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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is always about cherry picking data.

Most guns used in self defense are NEVER fired.

Japan has a near complete gun ban but yet has a much higher suicide rate than America

Mexico has a near complete gun ban yet has a crime rate much higher than America

You want to get rid of your gun? Go ahead. Your choice. But why do you want to take guns away from everyone else?

Consider a 1998 study in the Journal of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery that found that “every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides.” Pistol owners' fantasy of blowing away home-invading bad guys or street toughs holding up liquor stores is a myth debunked by the data showing that a gun is 22 times more likely to be used in a criminal assault, an accidental death or injury, a suicide attempt or a homicide than it is for self-defense. I harbored this belief for the 20 years I owned a Ruger .357 Magnum with hollow-point bullets designed to shred the body of anyone who dared to break into my home, but when I learned about these statistics, I got rid of the gun.

3 posted on 05/10/2013 6:57:31 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

“but when I learned about these statistics, I got rid of the gun. “

I call “BULL”!

Anybody who would accept such garbage data at face value, likely didn’t have any serious training in the use of a firearm, or lacks the critical thinking skills necessary to process those claims.

I don’t believe the author ever went any further than owning a weapon, sitting on a shelf, or in a safe somewhere.


20 posted on 05/10/2013 7:10:45 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: 2banana

For every gun they get from a bad guy they would take away many thousands from good guys.

So instead a thousands of good guys with guns against one bad, you will have one bad guy with a gun against thousands without guns.


33 posted on 05/10/2013 7:30:49 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: 2banana
Japan has a near complete gun ban but yet has a much higher suicide rate than America

Mexico has a near complete gun ban yet has a crime rate much higher than America

Russia bans handguns for all civilians, and also bans long guns for almost all Russians except licensed hunters. However, Russia's overall per capita rate for murders committed with any and all types of weapons is almost 4 times higher than the overall US rate for murders committed with all types of weapons including guns. The study also found that many other Euro nations with very strict gun control laws have as high or higher per capita murder rates as the US has.

Its not the NRA saying all that, it's in part of a study of murder rates in several Euro nations that was made by two Harvard professors, and Harvard isn't exactly what I would call a pro-gun institution. Actually, in view of Harvard's well known hostility to our 2nd A rights I'm surprised that the results of that study were made public.

58 posted on 05/10/2013 10:14:16 PM PDT by epow (I'm not looking for the undertaker, I'm looking for the Upper Taker)
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To: 2banana

I have to wonder if they really know better themselves. After all, these medicos know you don’t have to vaccinate every single person in a community in order to bring an epidemic to an end. (Quick! How many of you have smallpox vaccinations?)


84 posted on 05/11/2013 10:47:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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