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To: butterdezillion
I acknowledged much of what you assert above. My bottom-line point is I don't think this was an Obama let-them-get-even for killing bin Laden.

I still think it was a poorly executed rescue mission (remember Carter's failed attempt to rescue the hostages?) by a less than stellar field operational commander. Sh*t happens, even with the best of planning and I actually cried the day I heard all those warriors and fellow Shipmates went down.

However, I don't think anything other than some insurgent intell made it happen, and we just can't know everything the bad guys were planning. I just think it was some grand conspiracy with our own Fedgov to kill so many of SEAL Team 6.

Don't have it readily available, but somewhere on this site is a list atrocities by Koranimals since 9/11/01 all over the World. There is also a list of how many of the efforts have been thwarted. Again: We need to be right 100% of the time; they need to be successful 1%.

That's why I say it's time to teach these barbarians a lesson and send them back to the their beloved 7th century. I'm ready to make some examples, starting with Iran.

22 posted on 05/10/2013 10:50:35 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

I just [don’t] think...


24 posted on 05/10/2013 11:01:08 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

Why the cover-up? Why the refusal to investigate and the lies to the parents?

The stuff that happened that night was beyond poor execution. Substitutions were made without the manifest reflecting the changes. Nobody found out who authorized the change or why. There was no radar. They didn’t look for the black box. Bodies were cremated against the wishes of the men and their families and excuses were made for that which are demonstrably false. An imam was allowed to gloat over the dead infidels, and the copies of the service where it happened were not given to the families, which is ALWAYS done.

This wasn’t just a one-night SNAFU. This was a concerted effort over 2 years, to hide and lie about what really happened.

It’s just like Benghazi (and Fast & Furious, for that matter). They are covering up a bunch of stuff and the question needs to be answered: Why?

We’ve got 3 “incidents” where deaths happened, and there has been a big cover-up. Once is an accident, twice is coincidence, but 3 times is deliberate. What the heck is going on with this lawless regime? (And that’s not even getting into Bin Laden’s son Hamza being figuratively high-fived by Michelle Obama in the hospital after he was tackled at the Boston marathon finish line and classified as a “known terrorist”. Nor is it getting into the eligibility issue, where we know that forgery, perjury, and fraud were committed not only by Obama but by LOTS of people within the system. So we’ve got more like FIVE cover-ups by this regime).

And there’s more too, regarding the Bin Laden revenge: the informant who allowed us to get Bin Laden has been thrown under the bus by the Obama regime - first by revealing who it was and then by leaving him to be captured and abused by the Taliban. It was like this regime did everything necessary for the Taliban to get revenge on EVERYBODY involved in that Bin Laden raid. Not just the SEALS. The informant too.

And that wasn’t the only casualty either. Special Ops Speaks pointed out that Obama’s immediate announcement and the information that was disclosed compromised our ability to exploit the intel we acquired and also allowed the enemy to know our methods of gaining intel so that they could circumvent those methods in the future. That is right out in the open for anybody to see. We don’t even have to make a conspiracy out of this; it’s just plain common knowledge.

We had an investigation over who accidentally disclosed that Valerie Plame was a CIA operative. Her husband, Joe Wilson, actually disclosed that publicly and got in no trouble for it. But we ended up with Scooter Libby jailed because of that, which cost no lives and put no operations in jeopardy.

Yet in this case, where the lives of our SEALS and our informants were at stake as well as our ongoing ability to conduct operations - and yet JOE BIDEN gave up operational details that allowed not only the SEALS but the doctor who cooperated with intel necessary to do the Bin Laden raid being targeted by AQ and/or the Taliban. And nothing has been done in response to the VICE PRESIDENT and PRESIDENT leaking the very details necessary to put these people and our counter-terrorism efforts at great risk.

With “friends” like the supposed CINC and his supposed VP, who needs enemies? It is without question that their actions put our guys and our anti-terrorism efforts at risk. Our men died in part because of the KNOWN public statements by these 2 guys. And the people who cooperated with us were deserted regarding the Bin Laden raid, just like Mubarak and Ghadaffi - our greatest allies in the war on terror in the Middle East - were deserted by this regime and replaced with the Muslim Brotherhood which is now releasing known terrorists, arming them, and instituting sharia including the persecution and executions of non-Muslims.

There are WAY too many patterns, and CONSISTENT patterns, by this Obama regime for it all to be explained by either incompetence or accident. WAY too much.


26 posted on 05/10/2013 11:58:42 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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