Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Wis. appeals court: Voter photo ID constitutional
WQOW Eau Claire ^ | May 30, 2013 9:44 AM CDT | Amie Winters

Posted on 05/30/2013 10:07:04 AM PDT by Sopater

Edited on 05/30/2013 10:14:29 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- A Wisconsin appeals court says a law requiring voters to show photo identification at the polls is constitutional.

Republicans passed a law in 2011 requiring voters to show photo identification, saying the mandate would help fight election fraud. The League of Women Voters filed a lawsuit in Dane County Circuit Court in October 2011 challenging the law. Judge Richard Niess ruled the law was unconstitutional in March 2012, saying it would abridge the right to vote.


(Excerpt) Read more at wqow.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: constitution; electionfraud; elections; photoid; votefraud; voterfraud; voterid
Duh.
1 posted on 05/30/2013 10:07:04 AM PDT by Sopater
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Sopater; Diana in Wisconsin; Ellendra; DonkeyBonker; afraidfortherepublic

YESS!!!


2 posted on 05/30/2013 10:08:32 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sopater

D*mn right it is.

And we don’t need no stinkin’ judge to tell this to us.


3 posted on 05/30/2013 10:09:23 AM PDT by Da Coyote
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knittnmom; Diana in Wisconsin; Ellendra; DonkeyBonker; afraidfortherepublic

What next? Does this lift the injunction for the next election?


4 posted on 05/30/2013 10:14:26 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Sopater
I always wondered why I have to show photo ID to fly on a plane, especially since the "War on Terror" is over now, and yet, there's still a bunch of liberals that claim showing a photo ID to vote is discriminatory.

What do you think would happen if I refused to show my ID at the TSA window, and start screaming about how I'm being discriminated against and denied my right to free travel?

5 posted on 05/30/2013 10:18:13 AM PDT by cincinnati65
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knittnmom; Diana in Wisconsin; Ellendra; DonkeyBonker; afraidfortherepublic
According to Fox News, the injunction still stands...

That injunction still stands, although the state Justice Department has asked the 2nd District Court of Appeals to review the case.
6 posted on 05/30/2013 10:18:35 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Sopater

In my bad-news stupor, I originally read this headline as “unconstitutional.” Tragically, I’m being trained to see bad news. Thank God I was mistaken!


7 posted on 05/30/2013 10:24:05 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cincinnati65
What would happen to you - why you'd be arrested, hand cuffed, charged with a felony, tossed in the slammer (along with Bruno or Edwardo looking for a date to the Prom), finally, told that you have forfeited any "right" to air travel in the future, perhaps even told that if you ever dare to step into an airport throughout the country you would be subject to immediate arrest and incarceration!

If you have a passport, it would probably be confiscated and you'd be told whether or not it would return to you was "under consideration......by the State Department!"

8 posted on 05/30/2013 10:24:14 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

i did the same thing


9 posted on 05/30/2013 10:26:11 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Sopater

The WI legislature also is proposing a few “tweaks” to the law to clean up a couple of small issues in the next few weeks which should help even more.

Charlie Sykes had a local law guy on this morning that after the interview was over has Sykes feeling even better about the ruling.

It should be in effect next year.


10 posted on 05/30/2013 10:26:30 AM PDT by MNlurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Sopater

Had this law been in effect in November, I guarantee you that Thompson would be the senator and the state’s electors would have likely been for Romney.


11 posted on 05/30/2013 10:28:01 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: zerosix

Agreed — however, as we have seen, much more damage can be done to this country via the ballot box, than could ever be done with a single airplance.


12 posted on 05/30/2013 10:29:57 AM PDT by cincinnati65
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: cincinnati65

I have absolutely no idea what an “airplance” is. Maybe I meant “airplane”.


13 posted on 05/30/2013 10:30:40 AM PDT by cincinnati65
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin; afraidfortherepublic

YAY Y’all!


14 posted on 05/30/2013 10:31:29 AM PDT by Black Agnes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: zerosix

Would you possibly also forfeit your 2nd Ammendment rights?


15 posted on 05/30/2013 10:38:22 AM PDT by Rudolphus (Tagline? I don't need no steenkin' tagline.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: MNlurker
The WI legislature also is proposing a few “tweaks” to the law to clean up a couple of small issues in the next few weeks which should help even more.

I hate when I.D. law proponents make even small concessions on their original bill because it makes it appear that even they had some reservations about the effects. They should stand strong on every point. Otherwise, the liberal opposition jumps on these waffles to capitalize on them.

The "exempting poor people" concession is a joke. Who PAYS to vote? NO ONE!!!!!

16 posted on 05/30/2013 10:38:40 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

On of the tweaks in this case specifically answers one of the lawsuits claims that they had no birth certificate due to being born in the south ages ago and therefore can’t get an ID.

Bullshit yes, but what the legislature is doing is allowing for that person to vote while signing an affidavit stating their vote is a lawful one. In any recount these would then be the first votes to be then challenged.

Suddenly there is a paper trail.


17 posted on 05/30/2013 10:42:56 AM PDT by MNlurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Sopater
Judge Richard Niess ruled the law was unconstitutional in March 2012, saying it would abridge the right to vote.

This is true. It does abridge the right of libtard constituencies to vote multiple times, to vote in the names of dead people and to vote in place of people who moved away, didn't show up to vote, etc.

Now that the courts have ruled sham elections to be the law of the land, I should have the right to pay my taxes with sham money from my Monopoly set. Change for a $500 gold note, please!

18 posted on 05/30/2013 10:43:30 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sopater; All

Thank you for referencing that article Sopater. Please bear in mind that my critique about the article below is not being directed at you.

The referenced article is another good example of articles that address Constitution-related issues in a way that are at least inadvertently targeted to low information voters. More specifically. not only is there no clarification of what constitutonal clause(s) that the League of Women voters and Judge Richard Niess claimed that the law violated, but neither do we hear from the Wisconsin Supreme Court why they found the law constitutonal.

Note that states can prohibit otherwise eligible people from voting on the basis of anything not expressly protected by the Constitution. And the Constitution prohibits the states from not allowing people to vote on the bases of race, sex, tax owed and age as evidenced by the 15th, 19th, 24th and 26th Amendments respectively.

In other words, since no amendment or clause in the Constitution says that the states cannot prohibit people from voting if they can’t show a photo ID, then the states are free to prohibit people from voting on that basis.

But the states have to administer photo ID voting laws in a way that such laws don’t discriminate against poor people. This is because, although such laws are still constitutional imo, bleeding heart activist judges can probably get away with declaring such laws unconstitutional.


19 posted on 05/30/2013 10:43:36 AM PDT by Amendment10
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman
It [voter ID -CO] does abridge the right of libtard constituencies to vote multiple times, to vote in the names of dead people and to vote in place of people who moved away, didn't show up to vote, etc.

Naah, it just forces them to buy more fake ID cards.

20 posted on 05/30/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: cincinnati65
Airplance: A portmanteau combining parts of "airplane" and "appliance". Created and first used by cincinnati65 on freerepublic.com. Example: flying toasters.


21 posted on 05/30/2013 10:50:14 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman

South Carolina GOP Rep. Eviscerates Claims That Voter ID Laws Are Racist During Hearing
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3009140/posts


22 posted on 05/30/2013 10:58:42 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Amendment10
The referenced article is another good example of articles that address Constitution-related issues in a way that are at least inadvertently targeted to low information voters.

Excellent points. Not only is it presented in a way that targets low informatin voters, they don't even say what Constitution they are talking about. It's safe to assume that they are discussing the Wisconsin State Constitution, but most people immediately think of the US Constitution when they only hear "costitutional" or "unconstitutional".
23 posted on 05/30/2013 11:00:31 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Mount Athos; fwdude

Me too, at first.


24 posted on 05/30/2013 11:02:34 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Sopater

The Supreme Court of the United States ALREADY ruled Voter ID CONSTITUTIONAL in April of 2008. That didn’t stop Eric Holder from suing every state that tried to implement it before the 2012 election. He should’ve been prosecuted for that, and that alone.


25 posted on 05/30/2013 11:21:30 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TurboZamboni

Is the Photo ID that is required under Obamacare also ‘racist’???


26 posted on 05/30/2013 11:22:32 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Sopater

The league’s attorney, Lester Pines, had no immediate comment.

Another Dane County judge’s decision blocking the requirement in a separate lawsuit still stands. Two federal lawsuits challenging the requirement are pending as well.


27 posted on 05/30/2013 11:23:01 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
SCOTUS' ruling: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24351798/ns/politics/t/supreme-court-upholds-voter-id-law/#.UaeZEUpPHtw
28 posted on 05/30/2013 11:23:57 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Rudolphus
I was merely pointing out what "might" happen if one refused to show a photo ID at the airport.

I don't recall this discussion regarding the 2nd Amendment at all.

I do not ever forfeit my right to self-defense but will recognize the airlines' conditional rule of requiring my photo ID to board their airplane and thoroughly endorse requiring a photo ID to vote as voter fraud is greater than believed to be.

29 posted on 05/30/2013 11:45:54 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: knittnmom; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ..

Importannt decision on Voter Photo ID, although it doesn’t change anything yet.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list. Sorry to be late with the ping, but I was away from my computer all morning.


30 posted on 05/30/2013 11:50:29 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Sopater

No, this does not lift the injunction. This pertains just to the League of Women Voters lawsuit, although it is a welcome decision. There is another injunction in place. Unfortunately, I heard J.B. Vanhollen talking on the radio this AM that the libs can continue to file injunctios. The Legislature has something else in the works.


31 posted on 05/30/2013 11:53:35 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: fwdude
Who PAYS to vote? NO ONE!!!!!

ACORN paid people to vote. It's a long standing Democratic Mafia tradition.

32 posted on 05/30/2013 12:09:29 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Is the Photo ID that is required under Obamacare also ‘racist’???

No it includes both black and white and colored pictures.

33 posted on 05/30/2013 12:12:44 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: American in Israel

Correct. People (demonicrats) are paid TO vote.

I vote in every election. Where’s MY check!!!!


34 posted on 05/30/2013 12:12:53 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: fwdude
I vote in every election. Where’s MY check!!!!

I see you have not been voting Democrat. That is a problem.

35 posted on 05/30/2013 12:42:45 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Mount Athos; fwdude
i did the same thing

Same here. Sad ain't it?

36 posted on 05/30/2013 1:23:20 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

LOL! I’ve posted WI articles thinking they were positive, then they turned out to be negative!

You’re right - since our media is so b@stardized, it’s hard to keep things straight. Good is Bad. Right is Wrong. Up is Down.

All By design, Comrade. ;)


37 posted on 05/30/2013 1:39:21 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: knittnmom

Happy, Happy! Slow and steady wins the race. :)


38 posted on 05/30/2013 1:39:40 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: All


Less Than $2.9k To Go!!
Please Help To Keep The
"Conservative News and Views"
On FR Coming By "Clicking Here"!!

Sponsoring FReepers are contributing
$10 Each time a New Monthly Donor signs up!
Get more bang for your FR buck!
Click Here To Sign Up Now!

39 posted on 05/30/2013 1:40:17 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: All

40 posted on 05/30/2013 1:43:57 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: All

41 posted on 05/30/2013 1:46:10 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Sopater

w00t! FReep this poll (look for it on the right) and slam it outta the park!

http://www.weau.com/

Do you think people should be required to show a photo ID to vote?
Yes No


42 posted on 05/30/2013 1:50:31 PM PDT by Ladysmith (Every time another lib loses its job, an angel gets its wings.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude
But you must pay for an ID at least in some laws.. if you simply make state ID free upon proof of citizenship what is the problem? I mean you government already pays for rent, food, gas, among other things. Do you really have a problem with free ID’s considering the problems it solves? State's could even put in only free state ID’s if you make under a certain amount. Seriously this is one thing converatives should have no problem paying for.
43 posted on 05/30/2013 4:19:26 PM PDT by Almondjoy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Almondjoy
Even paying for an I.D. does NOT rise to the level of a "poll tax." Such a contention is just plain stupid. Everyone needs an I.D. for basic transactions in society.

How do poor people obtain state welfare without an identity? I can't figure this out. If they have the documentation to satisfy the state that they are who they are for welfare purposes, surely they have what is necessary to vote, or get an I.D. to vote. The fees for these are extremely nominal.

44 posted on 05/30/2013 4:55:02 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Doesn’t matter what’s “right” you should get it by now.. it only matters what the judges think.


45 posted on 05/31/2013 5:08:40 PM PDT by Almondjoy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA; cincinnati65

I flew in one of those to Chicago O’Hare once. Almost got hit on the tarmac by a catering truck . . .


46 posted on 06/03/2013 7:27:26 PM PDT by BraveMan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson