Skip to comments.Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery
Posted on 06/04/2013 4:04:02 AM PDT by bryan999
WASHINGTON (AP) - Some of President Barack Obama's political appointees, including the Cabinet secretary for the Health and Human Services Department, are using secret government email accounts they say are necessary to prevent their inboxes from being overwhelmed with unwanted messages, according to a review by The Associated Press.
The scope of using the secret accounts across government remains a mystery: Most U.S. agencies have failed to turn over lists of political appointees' email addresses, which the AP sought under the Freedom of Information Act more than three months ago. The Labor Department initially asked the AP to pay more than $1 million for its email addresses.
The AP asked for the addresses following last year's disclosures that the former administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency had used separate email accounts at work. The practice is separate from officials who use personal, non-government email accounts for work, which generally is discouraged - but often happens anyway - due to laws requiring that most federal records be preserved.
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One day, maybe soon, we’ll see the burning of America’s Reichstag. If the House is retained by the GOP and the Senate is taken or has enough numbers to sufficiently de-fang Obama, it will come sooner rather than later.
Secret work emails, why???
Probably to discuss uncomfortable things like using the IRS to target Conservative and Tea Party non profits. Using official email accounts that are automatically archived for the public record could, well, be a little embarrassing.
Nixon’s people were rank amateurs compared to the regime from Chicago.
I would imagine if an investigation demands the search and/or seizure of a mailbox, that an incriminating correspondence would never show up in a search...
Such a stinking load to claim the proper, assigned mailboxes are filled with “unwanted messages”. What, the Federal mail servers can’t control spam or something?
From the article:
“Ten agencies have not yet turned over lists of email addresses, including the Environmental Protection Agency; the Pentagon; and the departments of Veterans Affairs, Transportation, Treasury, Justice, Housing and Urban Development, Homeland Security, Commerce and Agriculture. All have said they are working on a response to the AP.
White House spokesman Eric Schultz declined to comment.”
Also from the article... what an insult and outrage!! FIFTY people??? Seriously? Easily the stupidest thing I’ve read all day.
“The Labor Department initially asked the AP to pay just over $1.03 million when the AP asked for email addresses of political appointees there. It said it needed pull 2,236 computer backup tapes from its archives and pay 50 people to pore over old records. Those costs included three weeks to identify tapes and ship them to a vendor, and pay each person $2,500 for nearly a month’s work. But under the department’s own FOIA rules - which it cited in its letter to the AP - it is prohibited from charging news organizations any costs except for photocopies after the first 100 pages. The department said it would take 14 weeks to find the emails if the AP had paid the money.”
Sounds like you just need one Chinese hacker to break in and publish in bulk the entire listing. And when they change the addresses the next week....repeat the same process.
This is MAJOR. There is no telling what they have been hiding from the People, the Congress, and the press. There needs to be an investigation of the entire Executive Branch. All computers need to be impounded or checked.
Barry on January 21, 2009 - "Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency."
AP getting some sweet revenge while performing a public service. Imagine if any of this was known seven short months ago. ::
If any of these agencies have had a computer refresh in the past year or so, the requested emails are already gone.
Even on the servers?
Yeah, right?? Are they expecting us to believe that they can’t control spam or junk mail something?
water Board them!
But I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time...
The real issue here is that they are using secret email accounts to do business vs. The public ones. The excuse is volume of emails on the public accounts. Well that problem is easily fixed by filtering. Besides the public is their employer and they should be getting those mails like it or not. This practice needs to be outlawed for public servants.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that a refresh could be a convenient excuse to lose records. A good protocol would demand retention of records. I’m not expecting that solid protocols were in place much less followed.
They're using BlackBerrys.
Don't you remember when the Secret Service asked President-Elect Obama to give up his BlackBerry, and he refused?
When he's supposedly playing golf, he is constantly texting and reading between holes.
It would be very interesting to know how their intranet was set up and who's on it.
I was wondering the same thing.
Thanks. I think I know what the real issue is.
And “unwanted” defined as messages critical of the Divine Path as spoken unto the masses by the Ear Leader. . .
It comes down to using secret email accounts in advance versus smashing hard drives and shredding paper after the fact. A premeditated, finely orchestrated conspiracy to keep the American people in the dark. The entire executive branch should be taken into custody.
The “most transparent” administration in history. NOT..
Just imagine the outcry if this had been during the Bush administration.
Big Sis Nappy said back in March that she never uses (Govt) e-mail because it’s too “inefficient”. Bet she is tapped into the shadow system though.
“Even on the servers?”
The servers are in Canada.
Everyone at every level in this “administration” should be waterboarded, then humiliated publicly, then deported. The hate of Freedom and the Constitution is endemic by these commies.
Most. Transparent. Administration. In. History.
I know I am not the first to say it, but I can rejoice that the AP is finally reporting.
Why do you think they are using BlackBerrys?
We now get twice the government. The old one and a new improved invisible one. All for only only 150% more taxes! Such a deal.
Yes it is.
Probably much too big for Boehner and McConnell.
I think by unwanted messages they meant emails from the non-Zero voters who don’t agree with the wannabe dictator and his court jesters.
Yes it is and in goes much deeper than has been reported. Before you can get access to a government computer you must have a completed back ground check and have completed mandatory computer awareness training before you can get an e-mail account.
It appears the director of HHS and others in creating these false accounts also falsified training and other government records to create the accounts. In doing so they violated a host a laws and violated countless regulations regarding computer and records security and accountability provisions.
This is go to jail stuff.
“Big Sis Nappy said back in March that she never uses (Govt) e-mail because its too inefficient. Bet she is tapped into the shadow system though.”
Janet Napolitano has no use for email
The AP should have asked the Chinese Embassy for them........could have been much easier.....and saved a whole lot on labor costs........
clinton / gore had the same scandal which, with the help oh the msm, it was able to coverup.
Not quite. They are still archived...........
They use the secret emails because not only can the speak confidentially about their criminal enterprise, but when their ‘work’ emails are subpenaed, they can hand over the official emails and not worry about the scheming in the secret ones.
For now, the newspapers report NOTHING.
The MSM report NOTHING.
Not a single scandal is being reported during this
coup d’etat by the Impostor
for his Kenya/Pakeeestan/Saudi Arabia/Iran and Indonesia.
Don’t forget all the off site meetings and “golf” outings this regime uses to avoid officially recorded login/logouts.
Emails are kept on the servers. If properly set up to archive, they are never gone.
Visions of the movie Casino where the gangsters are meeting up at parking garages and park benches with their hands covering their mouths whispering about the evils of Conservatism, no doubt.