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Limo Fire Kills Passengers, Closes San Mateo Bridge [San Francisco Bay]
NBC Bay Area ^ | Sunday, May 5, 2013

Posted on 05/05/2013 1:19:30 AM PDT by Lonely Bull

The westbound lanes of the San Mateo-Hayward bridge were closed for several hours Saturday night due to a deadly fire involving a limosine.

The California Highway Patrol said the fire was first reported around 10 p.m. in the third lane of westbound state Highway 92 at the bridge's decline. As many as ten people were inside the limo and as many as five of them died, according to multiple reports

Witnesses at the scene reported people were trapped inside the burning limo. The CHP told NBC Bay Area there were multiple fatalities, but could not confirm a number.

Witnesses told NBC Bay Area the limo was not involved in an accident prior to catching on fire. It was not clear what could have sparked the flames.

This is prom season, so there were fears that the group could be high school students on their way to a dance, but the Hayward Daily Review newspaper spoke to a CHP officer who said the victims were not teenagers. but adult women.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcbayarea.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bridge; california; closes; fire; kills; limo; limousine; passengers; sanmateobridge
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1 posted on 05/05/2013 1:19:30 AM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: Lonely Bull

“the limo was not involved in an accident prior to catching on fire”

Weird, so then why not just exit the car?


2 posted on 05/05/2013 1:32:36 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Lonely Bull

What an awful way to go. Gotta wonder what caused this. My first thought was if maybe any of the women were older and/or had a respiratory condition that required an oxygen tank. A seniors bus caught fire a couple years ago that way.

Either way, RIP to all the victims here. What an awful fate!


3 posted on 05/05/2013 1:33:32 AM PDT by DemforBush (Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!)
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To: DesertRhino

Weird that it happened while the limo was on a bridge too.


4 posted on 05/05/2013 1:55:36 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Lonely Bull

5 posted on 05/05/2013 2:05:05 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Lonely Bull

News reports say the 10 people were all woman believed to all be in their 30’s. The fire started in the rear of the car, the driver immediately pulled over and then the entire rear of the car burst into flames.


6 posted on 05/05/2013 2:12:26 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

More here: http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23117700/bridge-may-5-2013?source=rss


7 posted on 05/05/2013 2:13:41 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Lonely Bull

As unlikely as it may be, the first thing that came to *my* mind was freebasing cocaine using ether rather than ammonia.

Ask Richard Pryor about that. Nevermind, he’s dead.

Looking at the one photo here, well, there is definitely an accelerant involved, and gasoline is usually VERY well contained.


8 posted on 05/05/2013 2:15:58 AM PDT by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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To: Lonely Bull

I don’t understand how the passengers could be trapped inside.


9 posted on 05/05/2013 2:16:55 AM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: VietVet

Child-safety locks on doors can be set so that they can’t be opened from the inside. It a “safety feature”. On my 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo, the lock-slide buttons are on the inside edge of the from passenger and rear doors, but I don’t know about the newer models. Probably electronic by now.


10 posted on 05/05/2013 2:22:54 AM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: VietVet

Look at the Mercury News video. There is only one door on the left side. The right side looks like it is up against the bridge railing.


11 posted on 05/05/2013 2:25:32 AM PDT by Selene
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To: rawhide

12 posted on 05/05/2013 2:28:49 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

Looks like the fire is coming out of the trunk


13 posted on 05/05/2013 2:33:25 AM PDT by Selene
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To: Selene

Right rear door appears open to me.


14 posted on 05/05/2013 2:38:10 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: DesertRhino

Maybe they were like that lady that called 911 because her electric locks didn’t work and she couldn’t get out of the car (didn’t know to pull the locks up manually)


15 posted on 05/05/2013 2:39:09 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: DesertRhino

Why didn’t the limo driver open the back door??


16 posted on 05/05/2013 2:42:26 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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The one time I was in a limo it was because it was cheaper than 3 taxis...There was only one door in the rear, on the passenger side. The rest of the interior was not set up for having any other doors, because it was wrap around seating.

If this was the same setup, and the people panicked, they may have not had the clarity to try to crawl out through the window to the driver’s area. Or it’s possible there wasn’t one anyway....or it was too small.

I’m guessing we’ll see some legislation on emergency exits on limos in CA after this. Probably from Leland “is the camera on?” Lee.


17 posted on 05/05/2013 2:51:34 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: ltc8k6

“Right rear door appears open to me”

Yes it does. The survivors must have gone thru or near the fire to get out.


18 posted on 05/05/2013 2:53:18 AM PDT by Selene
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To: Selene
"There is only one door on the left side. The right side looks like it is up against the bridge railing."

Wow. Wait until Mayor Bloomberg finds out about this.

19 posted on 05/05/2013 2:55:42 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Lonely Bull

As horrible as this is, it proves limos should not have more than seven women in at once...


20 posted on 05/05/2013 3:12:59 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: Don W

Ask Ricky Nelson - nevermind, he’s dead too.


21 posted on 05/05/2013 3:13:56 AM PDT by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: JZoback
As horrible as this is, it proves limos should not have more than seven women in at once...

What about waiting periods and background checks? 

22 posted on 05/05/2013 3:21:18 AM PDT by peyton randolph (FUBO and his wookie beard)
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To: DesertRhino

“Weird, so then why not just exit the car?”

After an aircraft fire in the ‘60’s the FAA tried to determine why so many people died in their seats. The fire was slow to spread and everyone should have simply evacuated the plane. Turns out the synthetic materials, foams and plastics, formed cyanide gas when ignited. One whiff paralyzed the passengers and the simply sat there until they died. I’m fairly certain there are stringent fire safety codes for materials in your car or a plane. But a limo, probably not.


23 posted on 05/05/2013 3:26:39 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Lonely Bull
Ban women from limos. stop the carnage.
24 posted on 05/05/2013 3:28:38 AM PDT by bikerman (Four boxes keep us free: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.)
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To: Lonely Bull

High capacity vehicles are built for one purpose -— to kill as many people as possible!


25 posted on 05/05/2013 3:28:59 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Lonely Bull

yikes!


26 posted on 05/05/2013 3:45:41 AM PDT by jocon307 (yY)
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To: Lonely Bull

yikes!


27 posted on 05/05/2013 3:45:43 AM PDT by jocon307 (yY)
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To: Don W

Could be when the car was stretched, the gas lines were done improperly.


28 posted on 05/05/2013 3:50:11 AM PDT by petercooper
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29 posted on 05/05/2013 3:57:34 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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bad cat maybe...holy lawsuit batman


30 posted on 05/05/2013 3:58:25 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: JZoback

All that aerosolized hair spray and one cigarette, and POOF! Heh.


31 posted on 05/05/2013 3:59:59 AM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Interesting...

I have never heard about that flight/fire.


32 posted on 05/05/2013 4:13:47 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

“I have never heard about that flight/fire.”

I worked for Fairchild Weston, who had 80% of the crash recorder market. I read all the published reports. The thrust of the report is why did this happen? As I recall, the cyanide part was just further explanation as to why so many people died when you’d think they had plenty of time to evacuate.


33 posted on 05/05/2013 4:19:27 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Don W
the first thing that came to *my* mind was freebasing cocaine using ether rather than ammonia

My first thoughts also after seeing the pics. Or something similar.
Appears flames possibly from a moon roof.
Could have been drinking alcohol, cigarette or open flame for some reason. The limo lurches, alcohol spills and ignites.

Some years ago my mother was with a party of women at a luncheon. Something similar happened with a mixed drink and burned a woman badly.

34 posted on 05/05/2013 4:28:33 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: DesertRhino

I’m guessing electric windows and locks.


35 posted on 05/05/2013 4:51:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: carriage_hill

I’ve always hated electric windows and door locks.


36 posted on 05/05/2013 5:02:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Lonely Bull

Apparently — to be successful — an incendiary bomb need not scatter car parts over half a county...


37 posted on 05/05/2013 5:17:00 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: rawhide
News reports say the 10 people were all woman believed to all be in their 30’s.

Nothing to joke about. Maybe these women were out on the town for a bachelorette party? This is very tragic.

38 posted on 05/05/2013 5:22:52 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: cripplecreek

We took a limo once to an event in Austin and yes the driver locked us in for our saftey. Seems a little ironic now.
“But people do get drunk,” he said and try to open the door to get out @ times while moving thus the locked doors.


39 posted on 05/05/2013 5:24:34 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Don W

>>As unlikely as it may be, the first thing that came to *my* mind was freebasing cocaine using ether rather than ammonia.

>>Ask Richard Pryor about that. Nevermind, he’s dead.

Here’s the video clip of him telling the joke on himself about that episode:

http://youtu.be/bjD4PHojNBU

Language warning of course, for those who don’t know Richie Pryor.


40 posted on 05/05/2013 5:30:39 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Conserev1

Maybe doors that automatically unlock with the loss of power would be good.


41 posted on 05/05/2013 5:31:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Our Ford van the doors automaticly lock when drive is engaged.
I hate the damn thing and the rear doors do have to be unlocked for the passengers to be able to exit. The child saftey lock for rear doors has to be disengaged every time the door is opened and closed. I constantly have to exit the vehicle to open the rear passenger doors to allow the passenger to exit. The front driver door will open with pull of handle.


42 posted on 05/05/2013 5:42:20 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Conserev1

I just never thought it was all that much work to crank a window down or pull up a lock.


43 posted on 05/05/2013 5:47:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Don W

That was what I thought immediately as well, but...let’s give it a few days to get sorted out.


44 posted on 05/05/2013 5:48:12 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: GreenHornet

Agreed. We are all about free speech, but it is in bad taste to make light of this.

Sure. They might have been doing all kinds of things, and be front runners for the Darwin Award.

But they might also simply be victims of an unfortunate accident, and they likely have husbands, children, families and friends left behind.

I have fallen prey to this impulse to make a joke because one can, but the Internet makes that too easy.


45 posted on 05/05/2013 5:52:40 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ve got manual child-door safety locks, but all 5 doors and windows are electric. Don’t like ‘em either.


46 posted on 05/05/2013 6:12:59 AM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: carriage_hill

Yea really sucks in the winter when you go thru the drive up and your power window goes out and gets stuck half way up!


47 posted on 05/05/2013 6:19:45 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: wesagain
That cocaine lie was initiated by the insurance company trying to get out of paying Rick's family and the other families as well.

A faulty heater started that fire, Rick had been clean and sober for years when he died.

48 posted on 05/05/2013 6:23:19 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: petercooper

“Could be when the car was stretched, the gas lines were done improperly.”

My guess also. Most cars have the fuel pump in the tank and they produce a fair amount of presure for the injectors. A leak could produce a very combustable mist.


49 posted on 05/05/2013 6:28:26 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: rlmorel
We are all about free speech, but it is in bad taste to make light of this.

It's threads like these that make me see why this country has fallen victim to a third-world commie like Obama. Our side is supposedly the good side yet a significant percentage of those on our side don't deserve a country that's any better than any other hellhole on earth.

50 posted on 05/05/2013 6:30:49 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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