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Obamacare: Higher Premiums for Smoking, Fatness [ Add high risk homosexuality, for same reasons ]
breitbart.com ^ | May 30 2013 | breitbart.com

Posted on 05/30/2013 2:37:15 PM PDT by NoLibZone

FOX NEWS: The Department of Health and Human Services has issued regulations for the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare, which allow health insurance companies to raise premiums up to 50% for smokers and up to 30% for overweight individuals--unless they participate in "wellness programs" provided by HHS.

Democratic lawmakers sold the controversial law to the public by claiming it would end discrimination by health insurers over pre-existing conditions and advanced age. The new regulations does allow for discrimination in these areas, including higher premiums for individuals with high blood pressure or high cholesterol.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; abortion; deathpanels; highrisklifestyle; obamacare; obesity; obesityobamacare; smoking; smokingobamacare; zerocare
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Even the Obama Dept of Health concludes that lesbians are fatter than 75% of the population.

And CDC study after std confirms the homosexual trans mission rates of diseases.

1 posted on 05/30/2013 2:37:15 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

FUBO!


2 posted on 05/30/2013 2:42:49 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: NoLibZone

Is it “fat” or BMI-based?

I’m morbidly obese per BMI but have between 10-13% body fat at any given time. (I am very muscular.)

I am sure it will be BMI, which is a meaningless measurement.


3 posted on 05/30/2013 2:44:22 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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4 posted on 05/30/2013 2:45:07 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: NoLibZone
Higher Premiums for Fatness

These higher premiums will be used to offset the cost of the food stamps that are making these people fat to begin with.

IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT FATNESS, THEN STOP GIVING FOOD STAMPS TO FAT PEOPLE!!!


5 posted on 05/30/2013 2:47:28 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: NoLibZone
So people with undesirable traits will be forced to participate in "wellness programs" or face much higher insurance rates. And I'll just assume those wellness programs are paid for by the insurance we all pay.

It's really none of the government's damn business to identify and punish smokers, overweight people, whomever else they deside is an "undesirable". Doesn't this mean that if one has Obamacare, the feds get to check everyone for obesity, smorking, or whatever else they choose to demonize people for?

Anyone who doesn't pay to stay out of Obamacare becomes a government slave.

6 posted on 05/30/2013 2:50:08 PM PDT by grania
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“....up to 30% for overweight individuals....”

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Does that inlude the many overweight food stamp recipients?


7 posted on 05/30/2013 2:51:06 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: NoLibZone

Modelling the impact of HIV disease on mortality in gay and bisexual men.

CONCLUSION: In a major Canadian centre, life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men. If the same pattern of mortality were to continue, we estimate that nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday. Under even the most liberal assumptions, gay and bisexual men in this urban centre are now experiencing a life expectancy similar to that experienced by all men in Canada in the year 1871.

http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/26/3/657.abstract

Medical Downside of Homosexual Behavior

“Two extensive studies appearing in the October 1999 issue of the American Medical Association’s Archives of General Psychiatry confirm strong link between homosexual sex and suicide, as well as a relationship between homosexuality and emotional and mental problems.”

http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/medical-downside-of-homosexual-behavior

The Negative Health Effects of Homosexuality

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS01B1


8 posted on 05/30/2013 3:00:48 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: NoLibZone

9 posted on 05/30/2013 3:03:11 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Obama is a victim of Affirmative Action)
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To: Jewbacca
s it “fat” or BMI-based?

I’m morbidly obese per BMI but have between 10-13% body fat at any given time. (I am very muscular.)

I am sure it will be BMI, which is a meaningless measurement.

I’m in the same boat. I’m 6’3” and 270lbs. I bench press 495, ride a couple hundred miles per week on my bike and eat no carbs or wheat products. Yet, I’m morbidly obese according to the BMI charts.

10 posted on 05/30/2013 3:11:32 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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High cholesterol can be genetic. That should make for some interesting court cases.


11 posted on 05/30/2013 3:12:29 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: RobertClark

Just hit a 600lb deadlift, which is not exactly world-record territory, but great for an old pilot who used to have to stay below 200lbs because of the ejection seat.

BMI is possibly the dumbest health measurement in the world.

So, of course, ObamaCare will use it.


12 posted on 05/30/2013 3:19:47 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: freeangel

“High cholesterol can be genetic. That should make for some interesting court cases.”

No joke, a varied tax based on heredity.


13 posted on 05/30/2013 3:20:48 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

BMI is, without a doubt, the dumbest health measurement ever dreamed up. It fails to take into consideration most aspects of.....well,...health!?!? A simple 1:1.5 ratio makes more sense. You waist should be no more than 50% of your height.


14 posted on 05/30/2013 3:25:01 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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15 posted on 05/30/2013 3:27:15 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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unless they participate in “wellness programs” provided by HHS.
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Why? I go to the Dr when I am sick, I do not like to go to the Dr.....I don’t want to be in a program. I want to be left the he!! alone.


16 posted on 05/30/2013 3:31:20 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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“The new regulations does allow for discrimination in these areas, including higher premiums for individuals with high blood pressure or high cholesterol.”

Seriously? Considering I have BMI of 23, work out daily, have extremely low blood sugar,triglicerides, and low blood pressure, I also have the cholesterol from hell.

Mine is closing in on 500 after a vegetarian diet and more exercise. I can’t take statins - rhomboydlysis so I have Welchol which is pretty useless.

All said, I have a genetic predisposition to high cholesterol.

The Government is going to impose punitive taxes on me because of my DNA?

Let’s see where this lands in court because I will spoil for a fight.


17 posted on 05/30/2013 3:33:24 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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18 posted on 05/30/2013 3:34:34 PM PDT by narses
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Not 500! Closing in on 300.

Sheesh. Typo.


19 posted on 05/30/2013 3:34:53 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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Good catch. Otherwise you’d need a grease gun to do a blood transfusion!


20 posted on 05/30/2013 3:38:40 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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