Posted on 05/03/2013 10:38:58 PM PDT by neverdem
I fail to see the connection of Andy with the Democrats.
Andy Jackson seized the reserve bank, sold all its assets and paid off the national debt. The Dems love the bank and would borrow and print money at every chance they had.
That's probably the reason they want to dump him. He was a fiscally responsible power hungry murderous bigot.
I started reading a book on economics a couple of years back. There was a whole section on Karl Marx, how he had studied economics in detail, and had a deeper knowledge of economics than almost anyone in history. I stopped reading at that point.
And they’re bringing in the big guns....
This is sending in the big guns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKtFvCvmrFE#action=share
Andrew Jackson did some admirable things before his Presidency, such as volunteering to fight in the American Revolution as a young teenager and beating the British at the battle of New Orleans, but there is lots to criticize in his Presidency, beyond his Indian policy.
The original Tennessee constitution of 1796 had not barred free black men from voting. The new one adopted while Jackson was President did--but I don't know if he had any influence on that decision at the state level.
The Cherokee Trail of Tears happened under the next President, Martin van Buren (also a Democrat), but it was a consequence of the Jackson policies.
They're stuck with him. Andrew Jackass is the source-name of the RAT's famous mascot.
Personally I think they should call it the Connor-Wallace dinner.
For Bull Connor and George Wallace.
Both Democrats.
Karl Marx had a Ph.D. from a German university and if he had not been a political radical might have had a successful career as a professor at a German university (he was a baptized Jew so I don’t think his Jewish ancestry would have barred him from a career). He was smart—just extremely wrongheaded. Claudius Ptolemaeus was a brilliant scientist—but his Ptolemaic theory of the solar system is completely wrong. Marx is the Ptolemy of modern economic thought.
Agreed.
The obsession of Jackson and his peeps with destroying the Bank was probably a very bad idea, as it turned out.
The USA almost certainly needed a National Bank at the time, and now, for that matter. Which is not to necessarily say Biddle’s bank or the Federal Reserve was or are the banks we need.
When Jackson shut down the Bank, he made a speculative and inflationary bubble and the resultant eventual Panic of 1837 inevitable.
The Biddle family has produced a number of distinguished Americans. A great-great-grandson of Nicholas Biddle of Bank War fame was A. J. Drexel Biddle, Jr. (1897-1961), a U.S. diplomat under FDR and later, also a major general (buried in Arlington National Cemetery). Francis Biddle (1886-1968), Attorney General 1941-1945, was descended from a cousin of Nicholas Biddle. Francis Biddle initially opposed FDR’s internment of Japanese-Americans and Japanese citizens living in the US, but later went along with the policy. He was also one of the judges at the Nuremberg trials.
Allman is just plain wrong, and his book is renowned in Florida for being wrong a LOT of the time.
Jackson had a fort in US territory that had to be supplied by boats that went past the Negro Fort. It was probably established to pick up a fight with the Negro Fort occupants. Here's what happened with the first such convoy.
Soon, a rowboat filled with Negro Fort warriors approached the schooners, waved, then fired several volleys. The Americans returned fire, but they fell short as the Indians withdrew. Two days later, after waiting a week, the U.S. Navy commander of the supply convoy - Jarius Loomis - dispatched four sailors in a rowboat ashore for fresh water and oysters. They carried empty kegs and buckets.
After steering through the mudflats and putting ashore, the men were attacked by 40 Negro Fort defenders who killed two sailors and captured a third, who they later burned alive in hot tar. The fourth sailor hid and was found the next day by a U.S. rescue party. The incident became known as the "Watering Party Massacre".
http://seminolesmoke.org/faqs-negro-fort-bombing_392.html
While Jackson's incursion into Spanish Florida may or may not have been legally justified by these events, it's really difficult to say he attacked innocent farmers just minding their own business.
Couple other distortions in the article, there may be more:
Jackson was not present at Negro Fort. Or probably anywhere nearby. The attack was commanded by a Col. Clinch.
The Negro Fort was indeed destroyed by a "hot shot" that took a lucky (or unlucky) bounce into a powder magazine holding tons of powder left over from the British occupation. It was one of the largest explosions in American history to that point. The slave raiding troops had no incentive to intentionally massacre the blacks, as implied in the article. The blacks were their potential loot.
As usual in real history, as opposed to liberal revisionism, things are more complicated than the evil white American intentionally massacring inoffensive black farmers.
What a farce!
Consider this:
Excerpt from the 1801 Inaugural Address of Thomas Jefferson"Let us, then, with courage and confidence pursue our own Federal and Republican principles, our attachment to union and representative government. Kindly separated by nature and a wide ocean from the exterminating havoc of one quarter of the globe; too high-minded to endure the degradations of the others; possessing a chosen country, with room enough for our descendants to the thousandth and thousandth generation; entertaining a due sense of our equal right to the use of our own faculties, to the acquisitions of our own industry, to honor and confidence from our fellow-citizens, resulting not from birth, but from our actions and their sense of them; enlightened by a benign religion, professed, indeed, and practiced in various forms, yet all of them inculcating honesty, truth, temperance, gratitude, and the love of man; acknowledging and adoring an overruling Providence, which by all its dispensations proves that it delights in the happiness of man here and his greater happiness hereafter—with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities.
"About to enter, fellow-citizens, on the exercise of duties which comprehend everything dear and valuable to you, it is proper you should understand what I deem the essential principles of our Government, and consequently those which ought to shape its Administration. I will compress them within the narrowest compass they will bear, stating the general principle, but not all its limitations. Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political; peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none; the support of the State governments in all their rights, as the most competent administrations for our domestic concerns and the surest bulwarks against antirepublican tendencies; the preservation of the General Government in its whole constitutional vigor, as the sheet anchor of our peace at home and safety abroad; a jealous care of the right of election by the people—a mild and safe corrective of abuses which are lopped by the sword of revolution where peaceable remedies are unprovided; absolute acquiescence in the decisions of the majority, the vital principle of republics, from which is no appeal but to force, the vital principle and immediate parent of despotism; a well disciplined militia, our best reliance in peace and for the first moments of war, till regulars may relieve them; the supremacy of the civil over the military authority; economy in the public expense, that labor may be lightly burthened; the honest payment of our debts and sacred preservation of the public faith; encouragement of agriculture, and of commerce as its handmaid; the diffusion of information and arraignment of all abuses at the bar of the public reason; freedom of religion; freedom of the press, and freedom of person under the protection of the habeas corpus, and trial by juries impartially selected. These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety."
Now, the question is: do current Party leaders subscribe to principles and ideas which will lead us to "retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety"?
That seems to rule out any connection for current Democrats with Jefferson, which, might lead to a consideration of a possible ideological connection with Jackson. Consider this:
By the Founders' formula, "the People's" written Constitution was the anchor of our liberties, binding government to the "People's" limitations on its power.
Current Democrat Party philosophy, in effect, undoes all the monumental work accomplished by the Founders on behalf of liberty and leaves the law afloat and without anchor, relying, as of old, on mere men and women.
From Page xv of "Our Ageless Constitution," here are excerpted words from President Andrew Jackson's Proclamation of December 10, 1832:
"We have received it [the Constitution] as the work of the assembled wisdom of the nation. We have trusted to it as to the sheet anchor of our safety in the stormy times of conflict with a foreign or domestic foe. We have looked to it with sacred awe as the palladium of our liberties, and with all the solemnities of religion have pledged to each other our lives and fortunes here and our hopes of happiness hereafter in its defense and support. Were we mistaken, my countrymen, in attaching this importance to the Constitution . . .? No. We were not mistaken. The letter of this great instrument is free from this radical fault. . . . No, we did not err! . . . The sages . . . have given us a practical and, as they hoped, a permanent* Constitutional compact. . . . The Constitution is still the object of our reverence, the bond of our Union, our defense in danger, the source of our prosperity in peace: it shall descend, as we have received it, uncorrupted by sophistical construction, to our posterity. . . ."
*Underlining added for emphasis
And, it was Thomas Jefferson who used another metaphor with reference to the Constitution when he indicated that "the People" must "bind them (government) by the chains of the Constitution." In another instance, he declared: "It was intended to lace them up straitly within the enumerated powers. . . ."
Perhaps a Wilson-FDR Dinner might be more appropriate!
If you ever get to the Gilcrease Institute and Museum in Tulsa OK, be sure to look for a framed handbill broadside against Andrew Jackson.
It is several columns of fine print with a row of coffins across the top.
I sat down and read it in it’s entirety one day during a visit there..
It is basically an expose of Jackson’s part in the MURDER of US Militia troops who had received their discharge to go home. On their way out of camp they were ordered to stop and do some more work. They refused because they were now discharged.
Jackson ordered them shot as mutineers.
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