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They just don't get it!

Why try to reform something that can't be permanently fixed? Why not just abolish the graduated income tax and the IRS? Why not replace the repressive tax code with tariffs and a flat consumption tax? This would soak the rich, encourage savings and investment, greatly reduce repressive government, and give citizens a clear idea of their tax burden. Isn't this what we all claim to want ... even Liberals?

1 posted on 05/18/2013 10:26:50 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

I think we had a number of folks at the IRS participating in criminal activity. I don’t think this is indicative of what the IRS is all about.

What the IRS is all about, is bad enough on it’s own.

Yes the IRS either needs to be abolished, or severely reduced. This only happens with the changing of the way the government collects taxes from citizens.

The crimes the IRS is now recognized for having perpetrated, are terrible, but they are not the standard operating procedure (as far as we know).

We should keep our animosity narrowly focused on this outrageous behavior, and not allow the incident to get pushed aside in a larger effort.

Heads must roll for these acts.

And next the tax code and the IRS need to be slimmed down to a reasonable size.


2 posted on 05/18/2013 10:33:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
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“Why not replace the repressive tax code with tariffs and a flat consumption tax? “

The way they got the income tax passed was as a flat rate. That was the only fair way, they said. Then, the next year they set about making it fairer. Diddling with the tax code is how senators get PAC money. If they don’t have the code to fiddle with then they won’t get the PAC money. That is why the tax code will never be fixed, simplified or changed to a flat rate.


6 posted on 05/18/2013 10:45:03 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Zakeet

Those are the answers in my opinion. I would go just a little further and say a consumption tax should have no exceptions. All exceptions do is provide a devil’s playground for people trying to manipulate other people.

I have no doubt that the simplicity of such a tax would reduce the costs of good and services enough by eliminating administrative overhead to businesses and the net effect would be just about price neutral.

As long as we allow politicians to use tax policy to coerce behavior, the potential abuse of power will always be with us, and it will be abused as sure as the sun rises.


8 posted on 05/18/2013 10:52:25 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Zakeet
Republicans: IRS scandal shows agency Obama's 'rotten at the core,' needs major reform deserves immediate expulsion from office.

There,fixed it!

10 posted on 05/18/2013 11:03:44 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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“IRS scandal shows agency ‘rotten at the core,’ needs major reform”


IRS scandal coupled with the known piling on by FBI, DHS, EPA, Labor dept, and even the FDA shows the government is ‘rotten at the core,’ needs to be shut down and re-booted with new blood. (fixed it.)

Don’t lose track of these other agencies following in the IRS footsteps. As of yesterday all have been found to have been right on the heals of an IRS audit. Only if you are right leaning of course.


11 posted on 05/18/2013 11:03:51 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Zakeet

Reform, No. Elimination, Yes!


14 posted on 05/18/2013 11:06:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Zakeet

Reform?

Eliminate!


15 posted on 05/18/2013 11:10:11 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Zakeet

The IRS isn’t the only corrupt agency. Likely there isn’t an agency in DC that isn’t just as nasty. This is why God does everyone a favor and permits complete overhauls every once in a while.


18 posted on 05/18/2013 11:28:51 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Zakeet

Bring in the Fair Tax

start the drum beat


24 posted on 05/18/2013 11:44:17 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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Reform won’t do it. The agency is a giant welfare organization and practices “affirmative action” on steroids. It takes money from the productive and gives it to indolent slackers who vote democrat.
It is much more than a tax collection agency. It is the enforcer of several laws. It uses KGB tactics.
Reforming something that is corrupt won’t do it.


25 posted on 05/18/2013 11:47:52 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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You don’t get it, you and everyone else who keeps screaming flat tax. NO INCOME TAXES AT ALL is what we need in this country, before the 16th was ratified we got along just fine with out an income tax. We need a national sales tax and tariffs, plus we need to reduce the size of our government. The income tax we have now started as a flat tax “only on the rich” and look what it has become. NO to income taxes of any sort.


26 posted on 05/18/2013 11:52:03 AM PDT by calex59
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27 posted on 05/18/2013 11:57:03 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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On the one side the Republicans will want to trash the
IRS because it is beyond repair. On the other hand we
have the Democrats who believe only a minor tweaking is
needed. These are the same folks who thought that the Abu
Ghraib and Valerie Plame incidents were serious biz
while Fast and Furious and Benghazi were “sideshows”.

In my mind I don’t think there is any aspect of life that
today’s activist Democrats will not attempt to politicize
if they can milk some kind of advantage out of it at
some point and it doesn’t matter if we are talking pri-
vate organizations or government agencies....AARP,
League of Women Voters, EPA, PTA, NEA....it doesn’t
matter. If there is anything remotely political associ-
ated with it then libs want to control it....and they do.

So, whatever we do about the IRS we must remember
if we don’t address that treacherous union affiliated
with the IRS agents then we are just in for another
screwin’ down the road. Add my name to the list of
fed-up Americans who would favor sending those bastards
all to hell.


28 posted on 05/18/2013 12:39:08 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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It’s operated and ran by a stinking union! There is no way it gets reformed unless the union is tossed out!


29 posted on 05/18/2013 1:37:57 PM PDT by vpintheak (We are the chosen few! Be thankful for it!)
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To: Zakeet

Reforming an agency like the IRS is an exercise in colossal futility. If we must keep the income tax make it 9% on every dime of personal income- no deductions, exemptions, or credits. Make the 9% Constitutional in an Amendment. No more need for IRS. The downside is the short term increase in the unemployment rolls as all those IRS folks have to go find jobs. And all those tax attorneys. Etc. Lots of money would come home from offshore.


30 posted on 05/18/2013 2:26:04 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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scandal
31 posted on 05/18/2013 6:57:12 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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