Posted on 05/31/2013 7:14:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Could people like Bob Dole, even Ronald Reagan could you make it in todays Republican party? Chris Wallace of Fox News Sunday asked former Senate majority leader and 1996 GOP presidential nominee Bob Dole.
I doubt it, Dole replied. Reagan wouldnt have made it. Certainly, Nixon couldnt have made it, because he had ideas and we might have made it, but I doubt it.
Let me state up front that I have incredible respect and admiration for Dole. Hes an American hero and was a politician of undisputed integrity. I also admire Chris Wallace as an insightful and accomplished journalist.
But it is a silly question and an absolutely ridiculous answer. I dont blame Wallace for asking it, I guess, because every time a major Republican says Reagan couldnt get nominated today, it gets enormous play. When Jeb Bush said something to that effect last summer, it ignited a minor firestorm.
This time around, the sirens went off at the New York Times the moment Dole uttered his remarks. Members of the Times editorial board sprang from their beds like firefighters, putting on their boots midstride as they raced for the newsroom to bang out an editorial titled The Wisdom of Bob Dole.
It was arguably their most predictable editorial ever or at least since the Times endorsement(s) of Barack Obama, or their endorsements of John Kerry, Al Gore, Bill Clinton (twice), Michael Dukakis, Walter Mondale, Jimmy Carter (twice), George McGovern, Hubert Humphrey, Lyndon Johnson, and John F. Kennedy. Clearly, when the Times frets that the Republican party is dangerously abandoning its past, you know it has the best interests of the GOP at heart.
Never mind that the Times didnt have much use for Dole and viewed Reagans takeover of the White House as tantamount to a barbarian invasion.
So why is it a ridiculous question? Well, first of all, its not a literal question but a figurative one. After all, if Reagan were alive today, he would be 102 years old.
Obviously, what Wallace meant is: Would a politician with his positions make it in todays GOP?
But this, too, has more poetic license than people realize. After all, a candidate who kept insisting that we should roll back the Soviet Union wouldnt be greeted as a man of unbending principle, but as a loon. The Soviet Union is gone. The world has moved on. The issues have changed.
Even being generous on this point, the simple fact is that no former president of the United States would have an easy time getting elected today. Nixon wouldnt fare well today not because he had ideas, as Dole ludicrously said, but because Nixon was a screaming liberal by todays standards. And I dont simply mean todays Republican standards. Nixon started the EPA. He implemented wage and price controls. He didnt just push affirmative-action programs but racial quotas too.
As for the Democrats, which one, exactly, would have an easy time getting elected today? Forget about the repugnant sexual antics; John F. Kennedy was a foreign-policy hawk and tax-cutter. Jimmy Carter? A haughty, born-again Christian Southerner? Sure, hed sail through the Democratic primaries. Even Bill Clinton, despite his enormous popularity among Democrats today, probably couldnt get nominated if he ran as the Democrat he was in 1992.
No one knows how Nixon, Carter, Clinton, or Reagan never mind FDR, Lincoln, or Washington would change their views with the benefit of hindsight. Its a fun parlor game to guess. But thats all it is: a game.
Meanwhile, Republicans are subjected to a double standard. On one hand, they are vilified for being too inflexible, too hidebound. On the other hand, theyre condemned for not holding the exact same positions other Republicans held 30 or even 60 years ago. (Obama loves to invoke Eisenhowers positions as if they prove GOP hypocrisy.) Which is it? Are they rigid, or changing too much?
Obama doesnt even hold the same positions he held five years ago. But his ever-changing views are proof of pragmatism and evolution.
Maybe Republicans learned some lessons from the past? Reagan agreed to amnesty before enforcement on immigration and it proved a failure. He agreed to match tax hikes for spending cuts, and Democrats reneged on the cuts while pocketing the hikes. Todays GOP, right or wrong, changed its positions based on changed circumstances. My hunch and its just a hunch is that Reagan would be pretty sympathetic to the Republican evolution.
Jonah Goldberg is the author of The Tyranny of Clichés, now on sale in paperback.
Notice that Chris “Weakest Link” Wallace is quizzing Republicans about this stupid subject while three terrible scandals are threatening Obama and his co-conspiritors. Wallace is as pathetic as his Liberal old man was.
The old angry geezers like Dole & MeCain need to change their Depends, and move one.
Dole thinks the Republican Party is supposed to be the minority party, helping the Democrats rule. That’s all he ever knew, and he was comfortable with that. These conservatives who stand for something more than the Washington glee club confuse him.
These clowns always say this stuff, and never provide specifics and what policies are so abhorrent.
I’m sure Wallace will ask the same question of an old democrat - Would Kennedy be able to be elected in today hate filled corrupt democrat world?
The problem with today's Republican Party is that it is still full of Bob Doles and John McCains.
On the flip side, racists like Robert Byrd, Orval Faubus, George Wallace, William Fullbright, Al Gore Sr., Lester Maddox, Sam Ervin, etc. would still make it in today’s Democrat Party.
True enough. I would love to know, why don’t we ever ask, would so and so Democrat, such as you mention, or someone such as JFK, make it in today’s increasingly left wing radical Democrat party. That question never comes up.
We had to have this argument constantly with the romneybots, and the answer is that Reagan would still be the brilliant and conservative politician that led him to two terms as California Governor and a two presidency defeating an incumbent democrat, and amazingly high public approval even today, although the media has attacked him for more than 60 years.
Dole and HW Bush were anti-Reagan, and Mitt Romney actually left the GOP in 1979 and eventually came to be a democrat supporter and fund raiser, before reregistering republican in October of 1993, to run for office.
Hey Bob, could you make it in 1996? Just sayin...
They don’t call him Bob Dull for nothin.
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