Posted on 05/25/2013 5:46:24 PM PDT by WilliamIII
Now isn't that special?
Pup Tents inside the Pup Tents.
The mormon church has historically bent the knee to cultural change. Blacks used to be the cursed race and were not allowed access to the priesthood. Polygamy was accepted and encouraged. New revelations took care of these embarrassments.
I am not happy with what has happened but life will go on and The LDS Church will continue to grow and thrive - not so sure about the BSA. Unfortunately, many Scout leaders and parents will bow out. It is very sad but I love our Church and will continue to be active - more committed than ever to do my part in overcoming and enduring.
Are you guys/gals forgetting about the LDS Church’s support for Prop 8? We sure took a beating from the gay lobby. And that campaign was successful - in California, no less.
” . . . why my own stake covered up for a rapist and threatened the women who wanted to press charges?”
Okay - that is your opinion; we have our opinions. We are equal. Agree to disagree. Our opinion and experience is every bit as valid and correct as yours.
Which opens the door wide for homosexual adult leaders.
And they are NOT "gay," they are HOMOSEXUAL!
By continuing to call them by their chosen word which implies happiness, peacefulness, gaiety, elegance, finery, cheerfulness, joyousness, pleasantness and vivacity---NONE of which applies to the state of the homosexual perversion partakers---they are helping to advance the homosexual agenda.
Just how long do you think it will be before someone insists on having homosexual Boy Scout leaders so the homosexual boys in the Scouts will have proper leadership? (very soon!)
Now that the homo pushers have gotten this immoral step accepted, they are busy planning on a complete takeover.
The Mormon system is enabling the future molestation of straight (the scouts have to recite a pledge that includes "I will be morally straight" so of course that will have to be removed) boy scouts.
That's appalling, and it is coming exactly because of letting this camel's nose under the tent.
LDS leadership has a lot of money invested in the Boy Scouts.
". . . why my own stake covered up for a rapist and threatened the women who wanted to press charges?"That is stated as a FACT, not an opinion.Okay - that is your opinion
Declaring it an opinion is supporting the cover up.
It’s a standard faith promoting rumor. The LDS don’t even send missionaries to questionable areas or anywhere the government doesn’t allow them formally. Young used the persecution card to keep the Saints together during his blundering of the Handcart tragedy and the early years in Deseret. It is part of their mindset, never mind it has very little to do with reality.
Mormons consider anyone speaking anything negative about them as ‘persecution’. Former Freeper Saundra Duffy once claimed that a LDS missionary was ‘persecuted’ because someone threw a glass of water on her. SMH.
The LDS Church will continue to grow and thrive
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Ummm...even your own leaders (Marlin Jensen) say people are leaving the LDS in droves...check your facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbqf6msLZXM
Even when they cave on gay marriage?
In Palm Springs, the LDS supported rather than fought the gays. The support for Prop 8 came mostly from the Evangelicals and Catholics in a high gay area.
I sourced my claims, it isn’t opinion, it is fact. Your feelings that the Morg is true isn’t based on fact either.
even if it supports Harry Reid for President? lol
And they did cover it up. I found out about it when my boyfriend’s father (the rapists shrink and member of the Stake High Council who helped in the coverup) warned me about the man and to never be alone with him and why he was moved to our ward. He broke patient confidentiality in order to protect me.
Later, I found out that one of my friends was a victim of this man and when she wanted to press charges, her bishop said if she did, SHE would be disfellowshipped.
They NEED a Mormon in the WH, so they can claim the White Horse Prophecy is proof Smith was a prophet. They are losing people right and left - and sadly those who leave and become atheists are treated better than those who leave for traditional Christianity - they need to do something to stem the tide of apostates.
The ministry God has called me to is to help those who leave transition out of Mormonism and even I am shocked at the numbers who are leaving.
If Reid were to run, he would win Utah. I’ll bet money on it.
Capt. McArthur’s second Handcart company had come across the sea together (Elizabeth Durrah was with this group) then they were divided into two handcart companies led by Edmon Ellsworth and Daniel McArthur. According to Daniel McArthur...”they had to travel 300 miles to get to Florence, Nebraska through hot sweltering weather and rain storms not a few. Their hand carts were new and in an awful fix. They moaned and growled, screeched and squealed so that a person could hear them for miles. They had to be patched mornings, noons and nights. The train had 12 yoke of oxen, 4 wagons and 48 cars, 5 beef and 12 cows, flour 55 lbs per head, 1000 lbs of rice, 550 lbs of sugar, 400 lbs dried apples, 125 lbs tea and 200 lbs salt for the company. They traveled continuously except for 5 Sundays and 3 week days. Singing and prayers were attended to every morning and night. From the Bermingham dairy (7) we have a day by day account of their journey:
July 24-we left Florence and traveled 7 miles,
July 25th-traveled 20 miles to Elkhorn River where we found a camp of friendly Indians. The chief was very helpful and took one of the carts and pulled it to camp about 1/4 miles. This was quite an exertion on his part and although he was a tall strong looking man, it made the perspiration run down his face.
July 26th-crossed the Elkhorn River by roughly constructed ferry. The company had to pay $6 for all to pass. Traveled 15 miles without any water until we came to the Platte River where the water was a joyful sight.
July 27th- camped all day on the north bend of the Platte River. Most days we traveled 20 miles pulling and pushing our handcarts and walking along beside them. Food was a bit of bread and a pint of milk morning and evening this was supposed to feed 5 people.
Aug 3rd-Sunday, started at 5 o'clock without any breakfast and had to pull the carts through 6 miles of heavy sand. Some places the wheels were up to the boxes and it was difficult to pull because many were weak from thirst and hunger and the pain of boils that afflicted many in the camp. About noon a thunderstorm came and the rain fell in torrents. In our tents we were standing up to our knees in water and every stitch of clothes they had on was wet as if we were dragged through the river. The rain continued unto 8 pm the following morning.
Aug 16th- This morning an old woman belonging to our company was bitten by a rattlesnake in the leg and before half an hour her leg swelled to four times its thickness. She was administered to by the Elders and we started again, but unfortunately as we were starting another old woman was run over by one of the wagons. The front wheel went over her thighs and the back wheels over her shins and singular to say although the wagon was laden with 32 cwt of flour, not one of her bones was broken. This day we had the most severe day's journey we had since we started and traveled over 20 miles of heavy sand hills or bluffs. Besides having to ford many streams. All seemed to be fully worn out when we got into camp.
Aug 17th-Sunday. In camp all day. Spent the day washing and mending my boots.
Aug 24th-Sunday. Camped all day at Chimney Rock. Spent the day mending clothes, washing, baking and cooking. On the 22nd while on the road traveling we were overtaken by a very heavy thunderstorm which wet us all to the skin, but as soon as it was over we went at it again and made a journey of 7-8 miles before we camped and then we had to lie on the wet grass all night and go to bed supperless there being no firewood to cook, the buffalo chips being wet. We had to ford 20 steams this week.
Aug 28th- After traveling 12 miles through sand, came to Fort Laramie where after crossing the river getting some wet trousers and petticoats we remained all night, Passed many camps of Indians, all peaceable.
Sept 4th Crossed Muddy Creek and traveled 20 miles late in the evening forded the Platte again for the last time. We are always up at daybreak preparing to start at 5 . We meet the wagons at Deer Creek with supplies from the valley. There were 5 wagons, one for each company with 1000 lbs of flour in them.
Sept 5th Very wet today. Could not start it rained so much. Snow four feet deep on the mountains all around us.
Sept 21th traveled at the rate of about 25 miles per day. Two days we traveled 32 miles each. Camped last
Thank you for sharing that. It was rough, the supplies were not enough and more LDS died during the trip than all the ‘persecution’ before. This is a decent book that is well documented on the Handcart Tragedy.
Young could have supplied them better but he didn’t, the ‘most righteous’ went in the early treks and the later ones often had to fend for themselves while Young was living like a king.
http://www.amazon.com/Devils-Gate-Brigham-Handcart-Tragedy/dp/1416539891
Of all those calling and writing to the BSA to protest, how many will **willingly**, on Tuesday, send their children in the compulsory and GODLESS government owned and run K-12 indoctrination centers where the homo agenda and Marxism is woven seamlessly into every day’s activities and nearly all the teachers were trained in godless Marxist colleges of education?
How many will send their children into private schools where the teachers have been trained in godless Marxist colleges of education and Marxism, collectivism, and the homo agenda is woven throughout every day’s activities?
Hm?
God will not save this nation! That is my prediction. Why?
Answer #1: Abortion. Millions can show up to buy a chicken sandwich but can’t figure out a way to legally and peacefully end abortion. Really?
Answer #2: If children do survive the womb. They are sent into schools where they **WILL** learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the godless classroom. And...Their parents put their children at risk of aborting their eternal souls.
I bet God is not happy. I bet he is **especially** displeased with CONSERVATIVES and CHRISTIANS WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!!!!!
Also, of all the Churches in the past 200 years, NO Church has withstood more persecution for its values than mormons!
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Yeah teepee you tell em !!!
No religion has fought off the Christians objecting to their values of adultery in the form of polygamy in America like the Mormons...
Why the poor Mormons had to go underground and practice their deviant sex likestyles in secret just to get statehood...
Its just awful how much the Mormons were maligned just because they liked to have one night stands and extra concubines ...
How dare those mean Christians declare the directives of Joseph Smith err the Mormon gods to have sex with other women to be disgusting and impure...
And Hey Hey Ho Ho d&c 132 never did go !!!
So there...
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