Skip to comments.Mia Love wants another shot at Utah Congressional seat
Posted on 05/19/2013 7:50:10 AM PDT by george76
Saratoga Springs Mayor Mia Love has declared she wants another shot at the congressional seat occupied by Democrat Jim Matheson.
The announcement that she wanted a rematch came during an afternoon speech Saturday to several thousand delegates at the Utah Republican Partys annual organizing convention.
You and I have some unfinished business with Jim Matheson, Love said during her speech, which was met with loud cheers and resounding applause.
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She is one of the best we got.
If you get knocked down, you just need to get right back up.
I hope she runs and wins.
We need people like her running for seats in those Detroit districts. I don’t like playing the race card but its all the Detroit deck has right now.
It is 768 votes that she lost this election by. Personally, if I were her....I’d be crossing the state every six weeks, and making at least two major speeches every month. She needs independent votes.
Course, if the Tea Party folks had been approved for action and actively got more donations....the 2012 election results would have been different. I think by 2014, those Tea Party tax issues will be resolved.
what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.
I’m on board. One of the few campaigns I contributed to last time.
I have to give Fox News credit...they are the first to get these candidates on the air. I first saw Tim Scott on Neil Cavuto.
(not the Progressives ever listen to that advice)
This time....Mia is going to win, big time!!!
Good for her! I like the resilience and she’s starting off better known among conservatives nationwide.
What qualifies her to be the winner?
In 2013 America was still have the One Drop Rule.
I bet they would say Mia Love isn't black enough because she is married to a white guy.
I'd be the ole 1800's Demcorats are smiling in their graves. Still judging people by old racial codes.
I was at the GOP Convention and in my opinion, she gave one of the best speeches there.
Its why I wish we could get Ben Carson to run for one of those Detroit seats too. He’s already a local hero with schools named after him in Detroit.
He may not be perfect but he’s a hell of a step in the right direction for any of those districts.
You do realize that liberal blacks hate black conservatives even worse than they hate white conservatives, don't you? Black conservatives can't get elected in majority black cities, my friend.
Hell, it is my opinion that Clarance Thomas, Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell are literally the smartest men on the face of the earth.
They drive the Liberals up the wall.
(And of course, waiting for all the PDS sufferers to jump on this post)
We need people like Clarance Thomas, Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell and many more to start getting out to the inner cities and start enticing the people off the plantation.
Call it the “Runaway Slave Roadshow”. Get Herman Cain on stage to tell the people that he made 7 or 8 figures last year and not one of them will ever make that on welfare.
I only have one thing to say about that: Where do I send money to help her to it?
That will work too.
Get to their hearts through their wallets.
Not to mention it is the truth!
I’m just not ready to simply write off the current plantation dwellers. In my conversations with my black pastor friend in Detroit I’m hearing that inner city people are losing hope in the plantation and are looking for it elsewhere. They need to find hope within God and within themselves.
That is good for you and us.
Don't take the analogy as in insult cripple, but Detroit and many parts of Michigan are like the Former Eastern Bloc countries.
Formerly Communist to the point that they are dirt poor. Now that the Socialists locusts have moved on, the remaining people have lived under the System the Democrats tout and don't want no more of it!
If we did that in most places the Democrats would never win another national election, ever.
But then that is why they want amnesty so bad :\
If it wasn’t for the Losertarian candidate, she could have won..
If she lost to a Democrat in Utah then I’d say her chances in the rematch are pretty slim. Surely there is a better challenger out there.
Problem is, even if we ran well-funded and impeccably qualified candidates in those districts, we’d be lucky if they received more than a few % higher than a usual, non-descript, non-funded GOP candidate.
I’m reminded of about a decade or so ago, a White man managed to get the Democrat nomination for Mayor of Gary and a Black the GOP nod. The White guy won in a massive landslide. It’s the party label that remains the biggest impediment to a breakthrough.
She only barely lost. 2014 will not be a good Dem year.
Tea partier Dr Rob Steele gave John Dingell a serious fight in 2010 and Steel was a late entry nobody running in a district held by Dingell and his daddy for nearly a century. It was a less than 10 point split between them and Steele had no real GOP backing.
Its also important to note that while well liked, Thaddeus McCotter was quite moderate because they said a conservative could never win that district. Today its held by solid tea party congressman Kerry Bentivolio.
Things are changing considerably in Michigan. The grassroots tea party may well be among the most powerful in the nation with the GOPe being very careful about what they say and do. A coalition of tea partiers and GOP conservatives even put a rock solid conservative on the RNC.
I hope she gets her chance and wins big. I could hardly believe it when the RINO Huntsman family endorsed her opponent. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55032977-90/huntsman-matheson-jon-utah.html.csp
“I hope she runs and wins.”
Me too. Conservatives should learn from her. Never give up as the left are relentless in their pursuit to destroy the country.
I do too! Love it!
This is Utah not New Jersey. Every year is a bad year for Democrats. Not a single county in Utah went Democratic. The worst showing Romney had in the whole state was Summit county, and he won that one by 5 points. Well Summit County wasn't part of the 4th district. The Republican should have won the race by double digits. If they didn't it's because they had a bad candidate.
Yes, but you’re referencing White majority districts. It is exceptionally difficult with Black districts. Even in the New Orleans (LA-2) example, which we did win in 2008, that was not a race that was held on a normal election day. There was a district in GA where a Black Republican lady outspent the Black Dem candidate and still couldn’t pull it off.
Dr. Steele, while he did perform well in Dingell’s district in 2010, the margin was still a wide 17% for Dingell (57%-40%).
With Bentivolio, had he not had an Indian Mohammadan opponent for the full term, he would’ve lost McCotter’s seat (and remember that he did lose for the remainder of McCotter’s term to a White Dem by 2% in that same election). Though, I expect he’ll probably be reelected.
Democrats haven’t performed as badly as you might think for Utah’s Congressional districts. Matheson has been one of the luckiest examples, and he has done so since 2000 despite running under GOP-favored lines. His father had had success as Governor, and won his races as a Dem as both Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan were at the top of the ticket.
Fact is, Mia Love was THE best performing candidate against Matheson in his Congressional career. She lost by 768 votes, which was .3%. Polling data indicated it was going to be close, and it was. Now, there are some other examples as to why she narrowly lost, one being that the Libertarian candidate was on the ballot (who took a key 3%). Others were possibly racial (when she beat a White GOP opponent at a primary convention, he employed race baiting, and I have no doubt some of that seeped over into the general), also that Matheson had support from key RINOs like Huntsman, and that Matheson is a higher-ranking official in the Mormon church than Mayor Love.
In any event, for someone who performed as well as Mayor Love did, it would be her honor to make a second run against Matheson.
Matheson is a hereditary Democrat with a great reputation passed along from his father ... by all appearances he not a loony leftist. I would go so far as to state that if all Rats were even vaguely like Matheson I would not hate Rats. At some point he will need to switch parties. If not, in Utah the stupidity / Marxism of the national Rats will almost undoubtedly take him down.
Mia Love came within a whisker of beating Matheson last year, and she has a better chance than anyone else of beating him next year. And after that, the sky’s the limit—she might replace Orrin Hatch in the Senate after 2018, or maybe run for governor someday.
They lost the 1st District by 47 points, the 2nd District by 29 points and the 3rd District by 53 points. I'm not really sure just how much worse they could have done.
Fact is, Mia Love was THE best performing candidate against Matheson in his Congressional career.
She lost. She lost in a state where Romney beat Obama by almost 50 percentage points. How any Republican could lose in Utah in a presidential election year where the GOP candidate trounced his opponent so overwhelmingly and where every other Republican candidate racked up huge margins is beyond me. The only explanation is she's not the candidate for the job. So find one who is.
This is Utah. I cannot imagine what Obama could do that could possibly make the electorate there hate him more. So off year election isn't an advantage for her. She had every advantage possible and she lost. If she was incapable of beating him last year then what makes you think she'll beat him next year?
I should’ve said that Democrats have won Republican CDs in Utah with some frequency in the past 50 years. However, none have recently been serious candidates with UT Dems focusing their energies to retaining Matheson.
To wit: Democrat Bill Orton won in a landslide in UT-3 in 1990 in what was ostensibly considered THE most Republican-leaning district in the nation. He held it even in 1994. He lost it in 1996 not due to his own actions, but due to the massive unpopularity of Clinton’s deciding to lock up the coal-mining region and make it a national monument, Grand Staircase-Escalante. Even at that, he still barely lost.
Matheson lucked out by taking advantage of a GOP split when the flaky and damaged Republican incumbent lost in the primary. He has managed to do remarkably well being a Democrat, as I cited. Most of the time, he has been seriously targeted. 2012 was his most serious challenge to date, and I already outlined the dynamics of the race.
“How any Republican could lose” demonstrates that Matheson has had personal popularity over the past dozen years. It was the same with Bill Orton. I guarantee if the White Republican that lost to Mayor Love in the primary had won, the outcome would’ve been no different (and probably would’ve lost by a wider margin). Mayor Love is a popular figure, especially at the grassroots. To casually dismiss her as you have is unwarranted, unfair, naive and highly shortsighted.
Same here... we LOVE Mia Love!
She lost in 2012 because some stupid third-party candidate siphoned votes from her, and the incumbent 'RAT (in Utah, no less!) won the election. We have to make sure that doesn't happen in 2014...
And how are you going to do that?
What is it going to take to convince you? This is a state that Romney took by almost 50 points. A state where Republicans out number Democrats in both houses of the legislature by almost 5 to 1 margins. It is a state where every other Congressional candidate won by almost 30 points or more. Paint it any color you want to, there is absolutely no reason why a competent, conservative Republican candidate should not have taken this seat by double digits, especially in a presidential election year in a state where Obama is about as popular as the plague. I’m sorry but having squandered one chance I don’t see the logic in giving the same weak candidate a second shot at failure. Surely there is a better candidate out there?
You name me this magic candidate who can beat Matheson by these double-digits you speak of. You’re employing two-dimensional thinking and pat conclusions applied to an inexact science. How can this happen ? How can a pampered elitist Socialist who drowned a woman in his car and failed to report it for a day, a despicable crime by any logical standards, not only get reelected to the Senate, but remain there for the next 40 years — revered as a statesman ? But this infamous Democrat Senator, in that same 1970 election, saw a Republican win the Governorship ? Logically, how could one or the other win ? It happened.
How could Jim Matheson’s father, Scott, a Democrat, possibly win election as UT Governor in 1976 and 1980 as Ford won with 62% and Reagan with 73% and yet Matheson got 55% in the latter year and would’ve won in 1984 had he chose to run for a 3rd term ? It happened.
By your reckoning, if a candidate ever loses, he or she should slink away, never to be heard from again. I guess Reagan should never have tried again after he lost to Jerry Ford. I mean, he LOST, right ? Dis-MISSED !
Now, I’ll grant you that there are some candidates who are so lousy that they shouldn’t run again. Most of us here are discerning enough and armed with enough facts to be able to figure who those bad candidates are. Some candidates, however, run valiant campaigns and even though they’ve fallen short, they show enough promise that it would be wrong not to heartily back them again. Mia Love is one of those latter examples.
What is it going to take to convince you that elections are a bit more complicated, often illogical, and involve many factors beyond simplistic reasoning ?
Matheson has beat 6 Republicans in 7 elections, they weren’t all “weak”. He unfortunately is strong.
With Romney on the ticket you knew the district would go for him huge but it didn’t matter, those idiots have been happy to split their tickets for Matheson for years.
Can anyone explain that?
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