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Smoking employees cost $6,000 a year more, study finds
MSNBC ^ | 06/03/2013 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 06/04/2013 7:40:07 AM PDT by LonelyCon

Smokers cost their employers nearly $6,000 a year more than staff who don’t smoke, researchers said on Monday in what they say is the first comprehensive look at the issue. And in what some might see as a dark twist, they’ve taken into account any savings that might come because smokers tend to die younger than non-smokers, drawing less in pension costs. The findings support a growing trend among employers to not only ban smoking in the workplace, but to refuse to hire smokers in the first place, argues Micah Berman of Ohio State University, who led the study.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: employment; health; smoking
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To: camle

What’s funny is I use to smoke 2-3 packs a day of Marlboros and never called in sick once in 15 years. Then I quit smoking, boom...Flu, stomach virus, you name it. My theory is the smoke killed the germs lol.


21 posted on 06/04/2013 8:16:12 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: LonelyCon

I once worked with a retired Navy chief that smoked a lot. By a lot I mean almost every minute he was awake, sometimes he’d have one it his mouth and another one still lit in the ash tray. Then they banned indoor smoking and he was running outside every 15 minutes. People complained about all the breaks he got but I didn’t, actually stuck up for him. He was the most tech savvy guy we had and still worked circles around most.

If an employee does what you require there’s no reason to bitch. BTW I absolutely hate the smell of cigarette smoke.


22 posted on 06/04/2013 8:19:34 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: LonelyCon

What about those who practice sodomy? Alcoholics? Multiple sex partners of the opposite sex?


23 posted on 06/04/2013 8:24:08 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Pollster1
Gay is good in business. They take less days off than females....and they don't get pregnant.

The problem really is we are now FORCED to be "friendly and kind" and all that stuff reserved for "normal" people.

The government owns our feelings, our morals and our minds....way off base from what our forefathers intended.

24 posted on 06/04/2013 8:33:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: LonelyCon

More agenda driven junk science. Guess it depends on what you call a cost and what you don’t.

Pray for America to Wake Up


25 posted on 06/04/2013 8:42:35 AM PDT by bray (Stop tolerating beheading!)
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To: woodbutcher1963

I worked for a public agency that promoted a heavy smoker to a management position. He was outside smoking at least 25% of his work day. After receiving part of the mandatory training for management level, he was diagnosed with lung cancer. He had to be replaced when he took emergency leave for surgery.

After recovering from surgery, he tried to come back, but he was so fragile it was sad to watch. He died soon afterwards.

If you can overlook the human tragedy in an instance like this, look at the cost to taxpayers. The manager wasn’t as productive as his non-smoking peers; the cost of management training was wasted when he had to be unexpectedly replaced; the associated health costs in the last months of his life skyrocketed.

The only grim cost-saving was with the retirement system. He and his agency contributed for years into the system, but the retirement fund only had to pay his widow the survivor’s benefits.


26 posted on 06/04/2013 8:49:21 AM PDT by 04-Bravo
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To: LonelyCon; JRandomFreeper
Hypocrisy:

When my husband was sick with cancer, I had him in four different placements - 3 different hospitals, one physical therapy/retirement facility. Each one had NO SMOKING ON CAMPUS signs everywhere. At the physical therapy place, a patient caught smoking would be expelled.

It was all lies. All those places had a location for their employees to smoke. I would become a friend to an employee, then ask where I could go smoke and that person would tell me where it was or take me there. At that point, I was “in”, I was one of them and I was the only outsider in those smoking areas.

The physical therapy smoking area where patients would get thrown out if they smoked, was the nicest.

In one of the hospitals, a nurse told me where they went to hide out and smoke - no one could see them there. In another hospital, the nurse told me where a spot was that was considered “off campus” and I could smoke there.

Those places issue no smoking orders to people coming in, but they don't go by that rule themselves. I infiltrated every smoking clandestine place in every hospital and that physical therapy place. After I did the first one, I made it a personal goal to find these hidden smoking places.

27 posted on 06/04/2013 8:57:50 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: LonelyCon

Casting stones? As if everyone doesn’t have a vise or is somehow different from the person next to them. Next it’ll be eye color or left handedness or outie belly buttons.


28 posted on 06/04/2013 9:10:23 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: LonelyCon

My question is: how much does a gay employee cost the employer?


29 posted on 06/04/2013 9:13:17 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: LonelyCon
following a particular religion he doesn't believe in, or being gay, that is not discrimination

Actually if the person the owner doesn't want is Muslim or gay I am sure it must be discrimination...

30 posted on 06/04/2013 9:27:10 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Is it your job to watch them? If not, then you wasted your
employer’s time, just like you claim they do.


31 posted on 06/04/2013 9:37:00 AM PDT by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: woodbutcher1963

There are smokers that waste time getting a smoke but I know several smokers that people would not know they are smokers- they don’t smoke at all at work, take no smoke breaks during the day. Of course they would not be hired by those that ask the question about smoking and would be included in this study as part of the “wasting time smoking” group.

I also know people that spend so much time in the bathroom avoiding work that if they are not slacking they must have major medical issues. How much do those employees cost the owner and should “how often do you go to the bathroom” be an interview question?

Truth is if people want to waste time at work they will find a way- smokers or not.

If the health issues of smokers are an issue to the employer then overweight people and gays must be a concern as well- right?


32 posted on 06/04/2013 9:46:44 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: LonelyCon

They first came for the smokers; but I was not a smoker...


33 posted on 06/04/2013 9:50:03 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: LonelyCon

I remember traveling in South America and noticing that the bank teller was smoking when we transacted business there, and the waiter often as not had a cigarette hanging out of his mouth while he took our order.

“Freedom!” we said.


34 posted on 06/04/2013 10:01:46 AM PDT by marron
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To: doublecansiter

I am their employer. I pay their salary. I own the company.


35 posted on 06/04/2013 11:00:24 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: LonelyCon

how much does employing a homosexual cost?

or a liar?

or a druggie?

other behaviors?


36 posted on 06/04/2013 11:04:21 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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