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Schools not obligated legally to protect students from each other, appeals court rules
Tribune Review ^ | 06/05/2013

Posted on 06/06/2013 10:51:40 AM PDT by Wolfie

Schools not obligated legally to protect students from each other, appeals court rules

Public schools don't have a “special relationship” with students that would make them legally obligated to protect students from each other, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday in a 10-4 decision upholding a ruling in a Beaver County case.

Bradley and Diedre Morrow of West Mayfield sued the Blackhawk School District in 2010 after the district refused to expel a student who repeatedly attacked one of their daughters, even after the attacker was twice adjudicated delinquent because of the assaults.

In a precedential ruling, a 10-judge majority of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals confirmed the March 2011 ruling by U.S. Magistrate Judge Lisa Pupo Lenihan that schools don't have the same control over students that the government has over inmates and people involuntarily committed for mental health reasons, so it doesn't have the same constitutional duty to protect students from harm.

A four-judge minority disagreed, saying that compulsory school attendance and school regulations temporarily place students in the state's custody and therefore deserving of its protection.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: arth; bullying; goobermintschools; lawsuit; ruling; safety
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1 posted on 06/06/2013 10:51:40 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

Yet another reason to get your kids out of state schools and either home school or put them in private school.


2 posted on 06/06/2013 10:53:10 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Wolfie

Bully codes only apply to those beating up on homosexuals. When bullies are thugs who kick the crap out of the brains or nerds, there is a hands off approach and no national “anti-bullying” campaign.

Political correctness is a lie.


3 posted on 06/06/2013 10:53:14 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Wolfie

Decision seems right, but do we REALLY need to be paying 14 judges to decide this?


4 posted on 06/06/2013 10:53:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Wolfie

The four judge minority is correct.


5 posted on 06/06/2013 10:53:54 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Wolfie
"A four-judge minority disagreed, saying that compulsory school attendance and school regulations temporarily place students in the state's custody and therefore deserving of its protection."

The minority is right. If the school isn't responsible for protecting the student, then the student should have the right to bring weapons to protect themselves.

6 posted on 06/06/2013 10:53:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Wolfie
after the district refused to expel a student who repeatedly attacked one of their daughters

Er, what do you have to do to get expelled?

7 posted on 06/06/2013 10:55:10 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Wolfie

Why would parents who love their children send them to such a dangerous environment for 7 hours a day for 185 days a year? That’s just crazy. Even animals protect their young,


8 posted on 06/06/2013 10:55:40 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

Prisons are held to higher standards.


9 posted on 06/06/2013 10:57:37 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Wolfie

So let me get this straight, schools won’t defend students from assault yet those kids can carry no weapons to defend themselves.

Isn’t that the definition of no civilization? A place where brute force rules?


10 posted on 06/06/2013 10:57:41 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Wolfie

They’re in loco parentis, so they indeed do have full responsibility.

Public schooling needs to eventually END.


11 posted on 06/06/2013 10:58:34 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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"students from each other"...little tricky here

should read "students from anyone" on the school grounds

Kinda like the old "Not in my job description"....

12 posted on 06/06/2013 10:59:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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On further contemplation, I understand. It is a step toward the implementation of Sharia law whereby the parents of those students involved in school violence then resort to reprisals and blood feuds to compensate.

Maybe not no civilization but islamic acivilization. Nothing like going back to 700 A.D.


13 posted on 06/06/2013 11:01:26 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Are you sure you read it carefully?

The states forces your children into school and then refuses to provide a *reasonably* safe environment for them. In this case, refuses to protect from an established, known threat?

You don’t see a problem with that?


14 posted on 06/06/2013 11:02:23 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: DannyTN
Exactly!

When the students’ right to protect themselves is completely taken away, then the governmental entity which took away that becomes wholly responsible for protecting the students.

15 posted on 06/06/2013 11:02:24 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Wolfie
In a precedential ruling, a 10-judge majority of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals confirmed the March 2011 ruling by U.S. Magistrate Judge Lisa Pupo Lenihan that schools don't have the same control over students that the government has over inmates and people involuntarily committed for mental health reasons, so it doesn't have the same constitutional duty to protect students from harm.”
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Unless, of course, a student (potential assaulter) in the school possesses a pop tart chewed into the shape of a gun. Then the pop tart possessor must be immediately wrestled to the ground and thrown out of the school.
16 posted on 06/06/2013 11:02:33 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Wolfie
Government schools are the gulags of the US Bolsheviks.
17 posted on 06/06/2013 11:02:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: RightGeek
Er, what do you have to do to get expelled?

Pray for help........

18 posted on 06/06/2013 11:03:16 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Wolfie

THEY DON’T???

Anyone ever hear of the doctrine of In Loco Parentis?

Since the state is seizing children from the parents, it is obliged to fulfill the necessarily roles which otherwise would be filled by the parent. I’m aware of Tinker, NJ v TLO and WV v Barnett, but these must be seen as limitation to the doctrine, not discarding it!

(In Loco Parentis means, “in the place of a parent,” not “Crazy Parents.”)


19 posted on 06/06/2013 11:03:21 AM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: RightGeek

Er, what do you have to do to get expelled?

Good question. Principals catch a lot of flak if their dropout rate is too high. “Encouraging” thugs, criminals, and ne’er-do-wells to just stop attending school is actually a career ending move for the principal.


20 posted on 06/06/2013 11:04:00 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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