Posted on 05/23/2013 3:20:16 PM PDT by Pyro7480
Edited on 05/23/2013 4:27:29 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
please see BREITBART post to see how the vote was rigged and controlled.... EVIL..
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303 posted on 5/23/2013 7:37:16 PM by lentulusgracchus: “Krav maga’ ..... street fighting invented in the 30’s, to help Jewish kids fight off Hitler Youth and Brown Shirt toughs.”
Thank you for the krav maga reference! I did not know that. One more reason not to mess with G-d’s original covenant people...
Because no one is standing up to stop them.
While you're around the thread, are there any other facets of Left/Progressivism, Marxism-Leninism, and Stalinism that you'd like to point out to us as holding out shining hopes for America? Homonazism? Feminazism?
There are sure to be some sweet chunks in there somewhere.
We have to fight many fronts in the saving of our great country and PC is just one of them, but they all are important and well worth the fight.
IMHO...
I was in scouting, would not recommend it.
Too much like indoctrination.
A few good leaders, some really bad.
Nothing that can’t be taught in homes, families and groups of families, ergo, I’d recommend homeschooling and no organized groups with uniforms.
Little league and Scouting for me were quite a ridiculous waste of time.
They were certainly fun and I had some experiences, and I learned because I intentionally learned in every situation I found myself in, but the time would have been FAR better spent working more seriously and in better directions.
Much better to have outdoor activities that are not so formalized. When the uniforms go on and the trophies and badges come out, the idiot parents come out of the woodwork.
Since I oppose all of those ideologies I won't be able to offer you any shining hopes for any of those notions.
Saying that, there is no reason to exaggerate. The military is not going to implode. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find very many conservatives that are going to run on reopening DADT. It was a damaging decision, but it won't destroy the armed forces.
The homosexual community is now going to recruit 16-17 year old boys to become open members of the scouting organization. I do not want my 12-14 year old grandsons going on campouts with them. Plain and simple. Not worth the risk.
The LDS Church will continue with the socuts within its own congregations until and unless they accept adult leaders who are homosexual. That is what the Church has indicated is its line. The Church teaches that homosexuals can be members of the church as long as they are celebate in these desires. IOW, they can have urges, but if they resist temptation then they can be members in good standing as much as a heterosexual who does not commit fornication or adultery.
While I can understand this, and agree with it when it comes to young people who are serious about trying to overcome their lifestyle and affliction...and that is what it is, an affliction that tempts them to sinful behavior...I also know that there will be people now entering the organization specifically to fill its ranks with these queers who have no intention of "repenting," or overcoming their lifestyle.
I cannot and will not risk that set of circumstances on my own grandkids of I can help it.
The same 60% or so of parents/scouts who say they will leave the Boy Scouts over this ruling, are pretty much the same 60% who have been opposing the organizations' attempts to liquidate billions of dollars in prime real estate and other assets, or trade those assets for less valuable assets. Of course, there is always tons of money under the table for these crooked deals.
Much of the land bequeathed to the Scouts in perpetuity happens to be on waterfront, pristine locations, or in similarly prime locations.
With the principled Scouts, leaders, and parents out of the way, all these assets are like a hassle-free gravy train for the corrupt. The Camp Easton appeal, for one example, is likely to default to the thieves without opposition, now that the Scouts and parents who fought the case up to this point are being marginalized by the gay scout ruling.
I've never understood the adoration of the organization around these parts. I've met too many Eagle Scouts of questionable integrity, read about too many scouting disasters including many deaths.
Briefly discussing this issue with someone, I was told there were gay scouts allowed in Canada and elsewhere already so BSA is a late comer to this position.
1966-67 - Troop 388 Albuquerque New Mexico.
Thanks for the info, but none are close to where I live.
I communicated to the leadership of the BSA that, if they voted affirmatively to support gay's in the BSA, that I'd:
- pull my son from participating in the BSA
- stop participating in the leadership of the BSA
- explain to all others from my den that the organization is no longer safe (we take many fatherless boys on trips to sleep in tents)
The CEO of Earnst and Young championed this from the beginning of his appointment. E&Y used their kick-back money to push this issue over the hump. Those who have worked for any of the "Big 8" (Big 6, Big 4, etc.) know what I'm talking about...
I worked for a Big-6 accounting firm and I know how they capture regulators.
While I think I now understand the LDS position better, and would agree with it as it pertains to non-practicing homosexuals as church members, I would be lying if I did not say that I am extremely disappointed to see the LDS support for this change which will likely have the effect of destroying Scouting.
I think we all recognize that actively practicing homosexuals are not going to be joining an LDS-sponsored Scout troop. Therefore, this national decision won't directly affect the LDS on your local level.
I'm afraid what's happened here is that the pro-homosexual people have done what they're good at doing, namely, adopting a divide-and-conquer strategy.
The only good thing I see coming out of this is that the Assemblies of God, Southern Baptists, Presbyterian Church in America, and probably Missouri Synod Lutherans will pull out of Scouting and create their own specific denominational youth groups. That could end up being good for everybody. Scouting, right from its beginning with Baden-Powell, advocated a lowest-common denominator form of morality without specific Christian doctrinal content, and that is a fundamental weakness of the organization.
Thanks. I will definitely look into them.
Check out this thread as well on Dr. Harry Reeder of Briarwood PCA, the largest congregation of your denomination, blasting the pro-homosexual Scouting decision:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3023632/posts?page=1
Birmingham area parents and pastors speak out on Boy Scouts (Largest PCA church against gay scouts)
al.com ^ | 5/24/2013 | Kent Faulk
Posted on 5/25/2013 12:33:13 AM by darrellmaurina
I think there is a very real possibility that a large migration of PCA-sponsored Scout troops to the Calvinist Cadet Corps could be good for both groups.
The same applies to the Royal Rangers and Royal Ambassadors with regard to Southern Baptists and the Assemblies of God.
The core weakness of Scouting all the way back to Baden-Powell was that it taught moral principles without a specific doctrinal foundation. It took a century, but the chickens came home to roost this week on that weakness.
http://www.standard.net/stories/2013/05/23/lds-church-backs-boy-scout-decision-gays
It’s no secret that I’m not a fan of Mormon doctrine, but your church deserves credit for its role in fighting homosexual marriage in California, much like Roman Catholics deserve credit for fighting abortion back when too many evangelicals were AWOL on the issue.
That is why this decision is tremendously disappointing to me, and likely to a lot of other evangelicals who have historically regarded the Mormons as a group who shared our a high respect for family values even though we obviously have major theological differences.
Something like this happening, especially while a Mormon was serving in Scouting’s top position, is not good PR for the LDS. I very much hope the top leadership of the LDS will realize just how much damage this decision will do to the public image of your church among social conservatives, and find some way to undo the damage.
And no, Jeff, obviously I don’t hold you personally responsible in any way for the LDS decision. Many of us have watched our churches make decisions with which we disagreed.
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