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Carney: White House, Treasury strategized how to tell public
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Posted on 05/21/2013 3:05:22 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Carney: White House, Treasury strategized how to tell public

By Justin Sink - 05/21/13 02:47 PM ET

Officials in the White House discussed how and when the Internal Revenue Service would tell the public that the agency had targeted political groups, White House press secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday.

Carney said that Mark Childress, the White House deputy chief of staff, twice spoke with officials at the Treasury Department about the strategy for revealing conservative targeting.

Childress and the Treasury officials discussed the possibility that Lois Lerner, the IRS official who oversaw the agency's tax-exempt organization, would reveal that an inspector general's investigation had found misconduct in a speech. They also discussed the possibility that then-acting IRS director Steve Miller could receive questions about the IG investigation in congressional testimony.

According to Carney, the officials discussed “what [Miller] would say” if asked about the issue.

The press secretary went on to characterize the discussion “as just part of trying to find out when and under what circumstances this information would be released, made public, and what those findings would be.”

But Carney insisted that the White House had no knowledge of the agency's eventual plan — to plant a question at an ABA conference for Lerner earlier this month.

“It's a nice hypothetical, but that didn't happen,” Carney said.

Carney said that while multiple senior staff were made aware of the findings of the IG report, the decision by the IRS to plant the question and publicly apologize for the targeting came from outside the White House.

He added that he, like President Obama, was unaware of the targeting before news coverage of Lerner's revelation, and that he did not help formulate a press strategy ahead of the news.

“I was not informed,” Carney said, adding that he rejected the “suggestion that I should have known, or that the president should have known earlier so that I could have said something, or done something.”

“All of these questions suggest that somehow the president should have done something in the midst of an independent [investigation],” Carney added.

Carney also said Tuesday he was "confident" that nobody in the White House was aware of the investigation before April 16, the first time the White House acknowledges officials were notified that an IG report was being prepared.

"I am confident that this is when the first notification came, as part of a series of items that were being included in general heads up about pending matters to a member of the White House Counsel's Office," Carney said.

Republicans on Capitol Hill again accused the White House of shifting their story on who knew about the IRS scandal.

On Monday, Carney revealed for the first time that White House Counsel Kathy Ruemmler was originally told that the IRS inspector general was finishing a report about “IRS employees improperly scrutinizing” Tea Party groups. Carney also revealed that Chief of Staff Denis McDonough were informed in April.

“Why are we still learning new information about how the White House was involved in the IRS audit?” tweeted Brendan Buck, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 20130416; aba; childress; clueless; coverup; discrimination; igreport; irs; irsscandal; jaycarney; kathyruemmler; markchildress; playingdumb; politicalpersecution; ruemmler; stevemiller; treasury; uninformed
Jay, a piece of advice, get a lawyer........
1 posted on 05/21/2013 3:05:22 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

I think Obama needs one,too.


2 posted on 05/21/2013 3:10:56 PM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Jay is just the mouthpiece for this odious bunch. Unless he’s called to testify before Congress he has no need for an attorney.


3 posted on 05/21/2013 3:12:29 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

You’re correct.
Jae Carnie is merely the voicebox of ValJ.


4 posted on 05/21/2013 3:13:18 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Sub-Driver

has anyone done a timeline showing what was revealed or not revealed by the press when Obama gave his speech to the Ohio state university graduates? somehow it seems like Obama knew then in order for the words he used to make sense today which means that Carney is still lying.


5 posted on 05/21/2013 3:13:40 PM PDT by glm
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To: Sub-Driver
That's called a conspiracy. Please don't tell me that Obama didn't know. A good combo of a Community Organizer and a Chicago thug.

Notice Jarrett's name isn't anywhere around.

6 posted on 05/21/2013 3:13:54 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

RICO


7 posted on 05/21/2013 3:14:40 PM PDT by glock rocks ("If not us, who? If not now, when?" - Ronald Reagan)
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8 posted on 05/21/2013 3:14:53 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Lurker

I think he attends important meetings. Not sure how many, or if there is a plan to keep him somewhat uninformed, so he doesn’t say more than they want.


9 posted on 05/21/2013 3:21:39 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is the biggest story of the day. Miller said today that the planted question ploy was his idea. Yet, the WH and Treasury were meeting weeks before on how best to spin this scandal. Obama had to know what was going on.


10 posted on 05/21/2013 3:22:16 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Just the idea of a planted question in this circumstance is “conclusive” evidence of a conspiracy.


11 posted on 05/21/2013 3:33:26 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver

Wow.. You need a strategy to tell Americans what you’ve done? Scary.


12 posted on 05/21/2013 3:37:43 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Sub-Driver
when and under what circumstances this information would be released, made public, and what those findings would be.”

When things getting too hot on Benghazi, for instance.

13 posted on 05/21/2013 3:39:11 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Strategized”? No no no. Let’s be correct, Jay. The word is “conspired”.


14 posted on 05/21/2013 3:43:46 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6
thank you...
15 posted on 05/21/2013 3:52:33 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Sacajaweau

I notice Jarret AND Biden are pretty much missing


16 posted on 05/21/2013 4:26:06 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Sub-Driver

The question, Mr. Carney is not when you or your boss learned of the investigation. It is whether you knew of the activity? Notice how they are always parsing the language to say “the IG Report” or “the investigation”? Why won’t someone - other than that very attractive reporter, who actually did ask - ask again about the activity or the policy and not let them dodge with an answer about the report?!?!


17 posted on 05/21/2013 4:26:17 PM PDT by illinifan (The Left doesn't want you to be upwardly mobile. They want you to be angry and disaffected)
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To: Sub-Driver

What was the “hypothetical” question? I don’t get it.


18 posted on 05/21/2013 4:29:18 PM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: Sub-Driver
strategized how to tell public

WHY did they suddenly decide to tell the public???? They knew omeome was fixing to blow the lid off this mess.

19 posted on 05/21/2013 4:35:24 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: Sub-Driver

Here’s what bothers me: Obama spoke to Ohio state university grads on May 6 and it is clear he is warning the country of the tsunami of scandals coming.

He also said he did not know anything until he read about it in the papers.

The problem is that Lois Lerner did not apologize until May 10th which then hit the papers.

I say Obama’s speech indicates he did know before it hit the news.


20 posted on 05/21/2013 4:45:06 PM PDT by glm
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To: Sub-Driver

What Miller would say?!? Hahahahahaha! How long did it take the admin to come up with “Uh, I dunno, no, I dunno, well, I dunno.”


21 posted on 05/21/2013 5:21:33 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: Sub-Driver
STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS!! McDonough is a master at it.

Per wiki; "Strategic communication management could be defined as the systematic planning and realization of information flow, communication, media development and image care in a long-term horizon. It conveys deliberate message(s) through the most suitable media to the designated audience(s) at the appropriate time to contribute to and achieve the desired long-term effect. Communication management is process creation. It has to bring three factors into balance: the message(s), the media channel(s) and the audience(s)."

22 posted on 05/21/2013 7:52:09 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver. [singing] the wheels on the bus go round and round...
23 posted on 05/21/2013 8:16:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Sub-Driver

It took three years to get Nixon... so many lies to uncover - just like with this Administration.


24 posted on 05/21/2013 8:32:34 PM PDT by GOPJ (It's Gotten So Bad for Obama Fox News Changed Its Slogan to "See. I Told You So!"- Leno)
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To: RightFighter

Executive privilege coming in 3....2....1


25 posted on 05/22/2013 1:45:54 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: glock rocks

There is an exclusion in RICO that strictly excludes those who work for the government, from the smallest town municipality to the the federal government.

Or at least I have been told by my own (very prominent and TEA party friendly) counsel.


26 posted on 05/22/2013 1:47:50 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: RightFighter

Officials in the White House discussed how and when the Internal Revenue Service would tell the public that the agency had targeted political groups, White House press secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday.

How about AFTER then election!


27 posted on 05/22/2013 7:00:18 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: Sub-Driver
According to Carney, the officials discussed “what [Miller] would say” if asked about the issue.

Sounds like a conspiracy to coordinate testimony....if not an even greater crime like suborning perjury?

28 posted on 05/22/2013 8:15:54 AM PDT by Rapscallion (In Benghazi they died; Obama, Clinton and Rice lied. God may forgive. I do not.)
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To: Sub-Driver
So now Obastard has developed a "modified limited hang out?
29 posted on 05/22/2013 9:19:59 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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