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North Koreans holding Chinese boat for ransom
WP ^ | May 20,2013 | William Wan

Posted on 05/20/2013 6:32:57 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

North Koreans holding Chinese boat for ransom

By William Wan,

Published: May 20

BEIJING — Armed North Koreans are holding a Chinese fishing boat and its crew for ransom despite the protests of Chinese officials, the boat’s owner said Monday.

The boat’s seizure — which occurred early this month but was revealed by Chinese officials only Sunday night — is the latest dust-up between North Korea and China, which Pyongyang has long relied on to prop up its economy and defend it from international censure efforts by the United States and others.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; fishingboat; nkorea; ransom

1 posted on 05/20/2013 6:32:57 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This should be interesting.


2 posted on 05/20/2013 6:34:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

There was a rumor to this effect, but it seemed unlikely that North Korea would venture to offend their Chinese protectors.

I guess they really are that crazy.


3 posted on 05/20/2013 6:37:03 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!

This has happened before. China let it pass in previous episodes. We’ll see if they respond differently this time around.


4 posted on 05/20/2013 6:37:19 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Jet Jaguar; monkapotamus; AmericanInTokyo; Army Air Corps; SandRat; LUV W; ...

Is Chia Chub going get spanking LOL!


5 posted on 05/20/2013 6:43:36 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump


6 posted on 05/20/2013 6:46:36 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Not too smart of the Norks. They owe their existence to China.


7 posted on 05/20/2013 6:46:58 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Maybe China will cut the Norks food supply off and solve this problem.

I fear that the average everyday North Korean is so brainwashed with evil that they have become evil and there is changing it.

8 posted on 05/20/2013 6:47:00 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: TigerLikesRooster


9 posted on 05/20/2013 7:09:30 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Confucius say “Don’t bite hand that feeds you, grasshopper”


10 posted on 05/20/2013 8:15:54 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: Cicero

A lot of people (including here) like to simplify the world into one gigantic well-coordinated anti-American conspiracy, often spouting nonsense about how everything North Korea does is scripted by China, etc.

This makes it blatantly obvious this is not the case, and has never been true.


11 posted on 05/20/2013 8:29:09 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Those NOrks must be hungry!


12 posted on 05/20/2013 8:37:56 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Strategerist
A lot of people (including here) like to simplify the world into one gigantic well-coordinated anti-American conspiracy, often spouting nonsense about how everything North Korea does is scripted by China, etc.

I'll second that.

13 posted on 05/20/2013 8:56:33 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: Strategerist

China may solve this problem for us. The North got to learn that the East is Red and should bow down to Peking. A war with China? how long could North Korea last? A week? a month? two months?


14 posted on 05/20/2013 9:35:39 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
China will do everything it can to keep NK alive and prevent reunification. They'll put up with occasional craziness.
15 posted on 05/21/2013 5:06:02 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Strategerist

Oh, sure, there are plenty of tensions between North Korea and China. For instance, China has to guard the border pretty carefully, and yet even at that N. Korea has managed to send starving illegals over the border to work in China and send money back home.

Still, China backs North Korea in the crunch, or they wouldn’t have survived this long. From time to time they provoke their Chinese protectors in one way or another, but they had better be careful not to go too far, too openly.

Neither country can afford to look weak.


16 posted on 05/21/2013 8:36:49 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
14 posted on 5/20/2013 11:35:39 PM by Forward the Light Brigade: “China may solve this problem for us. The North got to learn that the East is Red and should bow down to Peking. A war with China? how long could North Korea last? A week? a month? two months?”

The “logical” answer is that China has the resources needed to decapitate the North Korean regime and put somebody else in charge, perhaps one of several members of the Kim dynasty who have fallen out of favor and are living outside North Korea. That would be the time-tested Asian way in which larger empires dealt with subordinate dynastic states, and I think both China and North Korea are well aware of their own histories in that matter.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure logic applies to the Northern “hermit kingdom.” If an attempt to decapitate the North Korean regime failed, and a full-scale invasion were attempted by either China or the United States, geography favors the defenders of the Korean peninsula, not outside invaders.

That's more relevant for the South, where it's reasonable to believe that highly motivated South Korean troops who **DO** understand the consequences of rule by North Korea would continue to fight in the hills and mountains even if they lost contact with central command and control hubs. Also, South Koreans would realistically be able to expect resupply efforts from outside. However, it may also be relevant in the North for troops who sincerely believe the propaganda about how horrible foreigners are.

Bottom line: apart from a bloodless coup, I don't think we can assume that any scenario to get rid of the North Korean state would be a cakewalk. North Korea's leaders are not stupid, they know that if their regime fails they will die, quite likely in a horrible and painful way, and they have strong motives to do whatever it takes to survive.

17 posted on 05/23/2013 4:05:44 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Hey Tiger - how's it going? Saw a joke - thought you might enjoy:

A new international poll finds that the least popular country in the world is Iran. After hearing this, North Korea said, “What do we have to do?” - - Conan

18 posted on 05/27/2013 8:25:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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