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To: muawiyah

It isn’t the fault of having the Biblical Office of Bishop; it is the failure to follow the Biblical pattern for selecting those who occupy said Office:

1 Timothy 3:1-7 (NRSV)

The saying is sure: whoever aspires to the office of bishop desires a noble task. 2Now a bishop must be above reproach, married only once, temperate, sensible, respectable, hospitable, an apt teacher, 3not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, and not a lover of money. 4He must manage his own household well, keeping his children submissive and respectful in every way— 5for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of God’s church? 6He must not be a recent convert, or he may be puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace and the snare of the devil.


41 posted on 06/01/2013 10:37:52 AM PDT by lightman (Buzzed and buggered bath house Barry: the Benghazi bungler.)
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To: lightman

Yup. I think the modern, low-power church (understood that many congregations are the exception, but it is the sad norm) has thrown up its hands over the issue of homosexuality. It has deep emotional/spiritual roots, but it is NOT an insuperable problem. If there is anywhere that Christ can be shown as capable of doing wonders, it is in changing homosexuals (and other paraphiliacs... which boils down to idolatry) into genuine lovers of God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, and the Son, and this God conquers all those old spiritual bonds and simply erases them with His superior power. Where the progeny of Freud were frustrated. It’s like building a skyscraper vs. building a mud castle.


45 posted on 06/01/2013 10:41:32 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: lightman
If you resolve to do without bishops, you won't have any trouble with the need to hire on a homosexual bishop.

That's the old 'pluck your eye out' doctrine!

Seriously some of these people seem to think they are going to hell if they don't pick a gay for every office in their church. That is a real problem.

48 posted on 06/01/2013 10:44:49 AM PDT by muawiyah
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