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Team Arpaio: No Hawaii Statute Compels HDOH To List Birthplace On Hawaii Birth Certificates
Commander Mike Zullo ^ | 5-22-13

Posted on 05/22/2013 4:09:58 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

In this riveting interview Mike answers 9+ questions from listeners, viewers, and bloggers who desire more detail in this case.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 05/22/2013 4:09:58 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: butterdezillion; null and void

Fyi


2 posted on 05/22/2013 4:16:45 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Before and shortly after statehood they made rules that helped everyone get certified for citizenship.

I never read when they made the rules more stringent.


3 posted on 05/22/2013 4:35:26 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Addressed in the below radio interview:
http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2013/05/5-22-13-mike-zullo-answers-your.html

1. What is your law enforcement background?

2. What is your authority under Sheriff Joe Arpaio?

3. What is your official title? Why do people call you Lt.?

4. Have you examined the high resolution Long Form handout that the White House distributed to the Associated Press on 4/27/11 - which you can find online as a .jpg file by doing a Google image search? If so, is there something evidential about it that would be helpful to the case and is that why you haven’t mentioned it at all?

5. There is a YouTube video titled “Obama changed his name in Canada?”Has this been looked into by the Cold Case Posse and, if so, how does it fit into the puzzle of evidence compiled so far?

6. Have you seen this evidence that the DNC REMOVED the paragraph referring to Obama’s constitutional eligibility before they signed and submitted his papers to the 50 states? http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14583

7. Dr. Palafox was appointed HDOH Director by Governor Abercrombie. Dr. Palafox served a very short time before resigned apparently due to some medical scandal. Many believe though that Dr. Palafox might have resigned because of the birth certificate issue. The CCP should track Dr. Palafox and find out what he knows.

8. Given the fact that two different heads of the HDOH have verified the existence of the original BC and that it has also been verified that the information on the pdf version of the lfbc is the same as what appears on the original document, can you please tell me exactly what information the pdf version of the lfbc is different than what is one the original document?

9. Mr. Zullo, in your affidavit you claim that Hawaii statutes allow for Hawaii to give a birth certificate to a foreign born child and that the statute does not require that it indicate it was a foreign birth, while this is true, isn’t it also true that all BCs issued in Hawaii require the place of birth to be on them? Given that true statement, isn’t it true that all of Hawaiian BCs issued to foreign born children would indicate that they were not born in Hawaii?


4 posted on 05/22/2013 4:39:24 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

My computer won’t let me hear audio so I haven’t heard what was said, but just going by the title of the thread, there actually is a statute (338-11)which requires that Hawaii’s birth certificates contain at a minimum all the required information on the CDC’s recommended BC’s (which has always included city of birth). That statute has been in effect since 1949, with revisions in 1955, 1959, and 1997. I’m not sure what the revisions were (the 1979 one was probably adding the social security number on the death certificate), but in an article written by Charles Bennett in 1955, he says that the vital records certificates have to contain at least all the information in the CDC’s standard certificate, so that was in effect at least since 1955, if not before.

Here is the text of it (found at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0011.htm ):

§338-11 Form of certificates. The forms of certificates shall include as a minimum the items required by the respective standard certificates as recommended by the Public Health Service, National Center for Health Statistics, subject to approval of and modification by the department of health. In addition, the forms of death certificates shall require the individual’s social security number. The form and use of the certificates shall be subject to sections 338-16 to 338-18. [L 1949, c 327, §15; RL 1955, §57-14; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-11; am L 1997, c 293, §17]

So I’m not sure where Mike is getting this, if the title of the thread reflects what he said. Maybe he’s talking about birth registrations for out-of-state births? I don’t know. People have referred to a birth “registration” being different from filing a birth certificate, but I’m not sure what legal distinction they’re talking about.


5 posted on 05/22/2013 4:52:48 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Zullo won’t reveal if he talked to former Director of Hawaii Health Dr. Palafox. It’s because the information would possible put a criminal case in jeapordy. I bet he has talked with him. Palafox might be the smoking gun.


6 posted on 05/22/2013 5:03:09 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: butterdezillion

He stated basically has a multitude of statutes that would allow for a foreign born individual born outside of the United States yet be represented as being born in Hawaii giving a false place of birth. Stated there is nothing compelling in the statute that forces the state registrar or Dept of Health to list place of birth, especially a outside place of birth. But he said their are ways to manipulate the statute in the system to make it work for the desired results you want. He went on to say that it was a intricate analysis and he wasn’t go into detail about on any radio show. Also he said he was suspect of the person who placed the question to him and that the individual knew the answer to it already.


7 posted on 05/22/2013 5:21:10 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Gosh.....excuse my spelling mistakes. I also meant to say he stated ‘Hawaii has a multitude of statutes’. ‘Their’ should be ‘there’.

“he wasn’t go into detail about on any radio show”.....go should be ‘going’.


8 posted on 05/22/2013 5:24:50 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: butterdezillion

OK, I listened on my laptop so I heard what Mike said. It seems like he’s talking about what the registrar has to list on a printed BC. Not every item that is required on a BC has to be printed out on a COLB, for instance.

Something he didn’t say here but has said elsewhere is that it’s been documented that children born in foreign countries appear in the newspaper birth announcements from that time. And there are anecdotal stories of people coming off a boat or plane and being told they could lie and say that their child was born in HI, which seems must have been the case if the newspaper birth announcements came from the HDOH.


9 posted on 05/22/2013 6:12:01 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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Eah, yer just stoopit. Don’t worry about it.

/S /S /S


10 posted on 05/22/2013 6:12:03 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

I hope they have evidence that the Doctor was in Japan or some other place when Soebarka was born.


11 posted on 05/25/2013 7:36:56 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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