responsible development of oil and gas are popular with rural and urban voters,” Brown said. “Not everyone agrees, of course. But we keep trying.”

Hickenlooper did sign an executive order to prevent the rural energy bill’s implementation. But commissioners said the fact that Hickenlooper signed the bill, coupled with a recent comment from Colorado House Majority Leader Dickey Lee Hullinghorst that legislators will be coming back “bigger and better” next year with bills to regulate the oil and gas industry — have them more worried than ever.

Commissioners insisted they are serious about the proposal, but they said if nothing else, they hope it highlights the longstanding tensions between rural and urban Colorado communities, which have hit a breaking point with rural residents being treated like “second-class citizens.”

They said they could also join with other eastern Colorado counties or even some western Nebraska counties that have expressed discontent with their own State Legislature.

“I think this is a healthy discussion to have,” Conway said.


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1 posted on 06/06/2013 6:30:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The start of the breakup of America?


2 posted on 06/06/2013 6:34:02 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

In red “flyover country” Pennsylvania I’d be all for the secession of Philthadelphia.


3 posted on 06/06/2013 6:38:11 PM PDT by lightman (Buzzed and buggered bath house Barry: the Benghazi bungler.)
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To: Biggirl

These Dem clowns are pushing it.


4 posted on 06/06/2013 6:39:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

ping


5 posted on 06/06/2013 6:40:19 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Red Steel

Hey Greeley! How about everyone but Denver and Boulder join forces and keep the name “Colorado” and spawn off the new state of “420land”, or “Unarmed”, or “UrbaneMetrosexuals” or something like that? *SOME* of us still like you (especially me as a former resident of Nunn :-) ).


6 posted on 06/06/2013 6:40:47 PM PDT by PrairieDawg
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To: Red Steel

Can El Paso and Teller County’s come too? Please!

By the way, I propose Sheriff Terry Maketa as our new Governor.


7 posted on 06/06/2013 6:41:24 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: Red Steel
The signing of S.B. 252, which increases renewable energy standards in rural areas in a way that rural energy companies say is too costly, and an attack on the oil and gas industry from the Legislature this year were the “straws that broke the camel’s back,” commissioners said.

This is Sen. John Morse's (being recalled) bill to fund solar & windmills. The cost estimates that I've seen have been to 20% to 30% higher costs to fund his BS.

8 posted on 06/06/2013 6:41:47 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Can’t they just vote the Denver area off the island?


9 posted on 06/06/2013 6:47:59 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: Biggirl

If it came to pass, id be packing my bags to join them - whereever it is. Still, I envision the day when some rural area propose a break up - without asking permission.


10 posted on 06/06/2013 6:48:20 PM PDT by jimjohn
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To: Red Steel; george76

Sounds like a plan to me ping.


11 posted on 06/06/2013 6:48:58 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: george76

Ping...


12 posted on 06/06/2013 6:49:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Biggirl

I have advocated several states dividing for years. Split Philadelphia from the rest of the state and we would likely have two more republicans in the Senate. Do the same for Seattle and Washington, Portland and Oregon, Chicago and Illinois, and you would radically change the Senate.


13 posted on 06/06/2013 7:01:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Red Steel

If they pull this off, I might just retire there.


14 posted on 06/06/2013 7:03:18 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Red Steel

NORTH New York.
The State!
I want it I want it I want it!!!!


15 posted on 06/06/2013 7:03:37 PM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming--to TAKE OUR GUNS"--Paul Revere)
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To: redlegplanner
Can El Paso and Teller County’s come too? Please!
By the way, I propose Sheriff Terry Maketa as our new Governor.

I'm 100% with you. Though how about we just chop out Denver and Boulder, call them Calirado, with chickenlooper as their dear leader. Then the rest of us can stay Colorado.

16 posted on 06/06/2013 7:06:49 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Red Steel

They should make sure that regulated-up Larimer County won’t hold too much sway first (regulations on the Net).


17 posted on 06/06/2013 7:07:54 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Most counties on the Range are regulated-up, too (not to mention the radical animal worship, environmentalism, etc.).


18 posted on 06/06/2013 7:09:29 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Red Steel

Obama and his despicable democrats have sure made a difference.


19 posted on 06/06/2013 7:10:38 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Red Steel

There’s recently been discovery of a huge natural gas field in Weld Co., and the doubling of rural electricity rates, criminalization of magazines, causing gun manufacturers to leave the state... my only comment is why can’t it be north-west Colorado, because I’m sure Mesa, Garfield nd Rio Blanco will want to join up.


20 posted on 06/06/2013 7:12:40 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: lonevoice

I hope our state follows their lead. There is such a huge difference between the liberal west side of Washington State and the east side.


21 posted on 06/06/2013 7:25:12 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: dynachrome; Red Steel; MileHi; dhs12345; neverdem; ColoCowgirl; RandallFlagg; beaversmom; ...

How about everyone but Denver and Boulder ?

Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


22 posted on 06/06/2013 7:26:00 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: lonevoice

I hope our state follows their lead. There is such a huge difference between the liberal west side of Washington State and the east side.


23 posted on 06/06/2013 7:26:33 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: ThunderSleeps

Calirado is a great idea.

do we give them the grand duchy of Pueblo and the Aspen Soviet Socialist Republic (ASSR) as well??


24 posted on 06/06/2013 7:31:54 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: Red Steel

Ya gotta get Congress to agree to the idea and that ain’t gonna happen.


25 posted on 06/06/2013 7:37:01 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: george76
How about everyone but Denver and Boulder ?

Agree big time. This would be great.

26 posted on 06/06/2013 7:43:25 PM PDT by Balata (*)We came unarmed, last time! (*)Liberals, where's the separation of church and state with Islam?(*)
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To: Red Steel

Florida: Draw a line from north of Daytona to north of Tampa Bay. Everything above the line is Florida. Evertbody below the line call yourselves whatever you want...


27 posted on 06/06/2013 7:44:40 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Yawn...

Several years back, farmers in west Kansas and eastern Colo wanted to leave and form their own state - the farmers were tired of ‘paying taxes to a urban black hole’ where little if anything in services came back to their counties.

Denver and the Kansas Cites are all a cesspit.


28 posted on 06/06/2013 7:46:45 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: redlegplanner
Calirado is a great idea.

do we give them the grand duchy of Pueblo and the Aspen Soviet Socialist Republic (ASSR) as well??

I wouldn't miss them.

29 posted on 06/06/2013 8:04:52 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Red Boots

Yup, western CO would want in!


30 posted on 06/06/2013 9:13:02 PM PDT by The FIGHTIN Illini (Wake up fellow Patriots before it's too late)
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To: Red Steel

I live in Weld County. I like it :-D


31 posted on 06/06/2013 10:16:52 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: Red Steel

San Joaquin Valley wants to split from LA and SF. Our split would need to be north to south.


32 posted on 06/06/2013 10:22:18 PM PDT by bannie
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To: PrairieDawg

I think a good alternative is to let Boulder stay “weird”, let Denver have their pot. They can join forces in their own little corridor of suck. Like call it California 2.0 or something like that. The rest of the state gets to keep our guns, bibles and freedom.

Let’s see which part goes down the crapper faster.


33 posted on 06/06/2013 10:30:58 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Absolutely. I’m an IL native, CO transplant and with the exception of Chicago and E.St. Lous and the Quad Cities, the entire state is red. We’ve been screwed by Chicago for years.


34 posted on 06/06/2013 10:32:50 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: ThunderSleeps

Calirado! Love it!


35 posted on 06/06/2013 10:33:28 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: conservativebabe

I’m an Illinois transplant too, and I whole heartedly agree with you. BTW can Douglas County come too?


36 posted on 06/06/2013 11:17:31 PM PDT by benldguy (Obama delenda est!)
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To: Pride in the USA

Sure is. In the 2012 election, the majority voted for the Republican presidential candidate and the Republican candidate for governor. But I’m afraid the region gets a little bit more purple every 4 years as those on the west side flee what they have wrought, and settle here.


37 posted on 06/07/2013 12:45:43 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Red Steel
For reference:


38 posted on 06/07/2013 6:58:31 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: benldguy

I’m a 34 year transplant. Left in ‘79 before things got really bad. Visiting my folks back there causes me to break out in hives!!!!


39 posted on 06/07/2013 7:18:19 PM PDT by The FIGHTIN Illini (Wake up fellow Patriots before it's too late)
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To: lightman
I’d be all for the secession of Philthadelphia.

Vote it out of the Commonwealth. The rest of us could outvote the lesser armpit RAT strongholds in Pittsburgh, Scranton and Erie, sort of like Tennessee outvotes Memphis.

40 posted on 06/07/2013 8:47:44 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: PrairieDawg

Colorado should pass a law: Denver and Boulder are to be annexed and owned by New York City. They pay our tax rate too.


41 posted on 06/07/2013 9:16:17 PM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight (Civilizations die from suicide, not murder.)
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To: Vigilanteman

They don’t call us “Pennsyltucky” for nothing...


42 posted on 06/08/2013 7:33:48 AM PDT by lightman (Buzzed and buggered bath house Barry: the Benghazi bungler.)
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To: Red Steel

My (liberal whackjob) niece lost her job in SF and moved to Denver. I guess that’s not uncommon these days.
Add in a swarm of illegals and you get a state that went from +5 Bush 2004 to +5 Obama 2012.


43 posted on 06/08/2013 7:37:55 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Flintlock
"NORTH New York."

Why not just call it Newer York?

44 posted on 06/09/2013 6:30:57 AM PDT by Preachin' (I stand with many voters who will never vote for a pro abortion candidate.)
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