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Obama Administration Trying to Grab Guns Through Executive Order
Gun Owners of America ^ | May 2, 2013 | Gun Owners of America Staff

Posted on 05/03/2013 2:40:20 PM PDT by forty_years

ACT NOW! See "ACTION: Go to the Federal Register" Below

...And sure enough, the Obama Administration is trying to unilaterally undo our recent victory in the Senate - and to undo the “damage” that all of us inflicted together.

But first, a little history.

Remember when Senators Pat Toomey, Joe Manchin and Chuck Schumer formed an unholy alliance during the recent gun battle on Capitol Hill? Remember how their amendment would have encouraged your psychiatrist to turn you in to the FBI's gun ban list?

And you remember how we stopped that provision, because over 40 senators found it to be odious and a violation of the Second Amendment?

Well, guess what? Barack Obama has just concluded that "he don't need no stinkin’ Senate."

Instead, Secretary Kathleen "ObamaCare" Sebelius - and her Department of Health and Human Services - has promulgated regulations which would, by executive fiat, waive all federal privacy laws and encourage you doctor to report you to the FBI.

Understand a couple of things: First, the standard which your doctor would use to turn you in is embodied in Clinton-era ATF language and in the anti-gun Veterans Disarmament Act of 2007. Specifically, you doctor would "drop a dime" on you if he suspected you were even a slight "danger to yourself of others" or were "unable to manage your financial affairs."

So if they say you can't balance your checkbook, then you lose your constitutional rights.

But there's another problem: The day these regulations become law, lawyers will be lining up to sue "deep-pocket" psychiatrists for every case where they failed to turn in a patient to NICS - if the patient subsequently engages in a horrific act.

The bottom line? Any psychiatrist who failed to report all of his patients to the NICS system risks losing everything if any of them engages in harmful conduct. Soon the rule of thumb will be: See a shrink; lose your guns.

And the regulations will apply to private, as well as government-employed psychiatrists.

The bad news is that 165,000 military veterans have already lost their gun rights because of the “see a VA shrink, lose your gun rights” precedent from the Clinton-Bush era.

Sadly, what happened to military veterans has now begun in the private sector - especially in places like New York, after they recently passed their misnamed SAFE Act.

According to gun rights reporter, Dan Roberts, firearms are now being confiscated from gun owners because of their mental health information. For example:

“[John Doe] received a letter from the Pistol Permit Department informing him that his license was immediately revoked upon information that he was seeing a therapist for anxiety and had been prescribed an anxiety drug. He was never suicidal, never violent, and has no criminal history.”

So now taking anxiety pills can result in one’s forfeiting their Second Amendment rights in New York!

This is where the gun haters want to push their agenda. And this is one reason why background checks are so dangerous - because they give government bureaucrats the opportunity to deny law-abiding people their constitutionally-protected rights.

But the good news is this: The HHS rulemaking is still at an early stage, and HHS is (no doubt reluctantly) taking the views of the general public.

ACTION: Go to the Federal Register - at http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-04-23/pdf/2013-09602.pdf - and respond to the regs entitled “HIPAA Privacy Rule and the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS).”

Let the HHS know how you feel about waiving all federal privacy laws for people who seek counseling.

Also, be sure to tell your congressmen that you oppose the “see a shrink, lose your guns” regs issued by the HHS. Ask him to issue his own comments as well.

The regs themselves lay out several ways that you may submit your opposition. The comment period ends on June 7, 2013.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0pansification; banglist; democrats; guncontrol; hhs; lockandloadamerica; maybealittleblowup; obama; psychiatrists; secondamendment; yousnoozeyoulose
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To: boatbums
“How often to do you feel depressed, anxious, down or sad?”

How do you answer that? If you say "never" you must be insane, and can't have a gun, because NORMAL people feel those things at times. If you say "rarely or sometimes" then you can't have a gun because you may resort to gun violence when you feel those things.

61 posted on 05/04/2013 4:28:38 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: kelly4c

Friendships do not come up out of nowhere. They must be worked on. You must be a friend to have a friend. You must accept some faults in your friends, because they all have some, just as we all have them.

Remember we all have our small Crosses to bear. Your friends may be looking for someone to talk to also.


62 posted on 05/04/2013 4:30:39 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: struggle
“Do you have a search warrant?”
“No.”
“Ok...bye.”

Devil's advocate

what if the answer is "YES".

63 posted on 05/04/2013 7:24:12 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Eva

I bet that most people who seek professional help are libs anyway.


64 posted on 05/04/2013 8:28:02 AM PDT by matt04
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To: forty_years

The Obama Admin is out for the guns . . . plain and simple. The first step is to identify all the gun owners, and the final step is to confiscate them all. As the old saying goes: if you give an inch, they’ll take a mile. The Republican Party must fight against the gun registration measures in order to protect against gun confiscation.


65 posted on 05/04/2013 9:56:53 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: GingisK
Only Congress can make laws. Obama can’t.

Obama can choose which laws to observer and which he won't. He has a Military to enforce his version and you have a web page.

Notice how the police ignored the law in Boston and the people quietly acquiesced.

Notice the Police that went into a family home and grabbed a baby out of the mother's arms without a warrant.

Police arrested a Vet for legally carrying an Ar because it frightened a moron citizen. examples of police thuggery abound and there is no organized resistance to the tyranny and I have little hope there ever will be.

I fully expect that the Progressive GOPe will further push us into the socialist wet dream that they all share with the progressive democrats.

Sarah should have lipped that dip, to put a little starch into the debate.

66 posted on 05/04/2013 12:12:44 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: forty_years

And this surprises whom?


67 posted on 05/04/2013 1:44:07 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: formosa

Are doctors reporting to NCIS those patients who reply to gun questions with “None of your @#$!!! business! I’m no longer your patient! Outta here!!”?

Real question.


68 posted on 05/04/2013 3:29:14 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Vaquero

>> Devil’s advocate

>>what if the answer is “YES”.

You let them in.


69 posted on 05/04/2013 6:22:24 PM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

>> Devil’s advocate

>>what if the answer is “YES”.

You let them in.

today...probably, YES.

but things have a tipping point. I hope we can fix the crap this criminal in the White Hut is jamming down the country’s throat BEFORE it reaches this tipping point.

70 posted on 05/05/2013 3:51:41 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Venturer

I’ve always been kind of introverted and I know it’s harder for us but the truth is, when I have stepped out of my comfort zone and try to nurture a friendship out of an acuaintance I normally have received a stand-offish demeanor. Mostly from women. I don’t know why because I’m a down to earth, caring and empathetic person. Males are much easier to actually talk to and share with, but since I’m married I cannot actually hang out with them. So they’re friends at work only. But with females you always need to be “on.” Seems like you have to be witty and chatty and trendy and I’m just not good at that stuff. I don’t much like talking on the phone either. Give me a decent person who likes someone for who they are, one you can relax with and be comfortable with moments of silence when they occur. Anyways, I have always felt there is something inherently wrong with me, that I just can’t put my finger on, that makes other people not want to get close.


71 posted on 05/05/2013 10:28:33 PM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: kelly4c

Be yourself. Stop trying too hard.

People will get used to you, You have opinions, express them. If people don’t like your opinions, don’t worry about it. No one likes all of anyone else’s opinions. You will find others who feel the same way you do.

Enjoy the gift of life, it ends too soon.


72 posted on 05/06/2013 3:35:25 AM PDT by Venturer
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