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This isn't a solicitation for bids, but Big Sis is trying to find more ammo again. She needs to get in line at Walmart with everyone else!
1 posted on 05/04/2013 11:34:54 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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and my take, very dangerous to be in on this game. It should be clear to all that government has found an end run around the people, and it is going to take clear advantage for as long as the people are going to allow it. I don’t see much leadership, from the industry. That would be from shooters manufacturers, proponents like NRA or ammo folks. Some say, and that would be from a local ammo manufacturer that the reason for shortages now, are that a major portion of the public has become a buyer now instead of just previous gun owners. Don’t know how true but price and availability or lack of, is sure an issue.


2 posted on 05/04/2013 11:51:28 PM PDT by wita
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No one in their right mind trusts Big Sis.


4 posted on 05/05/2013 12:04:37 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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US ammo makers have chosen their side.

Always remember.


6 posted on 05/05/2013 12:10:33 AM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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More likely it’s what’s called a Request For Information (RFI). They always specify that the request is not an RFQ nor any obligations by the government to issue an order are given.

This is typically supposed to be a one-shot deal to help the government develop their requirements (realistically) in HONEST intention of procuring what they basically want.

However, I’ve dealt with unethical government organizations that think they can jerk vendors around like puppets, often issuing 3,4,5 of these things as they finally get their act together. You can usually spot it when the person or persons don’t know what they are doing by the types of information they want and the level of detail they are looking for.

On this one? It seems that they are asking a lot about the ability to produce, recover, etc.- questions you’d be asking when your requirement is urgent from an operational perspective, e.g., battlefield supply, etc. This seems a wee bit nosy for “training” needs if you ask me.

The government OWNs about 14 Ammunition Plants that are contractor operated. One wonders if the DHS even knows about this or has coordinated with the Army (that runs the contracts operating them). Left hand, meet right hand. They are looking outside that supply line and asking a whole lot of questions with no promises after answering.


9 posted on 05/05/2013 2:38:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Using Big Sis for target practice would eliminate the biggest hazard.


12 posted on 05/05/2013 4:37:51 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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Why do we even have the DHS?


15 posted on 05/05/2013 5:50:53 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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Anyone selling to the DHS is selling to the enemy. After the number of rounds ordered/ purchased is known, Congress needs to force the SA, err, the DHS to sell it back to the American public.
Big Sis is Ernst Rohm transgendered.


19 posted on 05/05/2013 7:00:27 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est.)
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The link’s not working correctly. It does not connect to the quote. Instead it conects to a general form. Please correct the link so we can see what ammo they’re looking for.


20 posted on 05/05/2013 7:06:02 AM PDT by libstripper
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This is frangible bulleted ammunition intended to be fired against hardened steel backstops and/or targets at close range during training. It is designed to reduce ricochets and bullet particle spash back that might injure the students or trainers.

Such ammunition is not available at Wal-Mart or most retail outlets.

22 posted on 05/05/2013 7:20:16 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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Here’s a correct link that shows the types and amounts of ammo being purchased:

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=bfd4278417a546cf45ee194e54fab5b5&_cview=0

That document also describes what “reduced hazard ammunition” is. It’s something that is not environmentally objectionable, as defined by DHS, and, with most ammo types, is frangible.


24 posted on 05/05/2013 7:53:56 AM PDT by libstripper
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