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Scary: These Slides Show How The NSA Watches Your Every Online Move
Business Insider ^ | 6/6/13 | Josh Barro

Posted on 06/06/2013 4:46:43 PM PDT by Nachum

A top-secret April PowerPoint slideshow details how the National Security Agency partnered with nine tech companies, including Apple, Microsoft and Google, to monitor users activity. The NSA got direct access to these companies servers´ in order to directly watch user communications, according to the presentation obtained by the Washington Post and the Guardian. The program was nominally aimed at foreign actors, but as the Post reports, purely domestic communications could easily end up in NSA hands, so long as an algorithm estimated at least a 51 percent probability that they were foreign.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbi; nsa; online; openborders; policestate; prism; spyingoncitizens; unsecureborders; wideopenborders

1 posted on 06/06/2013 4:46:43 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
purely domestic communications could easily end up in NSA hands, so long as an algorithm estimated at least a 51 percent probability that they were foreign.

How much do ya want to be the algorithm goes something like this:

LocationProb = 51 + Calculatedprob

2 posted on 06/06/2013 4:49:06 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Nachum

They’re too busy watching American citizens exercising their Constitutional rights, and ignoring the muzzie terrorists.


3 posted on 06/06/2013 4:50:33 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: Nachum

Maybe to remain private we need to use the TOR network, proxy servers, private browsers not IE nor firefox


4 posted on 06/06/2013 4:53:19 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

maybe we just need to shoot the sons of b.......


5 posted on 06/06/2013 4:55:52 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: bigheadfred
Our gubment no longer has any legitemacy to exist.

--Drill waves to NSA snoop--

6 posted on 06/06/2013 4:57:00 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Progs are pushing for war. Be ready.)
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To: Black Agnes

Notice that “stored data” is one of the things that can be collected.Think about that if you use MS Sky Drive, Google Drive or iCloud...

I remember being in a presentation by an FBI agent on information security a couple of years ago. He wouldn’t go into details, but he made it very clear that he would never trust anything confidential to any cloud service. Makes me wonder if he already knew about this program.


7 posted on 06/06/2013 4:57:09 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: bigheadfred

There should be a national “Google girl on girl action” day.

They’ll never get anything done.


8 posted on 06/06/2013 4:57:33 PM PDT by Salamander (The only things that last forever are memories and sorrow.)
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To: Nachum

We are living post privacy and individualism. Is this the”Ideals” of which Obama spoke?


9 posted on 06/06/2013 4:57:40 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (President Obma; The Slumlord of the Rentseekers)
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To: CA Conservative

We need to pick one of these companies and attempt to end their profitable US market.

If we’re lucky, overseas reaction to this crap will work there too.


10 posted on 06/06/2013 4:59:46 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: CA Conservative

Cloud data storage is nuts. Maybe for saved games or something, but not for anything personal.

Also, Windows 8 will keep all your passwords for your wifi and so on stored too on the cloud. It’s awfully convenient, but man.. The worst part is I don’t know if I really trust anything that’s cloud enabled to not actually store it anyway even if you tell it not to.


11 posted on 06/06/2013 5:00:33 PM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Nachum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S9H6RO0bKA
12 posted on 06/06/2013 5:06:27 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: 21st Century Crusader

“They’re too busy watching American citizens exercising their Constitutional rights, and ignoring the muzzie terrorists.”

Well, individual rights are an impediment to global government, political correctness and whatnot.


13 posted on 06/06/2013 5:10:06 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Salamander

wth i am in


14 posted on 06/06/2013 5:10:45 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Nachum
Beyond the appalling Constitutional violations here, there is another factor consistent with the Obama Admin's approach to fighting terrorists. Just as they have shifted more and more to drone attacks over the hard but vital military counterinsurgency approach, they are also clearly shifting to a technological approach to intel, at the expense of humanint, or human-collected intel. which is difficult and often messy and conflicted - but vital.

I think this may be a factor as to why they failed to act on the Russian intel about the marathon bombers - they are engrossed in the arrogance that they can get whatever tech info they want, damn the Constitution, and that will suffice. And that goes without even getting into who they consider to be a potential terrorist. It means they are ignoring the history of intel operations that thought humanint wasn't important. Those operations tended to fail. Badly.

15 posted on 06/06/2013 5:11:59 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Nachum

It is hard to imagine how or why they could, or would, monitor so many
around the world, unless they were suspects in some anti government group.
I take only basic precautions such as using StartPage for search.
I am on a foreign ISP, and I do not visit freaky sites.
Being a regular on FreeRepublic, however, might classify me as an enemy of the state, haha.


16 posted on 06/06/2013 5:14:43 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Nachum

....so if the RNC calls you during election time to remind you to vote and Holder has tapped the RNC they now have your info....put together with any donations listed with the Tea Party....anyone you’ve called.....most likely what you’ve said...(don’t believe this BS line about no content recorded or saved)...


17 posted on 06/06/2013 5:17:09 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: dirtboy

Under the Muslim-N-The-WhiteMosque’s orders, no action may be tgken if it might offend a Muslim.

There was more than sufficient data to have justified intervention, but all who might have so done knew the price of so doing.

Islam Is Treason - Sharia Law’s The Reason.

But, we elected a Muslim .........


18 posted on 06/06/2013 5:19:30 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: 21st Century Crusader

Well, just how efficient is all this spying,anyway?? They couldn’t stop the Boston bombers or the shooters in Colorado and Sandy hook.... I guess THEY did’nt want to stop them??
Very Very Bad, all this domestic violations of our constitutional rights. so THEY don’t want to stop the BAd guys I guess....


19 posted on 06/06/2013 5:38:37 PM PDT by flowergirl
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To: Nachum

This is a link to Wired Magazine article on the NSA building March 2012 it is much more than Verizon Wireless folks, much more. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/


20 posted on 06/06/2013 5:38:57 PM PDT by SilverMine (I love the USA but do not trust the govt or the press. the banks or the cartels.)
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To: flowergirl
Well, just how efficient is all this spying,anyway?? They couldn’t stop the Boston bombers or the shooters in Colorado and Sandy hook.... I guess THEY did’nt want to stop them??

Obama's not looking for terrorists... he's looking for political enemies.

21 posted on 06/06/2013 5:40:43 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: flowergirl

Any bad guys that do slip through (or are purposely overlooked) serve to increase their power. ‘See, if we’d just had access to this other data over here we could have stopped them’.


22 posted on 06/06/2013 5:41:46 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Cementjungle

No doubt... this is about destroying political enemies. Whether they’re citizens like us, supreme court justices, senators, or whoever.


23 posted on 06/06/2013 5:47:46 PM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: Nachum

Data vacuum cleaner bump for later...


24 posted on 06/06/2013 5:52:39 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: 21st Century Crusader

Exactly! And what good does all this surveillance do when they couldn’t stop the Boston Marathon bombers?


25 posted on 06/06/2013 5:53:00 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ops33

And the reason they couldn’t stop the bombers is because we lack the will to throw people out of this country before they kill someone. We monitor the conversations and movements of all these people (suspected terrorists). Just kick their butts out of the country and don’t let them back in. That’s where we start. Then we can monitor their conversations in egypt, or saudia arabia, or russia, or where ever.


26 posted on 06/06/2013 5:55:33 PM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: kjam22

Be careful what you say. Just for writing that you could be guilty of a thought crime.


27 posted on 06/06/2013 5:57:56 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ops33

They were watching the guy.... they knew he was a potential... and they lacked the will to kick him out of the country. That’s the bottom line.


28 posted on 06/06/2013 6:00:13 PM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: dirtboy

Well that may be apart of it, but I think the mentality being employed here isn’t humanInt verses tech and there arrogance, the tech intel allows them to build a profile of most of the people in the country, i.e. people who they will consider trouble makers to there totalitarian cause. It also allows them to quickly and on a large scale I might add, deny these same citizens there rights (think the IRS scandal) and effectively insulate the bureaucracy from any repercussions while there are still large fragments or pieces regarding the rule of law and tradition. This in turn then allows them to go after the fragments bit by bit or in whole while no one can do anything (legally) about it. At this point, the totalitarians have won these critical battles that will determine if we go the route of Russia/Germany or the way of Chile. Now they are removing the veneer.

We are seeing open assaults on people religious beliefs, ethics, values, morals, their families, children, etc. in ways we really have never seen in the past even including the Fabian approach these nutjobs have been using. Now they shift over to more aggressive tactics and I doubt they will stop the escalation. After this new wave of assaults has effectively silenced people either by getting them to shut up or people no longer want to hear or associated with them, then I fully expect the real blood bath in the vein of the Nazis and Stalinists combined, to begin.


29 posted on 06/06/2013 6:05:04 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: Nachum

.... Considering that “Right Wing Extremist” groups (Read Tea Party Groups et-al)have been recently put on the terrorist watch lists and then subsequently and quickly prioritized ABOVE Al-Qaeda and foreign terrorist groups by this administration’s crack threat assessment wonks ....... AND Considering these developments of late, I think perhaps the motives of this administration may be well be starting to reveal itself. And folks, I sure don’t like what I see. I may not be extremely good at math ..... but I sure as heck don’t have a very hard time putting two and two together.


30 posted on 06/06/2013 6:10:38 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Monty22002
Cloud data is nuts for sure..... but so is any data storage by a third party. All it takes is a document from our Attorney General and these companies have to turn over whatever they have stored for any and everybody.

Cloud data is great for mp3s of your favorite songs. It helps you move them from computer to Ipod, to Ipad. That's about all cloud data is good for.

31 posted on 06/06/2013 6:13:43 PM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: kjam22

DCI is a muslim. I wouldn’t confuse ‘moral support’ with ‘lacked the will’. How many employees in these agencies SUPPORTED the bombers and their targets and motives and simply looked the other way?


32 posted on 06/06/2013 6:16:10 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: bigheadfred
"maybe we just need to shoot the sons of b......."

"You know, if you think about it, you realize that if the Founding Fathers were alive today they would be marching on Washington D.C. armed with Feathers, Tar, Rails and Rope...!"

33 posted on 06/06/2013 6:16:34 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Black Agnes

Good question.


34 posted on 06/06/2013 6:19:06 PM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: Cementjungle

yea I know...was being snide-


35 posted on 06/06/2013 6:23:36 PM PDT by flowergirl
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To: flowergirl

quick, someone buy a bunch of pressure cookers online, return them, then email out the 3D printer plans for the liberator several times.


36 posted on 06/06/2013 7:27:32 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: Mad Dawgg

i am done thinking about it i cant do it myself


37 posted on 06/06/2013 8:00:51 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: R_Kangel
Considering these developments of late, I think perhaps the motives of this administration may be well be starting to reveal itself.

Obama laid out his motives when he was running for office in 2008. By the time he was elected, most conservatives had his number.

38 posted on 06/06/2013 9:08:06 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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