Skip to comments.Severe Weather Outbreak, Day 2 (OK TX KS MO MI for starters) - Moore, OK devastation
Posted on 05/20/2013 12:46:11 PM PDT by dirtboy
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another school down worse than the first one. ARE KIDS IN THESE TWO SCHOOLS?
My nurse and I watching on Fox. She finally decided I would not be deterred so she joined me. Prayers up big time.
Parnell (sp) and Foster area, new tornado sighted.
SE of OKC
My heart is breaking. I hope the kids in those schools had good shelter. Horrific damage, seeing the pictures on TWC.
They are showing children on the Weather Channel running to their parents..here is my question, they knew a tornado was coming, how come the school wasn’t evacuated?
that’s what i’m watching, too, weather channel
Horrible damage. If you guys don’t have a motorcycle helment to wear for you and family members during a tornado warning, get them!
live downed power lines,
gas line leaks would cause explosions.
Fallon was talking before about being trapped yesterday on a highway between two tornadoes, That had to be a completely horrifying experience,
This tornado blew up very quickly and right on the edge of the OKC metro area. Not nearly enough time to evacuate.
Evacuated to where?
And the worst conceivable place to be in a tornado is a school bus.
No time. Tornadoes appear and dissipate within minutes. The safest thing in that situation is to shelter in place.
Growing up in the Texas Panhandle, we had tornado drills all the time.
To where? Unless there is some massive storm shelter nearby. There is nowhere to go....it’s horrible.
“how come the school wasnt evacuated?”
I heard they had an hour warning - that isn’t enough time for many parents to get to a school, get the kids and get to underground.
You just can’t evac a school given the warning time available - better to stay in the strongest part of the building than being caught out in the open with debris flying by at lethal speeds.
That said, given the forecast, it might have been good to dismiss and get everyone home at noon.
What other place could they go to that would be safer?
No confirmed visual tornado but really ominous radar signature on a cell heading for the north Tulsa suburbs.
So when does the Obama administration hand out questioneers to conservatives who were effected by these storms to see if they deserve help or not ? In the Obama regime ? does FEMA hand out questioneers to conservative groups to see if they deserve help ? and the liberal groups get a free pass ?
Grew up in Dallas....I remember being in the hallway, sitting against the lockers, hugging knees with head down. And being terrified. Still am. Can’t stand storms!
i think most homes have basements there. wish to hell I did here in Texas.
Now a tornado..
Just north of Tulsa.
SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TULSA OK
357 PM CDT MON MAY 20 2013
NOWATA OK-OSAGE OK-ROGERS OK-TULSA OK-WASHINGTON OK-
357 PM CDT MON MAY 20 2013
...TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 430 PM CDT FOR
WASHINGTON...NORTHERN TULSA...NORTHWESTERN ROGERS...EASTERN OSAGE AND
SOUTHWESTERN NOWATA COUNTIES...
AT 355 PM CDT...A TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR AVANT...MOVING NORTHEAST
AT 45 MPH. THIS IS A LIFE THREATENING SITUATION!
SOME LOCATIONS IN OR NEAR THE PATH OF THIS STORM INCLUDE...
OCHELATA...VERA...RAMONA AND OOLOGAH.
My guess would be yes. Most school districts won't let kids leave during extreme weather.
The thing with tornado outbreaks like this is that you dont know if or exactly when or where they will strike or what exact place they will touch down or in exactly what direction they will go. The entire state of OK is under the gun, where would you evacuate the school to? Evacuating a school probably takes more time and is more dangerous than sheltering. I would think that most schools in that part of the country are a better place to ride out a storm than in a house or trailer home.
Impossible. Schools around here would be closed for most of the spring months.
Ditto that. And this really scary gong that was mounted in the main hallway. They would pound on that to clear the classrooms.
I still hate gongs.
KOTV 6 Tulsa
Sirens going off in Nowata (north of Tulsa)
Skiatook needs to be on alert — rotation, but nothing on the ground that the spotter can see.
woman on weather channel says unless you were out of the area or underground, you would be dead in a storm like this.
holy crap. the devestation looks complete. slabs without even debris on them.
must have been an F5.
That isn't how it works. Tornadoes affect a very small area of a state during most outbreaks. And the kids would have been in just as much danger at home.
ugh....family in Tulsa, Stillwater, and Shawnee.....
Yes there is. Following your policy, in much of the country students would miss 1-2 weeks of school every spring.
If we just never let kids leave their houses and kept them in the basement they'd be even safer.
Also depending on the house, kids are safer in school. A kid from a trailer park is DEFINITELY safer than in school.
Perhaps the one saving grace is that if Moore is a bedroom community, most were not in their homes when it hit.
Imagine if this hit at night when people would be home.
CNN has live helicopter over schools, neighborhoods that are gone.
It’s possible to build a specially reinforced room in a house that will survive everything up to an F4 (F5 is probably doable but much more expensive, but F5s are absurdly rare.)
A lot cheaper to go underground if possible.
It’s going to move just north of the denser Tulsa suburbs - more open area near Vera.
That's the rub I've wrestled with in my own head (glad I don't have to make these calls): do you keep all the kids in one place in the hopes that the school is missed, or send them all home - knowing that being so spread out that there could be several that never return.
Meanwhile, there's a woman on KCTV being extricated from her home with a board or something through her leg.
Most schools and business buildings are reinforced and probably safer than any place other than underground shelters.
Of course, any direct hit by an F4 is going to sustain damage.
“Scope of damage more massive than May 3, 1999”
I don’t want to read the whole thread first...got to know if one hit Moore. My kids live there! Please respond if you are able to. *biting nails*
Looks like another draco wall.
KOTV 6 Tulsa
Possible large tornado rain-wrapped near Skiatook, just north of Tulsa.
Luckily I have never been through a tornado but I just assumed that maybe they had a underground bunker to hide when this was coming