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The Incredible Vanishing GOP Presidential Front-Runner
NPR ^ | June 05, 2013 | Alan Greenblatt

Posted on 06/05/2013 1:13:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
President Trey Gowdy. Enough said.

President Trey Gowdy. A true conservative who wouldn't be supported by a GOP establishment which is still entrenched. Enough said? Their argument? Too conservative to win. But Gowdy would have my enthusiastic support.

61 posted on 06/05/2013 2:16:38 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: taxcontrol

Cruz is a naturalized citizen.

The statute you cite naturalized Cruz, not his mother.


62 posted on 06/05/2013 2:18:28 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Deo volente
I'm predicting a makeover for Hillary and a landslide win in 2016.

Alas, I agree. Maybe she will be a marginal improvement over the bogus POTUS. Or she can mop up after his destruction.

63 posted on 06/05/2013 2:19:33 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Ray76

There we will have to disagree. At birth, Cruz received his citizenship from his mother and no other action was required to naturalize him. Therefor, he is a natural born citizen.


64 posted on 06/05/2013 2:20:48 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

Please indulge my personal question for Freepers. My mother came to the US from Canada and married my father, a naturalized American citizen. I was born in the US before my mother became a citizen, which she did after complying with the Alien Registration Act during WWII. My question: Am I a natural born citizen?


65 posted on 06/05/2013 2:26:08 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: taxcontrol

I like Cruz too but he was born in Canada and his father was not a US citizen.

So technically he is not eligible just like my daughter that was born in China and who has non-US citizen mother

That said, I do not see how the demonrats could complain about it without invalidating the Obamanation of Desolation


66 posted on 06/05/2013 2:26:24 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: DoughtyOne

Fair comments. I really do care about Character. I think that in general this is one of the areas where Republicans tend to look a lot better than Democrats.

But I see our laudable concern for Character being turned into a weapon used against us by the media. “What hypocrites! They claim to be Christian, and moral, but look what they do!” and it really annoys me.

I would choose a solid, stand-up guy. But I’d be willing to accept some degree of imperfection if his politics were good.


67 posted on 06/05/2013 2:26:25 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: taxcontrol
Your cite:
The governing statue is Title 8 section 1401 subsection G

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years...

a person born


68 posted on 06/05/2013 2:27:48 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: nickcarraway

The only way the GOP will ever get another vote for me is if they go in the direction of Palin/Cruz. Someone clearly in that tea-party/reformer vein. Otherwise, I’m through. I’m at least 7/8’s out-the-door already, after exclusively supporting and voting GOP my whole adult life. The Republican Party really lost me these past four years.


69 posted on 06/05/2013 2:27:49 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Fai Mao

Governing law is title 8 section 1401 subsection G of USC. (see post #44 for the text.)


70 posted on 06/05/2013 2:31:55 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: greene66
The Republican Party really lost me these past four years.

I don't blame you. But the alternative? Not a third party to split the vote?

71 posted on 06/05/2013 2:32:28 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Fai Mao

Note the title, “Immigration and Naturalization Act”


72 posted on 06/05/2013 2:33:20 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Ray76

Hint ... all persons are born.

They are either born a citizen or the must be naturalized.
According to US law, a person born who by qualification of their parent(s) does not need to be naturalized, is defacto a natural born citizen.

That means, at the time of their birth from the moment they were born, they were a US citizen.

You may not like the law, but that is how it stands.


73 posted on 06/05/2013 2:35:00 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

Why does a U.S. citizen, who has never been a citizen of another country, have to reside in the country for a certain time for their child to be a citizen? According to this, children could be born who are not citizens of any country? They could be born in the U.S. but not citizens here or anywhere else. This seems truly bizarre.


74 posted on 06/05/2013 2:35:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: taxcontrol

There is no 7-year residency requirement. The two years may be part of the five years.


75 posted on 06/05/2013 2:39:15 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: luvbach1

You were born in the US. End of discussion. You are a natural born US citizen.

Title 8 section 1401 subsection A

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;


76 posted on 06/05/2013 2:39:16 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

The law you cited is very plain.

The citizenship and residency requirements of the parents are specified in order for the person born to be a citizen. The person born is naturalized. The citizenship of the parents is not modified.

Cruz is a naturalized citizen, by the naturalization law you cite. Take away the statute, POOF, no more citizenship.


77 posted on 06/05/2013 2:40:11 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Verginius Rufus

The 7 years that I identified was to show that there was 7 years where in his mother could have (and most likely did) meet the requirement.


78 posted on 06/05/2013 2:40:23 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: luvbach1

Read Title 8 in full. The phrase “natural born” NEVER OCCURS.


79 posted on 06/05/2013 2:41:33 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: taxcontrol

Thank you very much for your answer in post #76.


80 posted on 06/05/2013 2:42:19 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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