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Bob Dole’s Parlor Game: “Could so-and-so make it in today’s Republican party?” is a silly question.
National Review ^ | 05/31/2013 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 05/31/2013 7:14:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

‘Could people like Bob Dole, even Ronald Reagan — could you make it in today’s Republican party?” Chris Wallace of Fox News Sunday asked former Senate majority leader and 1996 GOP presidential nominee Bob Dole.

“I doubt it,” Dole replied. “Reagan wouldn’t have made it. Certainly, Nixon couldn’t have made it, because he had ideas and — we might have made it, but I doubt it.”

Let me state up front that I have incredible respect and admiration for Dole. He’s an American hero and was a politician of undisputed integrity. I also admire Chris Wallace as an insightful and accomplished journalist.

But it is a silly question and an absolutely ridiculous answer. I don’t blame Wallace for asking it, I guess, because every time a major Republican says Reagan couldn’t get nominated today, it gets enormous play. When Jeb Bush said something to that effect last summer, it ignited a minor firestorm.

This time around, the sirens went off at the New York Times the moment Dole uttered his remarks. Members of the Times editorial board sprang from their beds like firefighters, putting on their boots midstride as they raced for the newsroom to bang out an editorial titled “The Wisdom of Bob Dole.”

It was arguably their most predictable editorial ever — or at least since the Times’ endorsement(s) of Barack Obama, or their endorsements of John Kerry, Al Gore, Bill Clinton (twice), Michael Dukakis, Walter Mondale, Jimmy Carter (twice), George McGovern, Hubert Humphrey, Lyndon Johnson, and John F. Kennedy. Clearly, when the Times frets that the Republican party is dangerously “abandoning its past,” you know it has the best interests of the GOP at heart.

Never mind that the Times didn’t have much use for Dole and viewed Reagan’s takeover of the White House as tantamount to a barbarian invasion.

So why is it a ridiculous question? Well, first of all, it’s not a literal question but a figurative one. After all, if Reagan were alive today, he would be 102 years old.

Obviously, what Wallace meant is: “Would a politician with his positions make it in today’s GOP?”

But this, too, has more poetic license than people realize. After all, a candidate who kept insisting that we should roll back the Soviet Union wouldn’t be greeted as a man of unbending principle, but as a loon. The Soviet Union is gone. The world has moved on. The issues have changed.

Even being generous on this point, the simple fact is that no former president of the United States would have an easy time getting elected today. Nixon wouldn’t fare well today not because he had “ideas,” as Dole ludicrously said, but because Nixon was a screaming liberal by today’s standards. And I don’t simply mean today’s Republican standards. Nixon started the EPA. He implemented wage and price controls. He didn’t just push affirmative-action programs but racial quotas too.

As for the Democrats, which one, exactly, would have an easy time getting elected today? Forget about the repugnant sexual antics; John F. Kennedy was a foreign-policy hawk and tax-cutter. Jimmy Carter? A haughty, born-again Christian Southerner? Sure, he’d sail through the Democratic primaries. Even Bill Clinton, despite his enormous popularity among Democrats today, probably couldn’t get nominated if he ran as the Democrat he was in 1992.

No one knows how Nixon, Carter, Clinton, or Reagan — never mind FDR, Lincoln, or Washington — would change their views with the benefit of hindsight. It’s a fun parlor game to guess. But that’s all it is: a game.

Meanwhile, Republicans are subjected to a double standard. On one hand, they are vilified for being too inflexible, too hidebound. On the other hand, they’re condemned for not holding the exact same positions other Republicans held 30 or even 60 years ago. (Obama loves to invoke Eisenhower’s positions as if they prove GOP hypocrisy.) Which is it? Are they rigid, or changing too much?

Obama doesn’t even hold the same positions he held five years ago. But his ever-changing views are proof of “pragmatism” and “evolution.”

Maybe Republicans learned some lessons from the past? Reagan agreed to amnesty before enforcement on immigration and it proved a failure. He agreed to match tax hikes for spending cuts, and Democrats reneged on the cuts while pocketing the hikes. Today’s GOP, right or wrong, changed its positions based on changed circumstances. My hunch — and it’s just a hunch — is that Reagan would be pretty sympathetic to the Republican evolution.

— Jonah Goldberg is the author of The Tyranny of Clichés, now on sale in paperback.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bobdole; gop; republicans; teaparty

1 posted on 05/31/2013 7:14:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Notice that Chris “Weakest Link” Wallace is quizzing Republicans about this stupid subject while three terrible scandals are threatening Obama and his co-conspiritors. Wallace is as pathetic as his Liberal old man was.


2 posted on 05/31/2013 7:16:43 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind

The old angry geezers like Dole & MeCain need to change their Depends, and move one.


3 posted on 05/31/2013 7:17:22 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun
And the ones that are left, that are like both those old geezers, Lefty Lindsey included, get the hell out of the way! Give us our party back!

4 posted on 05/31/2013 7:21:01 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dole thinks the Republican Party is supposed to be the minority party, helping the Democrats rule. That’s all he ever knew, and he was comfortable with that. These conservatives who stand for something more than the Washington glee club confuse him.


5 posted on 05/31/2013 7:29:22 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SeekAndFind

These clowns always say this stuff, and never provide specifics and what policies are so abhorrent.


6 posted on 05/31/2013 7:39:11 AM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (CT Yankee in NC Exile - the only swing state to flip (barely))
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To: SeekAndFind
Poor Mr Dole.Survived terrible wounds bravely suffered in WWII only to fall victim to chronic Viagra intoxication.
7 posted on 05/31/2013 7:52:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sure Wallace will ask the same question of an old democrat - Would Kennedy be able to be elected in today hate filled corrupt democrat world?


8 posted on 05/31/2013 7:54:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: SeekAndFind
Please don't equate Bob Dole with Ronald Reagan. Dole was no conservative. He was initially recruited by Democrats to enter politics. The only reason he chose Republican is because that was the easiest way to get elected in Kansas at the time.

The problem with today's Republican Party is that it is still full of Bob Doles and John McCains.

9 posted on 05/31/2013 7:59:07 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: SeekAndFind

On the flip side, racists like Robert Byrd, Orval Faubus, George Wallace, William Fullbright, Al Gore Sr., Lester Maddox, Sam Ervin, etc. would still make it in today’s Democrat Party.


10 posted on 05/31/2013 8:01:44 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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11 posted on 05/31/2013 8:04:06 AM PDT by RedMDer (You are Free Republic. There are no outside influences. Just us, all of us. Please donate today!)
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To: Hoodat

True enough. I would love to know, why don’t we ever ask, would so and so Democrat, such as you mention, or someone such as JFK, make it in today’s increasingly left wing radical Democrat party. That question never comes up.


12 posted on 05/31/2013 8:07:36 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

We had to have this argument constantly with the romneybots, and the answer is that Reagan would still be the brilliant and conservative politician that led him to two terms as California Governor and a two presidency defeating an incumbent democrat, and amazingly high public approval even today, although the media has attacked him for more than 60 years.

Dole and HW Bush were anti-Reagan, and Mitt Romney actually left the GOP in 1979 and eventually came to be a democrat supporter and fund raiser, before reregistering republican in October of 1993, to run for office.


13 posted on 05/31/2013 8:38:27 AM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey Bob, could you make it in 1996? Just sayin...


14 posted on 05/31/2013 8:42:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: DoughtyOne
1996 Presidential Elections Result:

Clinton: 49.2%

Dole: 40.7%

Perot: 8.4%


15 posted on 05/31/2013 8:46:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They don’t call him Bob Dull for nothin.


16 posted on 05/31/2013 8:48:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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