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Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery
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Posted on 06/04/2013 4:04:02 AM PDT by bryan999

WASHINGTON (AP) - Some of President Barack Obama's political appointees, including the Cabinet secretary for the Health and Human Services Department, are using secret government email accounts they say are necessary to prevent their inboxes from being overwhelmed with unwanted messages, according to a review by The Associated Press.

The scope of using the secret accounts across government remains a mystery: Most U.S. agencies have failed to turn over lists of political appointees' email addresses, which the AP sought under the Freedom of Information Act more than three months ago. The Labor Department initially asked the AP to pay more than $1 million for its email addresses.

The AP asked for the addresses following last year's disclosures that the former administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency had used separate email accounts at work. The practice is separate from officials who use personal, non-government email accounts for work, which generally is discouraged - but often happens anyway - due to laws requiring that most federal records be preserved.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appointees; bho44; bhohhs; coverup; cultureofcorruption; email; emails; govtabuse; obama; obamascandals; scandal; scandals; sebelius; secrets; tyranny
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1 posted on 06/04/2013 4:04:02 AM PDT by bryan999
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One day, maybe soon, we’ll see the burning of America’s Reichstag. If the House is retained by the GOP and the Senate is taken or has enough numbers to sufficiently de-fang Obama, it will come sooner rather than later.


2 posted on 06/04/2013 4:09:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: bryan999

Secret work emails, why???


3 posted on 06/04/2013 4:10:59 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Probably to discuss uncomfortable things like using the IRS to target Conservative and Tea Party non profits. Using official email accounts that are automatically archived for the public record could, well, be a little embarrassing.

Nixon’s people were rank amateurs compared to the regime from Chicago.


4 posted on 06/04/2013 4:13:51 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I would imagine if an investigation demands the search and/or seizure of a mailbox, that an incriminating correspondence would never show up in a search...

Such a stinking load to claim the proper, assigned mailboxes are filled with “unwanted messages”. What, the Federal mail servers can’t control spam or something?


5 posted on 06/04/2013 4:15:56 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: bryan999

From the article:

“Ten agencies have not yet turned over lists of email addresses, including the Environmental Protection Agency; the Pentagon; and the departments of Veterans Affairs, Transportation, Treasury, Justice, Housing and Urban Development, Homeland Security, Commerce and Agriculture. All have said they are working on a response to the AP.

White House spokesman Eric Schultz declined to comment.”


6 posted on 06/04/2013 4:18:50 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: bryan999

Also from the article... what an insult and outrage!! FIFTY people??? Seriously? Easily the stupidest thing I’ve read all day.

“The Labor Department initially asked the AP to pay just over $1.03 million when the AP asked for email addresses of political appointees there. It said it needed pull 2,236 computer backup tapes from its archives and pay 50 people to pore over old records. Those costs included three weeks to identify tapes and ship them to a vendor, and pay each person $2,500 for nearly a month’s work. But under the department’s own FOIA rules - which it cited in its letter to the AP - it is prohibited from charging news organizations any costs except for photocopies after the first 100 pages. The department said it would take 14 weeks to find the emails if the AP had paid the money.”


7 posted on 06/04/2013 4:23:31 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: bryan999

Sounds like you just need one Chinese hacker to break in and publish in bulk the entire listing. And when they change the addresses the next week....repeat the same process.


8 posted on 06/04/2013 4:23:42 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: bryan999

This is MAJOR. There is no telling what they have been hiding from the People, the Congress, and the press. There needs to be an investigation of the entire Executive Branch. All computers need to be impounded or checked.


9 posted on 06/04/2013 4:26:30 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: corlorde
Nixon’s people were rank amateurs compared to the regime from Chicago.

Barry on January 21, 2009 - "Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency."

10 posted on 06/04/2013 4:31:16 AM PDT by Nasher
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To: maggief; penelopesire; hoosiermama

AP getting some sweet revenge while performing a public service. Imagine if any of this was known seven short months ago. ::


11 posted on 06/04/2013 4:34:18 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: bryan999

If any of these agencies have had a computer refresh in the past year or so, the requested emails are already gone.


12 posted on 06/04/2013 4:37:20 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Even on the servers?


13 posted on 06/04/2013 4:39:42 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Yeah, right?? Are they expecting us to believe that they can’t control spam or junk mail something?

“unwanted messages”?

??????


14 posted on 06/04/2013 4:43:13 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: bryan999

water Board them!


15 posted on 06/04/2013 4:44:31 AM PDT by SilverMine (I love the USA but do not trust the govt or the press. the banks or the cartels.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Doubt it. Every refresh I've been through I've been told to back up emails and other data on the PC to a disk (since external drives are forbidden now).

But I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time...

16 posted on 06/04/2013 4:45:51 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: PghBaldy

The real issue here is that they are using secret email accounts to do business vs. The public ones. The excuse is volume of emails on the public accounts. Well that problem is easily fixed by filtering. Besides the public is their employer and they should be getting those mails like it or not. This practice needs to be outlawed for public servants.


17 posted on 06/04/2013 4:48:57 AM PDT by Woodman
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I guess what I’m trying to say is that a refresh could be a convenient excuse to lose records. A good protocol would demand retention of records. I’m not expecting that solid protocols were in place much less followed.


18 posted on 06/04/2013 4:51:06 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: bryan999
and America takes another one in the........

19 posted on 06/04/2013 4:53:39 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: PghBaldy
All computers need to be impounded or checked.

They're using BlackBerrys.

Don't you remember when the Secret Service asked President-Elect Obama to give up his BlackBerry, and he refused?

When he's supposedly playing golf, he is constantly texting and reading between holes.

It would be very interesting to know how their intranet was set up and who's on it.

20 posted on 06/04/2013 4:54:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I was wondering the same thing.


21 posted on 06/04/2013 4:58:26 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Woodman

Thanks. I think I know what the real issue is.


22 posted on 06/04/2013 5:00:38 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: bryan999

And “unwanted” defined as messages critical of the Divine Path as spoken unto the masses by the Ear Leader. . .


23 posted on 06/04/2013 5:02:25 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: bryan999

It comes down to using secret email accounts in advance versus smashing hard drives and shredding paper after the fact. A premeditated, finely orchestrated conspiracy to keep the American people in the dark. The entire executive branch should be taken into custody.


24 posted on 06/04/2013 5:26:14 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: bryan999

The “most transparent” administration in history. NOT..

Just imagine the outcry if this had been during the Bush administration.


25 posted on 06/04/2013 5:46:31 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: bryan999

Big Sis Nappy said back in March that she never uses (Govt) e-mail because it’s too “inefficient”. Bet she is tapped into the shadow system though.


26 posted on 06/04/2013 5:53:46 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“Even on the servers?”

The servers are in Canada.


27 posted on 06/04/2013 5:55:55 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble

Seriously???


28 posted on 06/04/2013 6:01:02 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Jim Noble

Everyone at every level in this “administration” should be waterboarded, then humiliated publicly, then deported. The hate of Freedom and the Constitution is endemic by these commies.


29 posted on 06/04/2013 6:02:45 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: bryan999

Most. Transparent. Administration. In. History.

I know I am not the first to say it, but I can rejoice that the AP is finally reporting.


30 posted on 06/04/2013 6:06:04 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Seriously???

Why do you think they are using BlackBerrys?

31 posted on 06/04/2013 6:06:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: PghBaldy
There is no telling what they have been hiding from the People, the Congress, and the press.

We now get twice the government. The old one and a new improved invisible one. All for only only 150% more taxes! Such a deal.

32 posted on 06/04/2013 6:06:56 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: PghBaldy
This is MAJOR

Yes it is.

Probably much too big for Boehner and McConnell.

33 posted on 06/04/2013 6:08:30 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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34 posted on 06/04/2013 6:11:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bryan999

I think by unwanted messages they meant emails from the non-Zero voters who don’t agree with the wannabe dictator and his court jesters.


35 posted on 06/04/2013 6:13:04 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery
The more the Øbama onion gets peeled back, the more it looks like life imitating art ...
36 posted on 06/04/2013 6:13:40 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: PghBaldy
This is MAJOR.

Yes it is and in goes much deeper than has been reported. Before you can get access to a government computer you must have a completed back ground check and have completed mandatory computer awareness training before you can get an e-mail account.

It appears the director of HHS and others in creating these false accounts also falsified training and other government records to create the accounts. In doing so they violated a host a laws and violated countless regulations regarding computer and records security and accountability provisions.

This is go to jail stuff.

37 posted on 06/04/2013 6:33:36 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: TADSLOS; SE Mom; penelopesire; hoosiermama

“Big Sis Nappy said back in March that she never uses (Govt) e-mail because it’s too “inefficient”. Bet she is tapped into the shadow system though.”

Related?

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/janet-napolitano-email-89317.html

3/26/13

Janet Napolitano has no use for email


38 posted on 06/04/2013 6:34:34 AM PDT by maggief
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To: bryan999

The AP should have asked the Chinese Embassy for them........could have been much easier.....and saved a whole lot on labor costs........


39 posted on 06/04/2013 6:35:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: PghBaldy

clinton / gore had the same scandal which, with the help oh the msm, it was able to coverup.


40 posted on 06/04/2013 6:36:17 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Not quite. They are still archived...........


41 posted on 06/04/2013 6:36:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: bryan999
Easily the stupidest thing I’ve read all day.

I found that a bit humorous since you posted that before 6:30AM. ;-)
42 posted on 06/04/2013 6:58:46 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: SE Mom
AP getting some sweet revenge while performing a public service. Imagine if any of this was known seven short months ago.

All true, but the press is largely at fault for none of this being known months ago due to their immeasurable love for all things liberal.
43 posted on 06/04/2013 7:01:25 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: bryan999
Nothing to see here - move along.

Anyone remember when Bush43 was dragged into this controversy? The LIBS wanted him impeached because he was acting as the unitary executive. But out current KING is already being given a pass by his propaganda machine. Bush White House email controversy
44 posted on 06/04/2013 7:01:53 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: bryan999

They use the secret emails because not only can the speak confidentially about their criminal enterprise, but when their ‘work’ emails are subpenaed, they can hand over the official emails and not worry about the scheming in the secret ones.


45 posted on 06/04/2013 7:02:09 AM PDT by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.)
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To: bryan999

For now, the newspapers report NOTHING.

The MSM report NOTHING.

Not a single scandal is being reported during this
coup d’etat by the Impostor
for his Kenya/Pakeeestan/Saudi Arabia/Iran and Indonesia.


46 posted on 06/04/2013 7:06:33 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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Everybody out of the pool and into the prison/industrial complex's luxurious facilities!
47 posted on 06/04/2013 7:06:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: corlorde

Don’t forget all the off site meetings and “golf” outings this regime uses to avoid officially recorded login/logouts.


48 posted on 06/04/2013 7:08:36 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Emails are kept on the servers. If properly set up to archive, they are never gone.


49 posted on 06/04/2013 7:11:48 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: FreeAtlanta

Visions of the movie Casino where the gangsters are meeting up at parking garages and park benches with their hands covering their mouths whispering about the evils of Conservatism, no doubt.


50 posted on 06/04/2013 7:12:17 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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