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British Shopkeeper Forced to Stop Selling 'Obey Our Laws or Get Out' T-Shirt
Express ^ | Wed, June 5, 2013 | Charlotte Meredith

Posted on 06/05/2013 12:26:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A SHOPKEEPER was threatened with arrest by police after he displayed a T shirt in his shop window with the statement: "Respect out beliefs or get out of our country."

T shirt printer Matthew Taylor created the shirt in the wake of Drummer Lee Rigby's tragic death.

But following a complaint from a member of the public, police came to his store in Newport, South Wales, and threatened to arrest him unless he removed the T shirt from sight.

Matthew said: "I had a visit from two community support officers because it has been reported by someone who felt it was offensive.

"It's not meant to be offensive, and that's not the reason I produced it. It's what I believe.

Mr Taylor said the brutal killing of Drummer Rigby had spurred him into making the T shirt, and admitted the shocking attack had left him upset.

"If you don't like the way a country is run, and don't like our beliefs, then go somewhere else, don't go killing people.

"I don't care if you're Welsh, Scottish, English, go somewhere else if you don't like it."

The shopkeeper claimd the t-shirt had been selling (Pic: Caters)

He said the majority of people had supported the controversial T-shirt's slogan.

"I had one person shout that it was disgusting, but most people have reacted positively to it," he said.

"I think the person who reported me was a bit too sensitive. I don't see it as racist, because it's meant to be a statement about any race.

Having lived in Chepstow close to Beachley barracks for a number of years the armed forces were particularly close to his heart, Mr Taylor said.

Matthew Taylor created the shirt in the wake of Drummer Lee Rigby's death

"I'm offended I have had to take it down. I can't see why I can't share my beliefs," he added.

A spokeswoman for Gwent police confirmed: "We had a call from a member of the public.

"We visited the shop and asked him to remove the t shirt, as it could be seen to be inciting racial hatred."

Newport city councillor, Majid Rahman said: "I believe in freedom of speech and defend his rights to say what he wants, but once it starts offending people then it's a police matter and it's up to them whether they think it's broken any laws."

Welsh affairs select committee, David Davies MP said he understood why Mr Taylor printed the shirt.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: doubleplusungood; shirtcrime; thoughtcrime

1 posted on 06/05/2013 12:26:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

New police units formed everywhere; the PC Police


2 posted on 06/05/2013 12:28:19 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: nickcarraway

Obviously, the wording on that shirt doesn’t count for muslilmes, but does for him.

Well Brits, do da name Guy Fawkes mean anythin’ to ya?


3 posted on 06/05/2013 12:28:46 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: nickcarraway
"I had a visit from two community support officers because it has been reported by someone who felt it was offensive

"Community support officers" that's appropriately Orwellian. The sad thing is we are only a couple federal court rulings away from it happening here.

4 posted on 06/05/2013 12:29:30 PM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar
"I believe in freedom of speech and defend his rights to say what he wants, but once it starts offending people then it's a police matter..."

Oh there are so many things wrong with this statement I don't know where to even begin...

5 posted on 06/05/2013 12:31:05 PM PDT by apillar
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To: nickcarraway
... but once it starts offending people then it's a police matter ...

And with that, Ladies and Gentlemen, the last glow faded and the sun set on the British Empire.

6 posted on 06/05/2013 12:31:51 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: nickcarraway

Interesting that patriotism is banned but faggotry is protected speech over there. Strange new world.


7 posted on 06/05/2013 12:31:52 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: nickcarraway
Hasn't occurred to the police and politicians that they are dealing with the easily and perpetually offended.

At some point they will realize that the infidel's mere existence offends at least one group.

8 posted on 06/05/2013 12:31:54 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: nickcarraway

Why not keep it up and let me enforce it and have your day in court?


9 posted on 06/05/2013 12:32:19 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: nickcarraway

My parents, bless their souls, used to say something like that to me when I was a teenager.


10 posted on 06/05/2013 12:32:23 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: nickcarraway
Majid Rahman said: "I believe in freedom of speech and defend his rights to say what he wants, but once it starts offending people then it's a police matter...

Once you start offending?? Are you kidding me? This is NOT the course of free people.

In this country the left has burned our flag. They have placed the symbol of Christianity in urine and the government never batted and eye. Some guy here made a YouTube video and the government seized him.

We need to through off the chains forged by the fascist Left.

11 posted on 06/05/2013 12:32:25 PM PDT by Obadiah (What is twisted cannot be straightened...)
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To: nickcarraway
Mental Test:

Islamic shopkeeper designs shirts that say:

WE WILL NOT OBEY YOUR LAWS
WE WILL NOT RESPECT YOUR BELIEFS
WE ARE HERE TO STAY

Will the Islamic shopkeeper be:

  1. Forced to stop selling the shirts?
  2. Tolerated, and ignored?
  3. Lauded in the British media and the UN for 'forward thinking ideas'?

12 posted on 06/05/2013 12:33:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Mohammed was a Child Rapist.

Needs saying at each instance of free speech squelching.


13 posted on 06/05/2013 12:35:15 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (MOHAMMED WAS A CHILD RAPIST!)
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To: nickcarraway

They (and we all know who ‘they’ are) can spew hatred at and even kill people in Western countries with impunity. We in turn must kiss their asses with alacrity. I’m sick to bleeding gums death of them, but frankly still think I respect them more than modern Western politicians.


14 posted on 06/05/2013 12:35:17 PM PDT by VR-21 (I'm weary of being lorded over by criminals and gilded degenerates.)
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To: apillar

Agreed. This dullard is missing the point entirely!


15 posted on 06/05/2013 12:35:18 PM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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To: nickcarraway

Oooooo - musn’t piss off the ‘religion of peace” ya know..../s


16 posted on 06/05/2013 12:36:17 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: nickcarraway

UK is dead meat, lost, hopeless.
Kiss your bangers good-bye.

USA is only a couple years behind (and catching up fast under its current regime)


17 posted on 06/05/2013 12:36:20 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: nickcarraway
"I'm offended I have had to take it down"

That's its own cause of action!

18 posted on 06/05/2013 12:36:50 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (MOHAMMED WAS A CHILD RAPIST!)
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To: nickcarraway

Sometime soon, they (the muzzies, and the idiot government) will push just a bit too far, and the top will blow off and violence will ensue. Then they will claim “Gee, I wonder what set that off/”


19 posted on 06/05/2013 12:36:55 PM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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I don’t understand why muslims and muslim hate preachers are not arrested for spewing hate and advocating actual violence. Aren’t they violating “Hate speech” laws. Why don’t some undercover Brits go into the mosques and get the hate speech on hidden video, then demand hate laws be enforce because they are offended! They can talk about Jihad and that is perfectly fine. There is nothing racist about this t-shirt. It could apply to anybody.


20 posted on 06/05/2013 12:37:33 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: nickcarraway

>once it starts offending people then it’s a police matter and it’s up to them whether they think it’s broken any laws.

I admit to not knowing UK law making, but do the police really make the laws and enforce them too? He should take the matter up the chain of command. I do hope the good people of the UK get their arses out of suicide mode. Littering the streets with muzzy carcases would be a good start.


21 posted on 06/05/2013 12:40:16 PM PDT by soycd
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To: jsanders2001

“community support officers.”

Hi, we’re from the government, and we’re here to support (help) you.

Up is down. Peace is war. Love is hate.


22 posted on 06/05/2013 12:40:57 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: jsanders2001

“but once it starts offending people then it’s a police matter and it’s up to them whether they think it’s broken any laws”

The meer site of a burka offends me. The Islamic flag offends me. Bearded men offend me. Homosexual activists offend me.
So by British law can they all be imprisoned?
I swear if I lived in GB I’d contact the police any time I felt ‘offended or intimidated’. Which would be anytime out in public.


23 posted on 06/05/2013 12:41:17 PM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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“I believe in freedom of speech and defend his rights to say what he wants, but once it starts offending people then it’s a police matter”

If that’s the case anybody offended by Islam and some of the things they preach could say they are offended too and demand police action.


24 posted on 06/05/2013 12:42:41 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: nickcarraway
England is no longer free.

We are quickly headed down the same path...but we still have our weapons and I pray we will make a fight of itbefore we give up the liberty that has cost so much blood to maintain and preserve to this date.

25 posted on 06/05/2013 12:43:55 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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Fight for your Liberty, citizens of the UK. This time, do it on your own soil.


26 posted on 06/05/2013 12:45:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: nickcarraway
Our founding fathers were so wise!

In the UK, you go to jail for offending someone.

27 posted on 06/05/2013 12:49:40 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: apillar

I can’t believe somebody would actually say it. The country that was a bastion of free speech has gone 180. What on earth are they thinking?

Absolute madness. One thing is for sure, if that is the current state of British law...they now live under tyranny. It is not a free country anymore.


28 posted on 06/05/2013 12:53:39 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: nickcarraway
"Newport city councillor, Majid Rahman said: "I believe in freedom of speech and defend his rights to say what he wants, but once it starts offending people then it's a police matter and it's up to them whether they think it's broken any laws."

Good grief. What a fresh, steaming pile of horse manure.

So, Mr. Councilman Majid (hmmm, I wonder why on earth Mr. Majid is against this shop keeper?), based on your statement, it is obvious that you do not believe in free speech in the least.

He threatened no one. He simply said to obey the law or leave. Now, if that offends someone, and you are willing to cater to the crowd that is offended by that statement...then Mr. Councilman Majid, you are nothing but a puppett on a string and complicit with the law breakers.

29 posted on 06/05/2013 12:54:13 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: snowstorm12

How come it only goes one way? I’m offended by Islam. They should be arrested.

Why not? oh wait...


30 posted on 06/05/2013 12:55:10 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: nickcarraway

Glad we kicked the frickin’ king out. Poor Brits.


31 posted on 06/05/2013 1:01:36 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: apillar

"Community support officers" AKA IRS Agents


32 posted on 06/05/2013 1:07:07 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: nickcarraway

There is a reason the Founding Fathers included the First Amendment, which the British still don’t have.


33 posted on 06/05/2013 1:13:08 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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“...but once it starts offending people then it’s a police matter and it’s up to them whether they think it’s broken any laws.”

No you maroon, it is a Court matter. The police are not the ones who get to decide if this man’s speech incites racial hatred as they do not have a definite means of measuring just how much racial hatred is incited by the shirt. They either better find cause to arrest him or leave him alone.


34 posted on 06/05/2013 1:31:18 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: nickcarraway

How long before the West has their very own Committees for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice?

I’m sure the POTUS is already gathering ideas from his Saudi buddies.


35 posted on 06/05/2013 2:03:14 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: nickcarraway
In the modern home of ordered liberty, THIS.

The Police themselves found the shirt offensive, since based on their actions, it clearly singles them out for exile.

36 posted on 06/05/2013 2:09:47 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Harvard and bigotry, now and forever, one and inseparable.)
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To: nickcarraway

He would be probably better off to start selling burkas and those baggy dresses the male goat herders wear... get in on the front end of inevitability.


37 posted on 06/05/2013 3:02:04 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Truth - the new hate speech!)
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To: nickcarraway

Islam is a cancer.


38 posted on 06/05/2013 3:12:00 PM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: nickcarraway

Political Correctness the death from 1,000 cuts.


39 posted on 06/05/2013 6:57:18 PM PDT by Forty-Niner ( the barely bare, berry bear formally known as Ursus Arctos Horibilis...Hear me roar!)
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To: nickcarraway

I wonder where I can get one of those shirts?

My guess is that they will quickly appear here in the USA!


40 posted on 06/05/2013 7:55:12 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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