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To: reaganaut

My former son in law to my eldest daughter came out of the closet after hiding his homosexual behavior for many years. He has been excommunicated and has lost his membership in the LDS church.
I know you all feel you have firsthand knowledge, but as an active member and church employee I have firsthand knowledge that no person who exhibits same sex behavior can hold membership in this church. It is not in line with Jesus Christ’s teachings and it is plainly written in the bible.
All information posted here to the contrary is an intentional lie, a misconception, or a misrepresentation. Look it up in the church handbook available online at lds.org. Homosexuals cannot hold membership in the church and this as with all Christ’s teaching will not change.


52 posted on 05/25/2013 10:14:37 PM PDT by WilliamRobert (God Bless Texas)
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To: WilliamRobert

Re your PM accusing me of lying...Prove the lies. I can back it up. I know exactly what I am talking about and I can source it. I can give you plenty of examples of abuse in the LDS church, I can give you a link to the homosexual called to be assistant to the SP.

I was LDS and I now counsel those who leave, every single day I hear more horror stories, even by those who choose to stay for fear of shunning, of abuse in the LDS church.

Your church lies to its members and to the public at large. Take them to task.

I do have firsthand knowledge. They don’t excommunicate like they used to, in part because of the hemorrhage of membership thanks to the interwebs.

Here is the link, this guy wasn’t ex’d like you say he would be. You don’t really know what your church is doing. AFA it not changing, they said that about blacks and the priesthood and polygamy (want quotes?) they caved on that as well.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52486958-78/mayne-gay-lds-ward.html.csp


53 posted on 05/25/2013 10:46:13 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: WilliamRobert

Please explain then, since you think you know everything about the Morg, why my own stake covered up for a rapist and threatened the women who wanted to press charges?


54 posted on 05/25/2013 10:48:16 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: WilliamRobert

Game.Set.Match.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/child-abuse-cover-up-costs-mormon-church-3-million-71939217.html

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/joannabrooks/6534/boy_scout__perversion_files__raise_questions_about_abuse_in_mormon_contexts

http://www.standard.net/stories/2012/12/12/man-sues-lds-church-boy-scouts-over-sex-abuse

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=23366547

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56138958-78/duran-church-girl-document.html.csp

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/55497044-78/bothell-child-church-according.html.csp

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56185782-78/cordero-child-church-abuse.html.csp

http://ldssexchildabuse.blogspot.com/

http://www.standard.net/stories/2012/12/12/man-sues-lds-church-boy-scouts-over-sex-abuse

On gay Mormons and not being ex’d...

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865568211/Stay-with-us-new-LDS-website-urges-gay-Mormons.html?pg=all

God Loveth His Children, on p. 13 says

“No one is, or ever could be, excluded from the circle of God’s love or the extended arms of His Church, for we are all His beloved sons and daughters. As President Hinckley said: “Our hearts reach out to those who struggle with feelings of affinity for the same gender. We remember you before the Lord, we sympathize with you, we regard you as our brothers and sisters” (Ensign, Nov. 1995, 99).”
http://www.ldsresources.info/ten_issues.php#q6

There are more but you get the idea.


55 posted on 05/25/2013 10:59:02 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: WilliamRobert
It is not in line with Jesus Christ’s teachings and it is plainly written in the bible.

Sounds like MORMONism all right!

76 posted on 05/26/2013 4:47:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: WilliamRobert

I am not happy with what has happened but life will go on and The LDS Church will continue to grow and thrive - not so sure about the BSA. Unfortunately, many Scout leaders and parents will bow out. It is very sad but I love our Church and will continue to be active - more committed than ever to do my part in overcoming and enduring.


84 posted on 05/26/2013 8:20:39 AM PDT by District13 (I miss my country!)
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To: WilliamRobert; reaganaut; Elsie

I know you all feel you have firsthand knowledge, but as an active member and church employee I have firsthand knowledge that no person who exhibits same sex behavior can hold membership in this church. It is not in line with Jesus Christ’s teachings and it is plainly written in the bible.
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Adultery “is not in line with Jesus Christ’s teachings and it is plainly written in the Bible” not to do it but that doesnt stop the Mormons from practicing adultery as their “first principle” of their religion, and necessary to become a god and to be “atoned”

and from still having it as their tenet in their religious writings..d&c 132

and from refraining to denounce and excommunicate their 2nd “prophet” Brigham Young because he said they would be “damned” if they even ceased to practice that “sex behavior”

BTW The Christian Bible places adultery and homosexuality on the same level.. both are crimes against God and “not in line with Jesus Christ’s teachings”

so whether polygamy or gay marriage...DO NOT DO IT...

and dont teach others to do it either...

IOW nixay on Mormonism and its deviant sex requirements..


111 posted on 05/26/2013 12:20:54 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: WilliamRobert

Homosexuals cannot hold membership in the church
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Maybe only maybe

but we do know that adulterers can...

and they are also elected to the state senate and the legislature in Utah by fellow Mormons who know their sexual deviant living arrangements but give them a big fat pass...

Oh noez...


112 posted on 05/26/2013 12:25:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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