Posted on 05/20/2013 11:22:27 AM PDT by UKrepublican
Ukip is now within touching distance of the Conservatives, with the eurosceptic organisation polling just two per cent behind the governing party.
A Survation poll put the Conservatives on 24%, down five points, Labour on 35%, down one point, the Liberal Democrats on 11%, down one point, and Ukip on 22%, up six points.
Because of the oddities of the first-past-the-post electoral system, the poll would give Labour 377 seats, Tories 205 seats, Lib Dems 39 seats and Ukip one seat if replicated at a general election.
The result is likely to worsen the chaotic debate which has dominated the Conservative party after Ukip hugely over-performed in the local elections earlier this month.
There was also strong evidence of a hardening of the public mood against staying in the EU.
The Survation poll put those wanting to stay on 36%, unchanged, and those wanting to leave at 50%, also unchanged. The percentage of people who did not know how they felt stood at 14%
Cameron is again trying to ram gay marriage down the throats of the public and it has caused a huge rebellion. Coupled with the smearing of Tory activists it is causing the collapse of the Conservative Party.
Let the Republican Party take note: This is what happens to “conservative” parties that aren’t.
“Because of the oddities of the first-past-the-post electoral system, the poll would give Labour 377 seats, Tories 205 seats, Lib Dems 39 seats and Ukip one seat if replicated at a general election.”
That is nuts. ‘Sounds like something commies would engineer. Can you say ‘no democracy’?
Definitely.
People get fed up. Over here, we’re past that tipping point.
It is crazy isn’t it?
Next year is the European elections, and everyone expects UKIP to come first in these, and that is done on a proportional basis so they have more elected as a result.
The year after is the general election. The Tories are in a crisis right now and heading for an even bigger one.
I expect UKIP to do very well, they are on the increase at a remarkable rate.
Even more Brits would openly support UKIP if those Brits could get over the stigma of voting for the “racist, xenophobic, evil” party (as branded by the elites). There’s a threshold of public support that once crossed, however, where people see that others are comfortable enough to overcome that stigma so they too will be comfortable enough to support the party who’s policies make the most sense for native Brits.
Do you understand how it actually works? I mean, how can UKIP get a higher vote percentage than the Liberal Democrats, but get LESS parliamentarians? Is it to do with which regions the votes come from?
What percentage would UKIP need to get to gain a substantial amount of seats?
No different from how our own congressional elections work. The alternative is proportional representation, which has its own problems.
Time to go watch some Nigel Farage videos on Youtube ripping the EU leaders to shreds!
I guess that most of your fellow Brits have finally had a enough?
Nigel Farage is a uniquely gifted communicator.
So was Enoch Powell.
Indeed, but who is his backup if something happens to him? He ought to set up an academy for Gadflies to carry on "just in case".
205 seats to 1. for a 2% poll difference. If they pull ahead would they lose the 1 seat?
I would suspect that if UKIP gained another two or three percentage points, it would turn out that UKIP gets the 200 seats and the Conservatives get one.
I'm confused. Why would Ukip only gain 1 seat if they have 22% support?
because it is split up in hundreds of districts, and they would garner many votes in each district, but never a plurality.
Or the Founding Fathers of the US of A. Winner - if even by one vote - takes all. 49.9+% of the votes go down the drain.
That's just how that particular electoral system works.
How can it makes sense that one party gets a higher share of the vote than another, that they get LESS parliamentarians. I get why Labour and Conservative might have many more parliamentarians despite only being a few percentage points ahead, but why would UKIP get less than the Liberal Democrats when they got a higher vote share?
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